wait wait wait, you are debating on a bike ENGINEERED by david weagle and the other engineers at evil, or a bike that was pulled out of a catalog and completely copied from the ventana el cuervo which is not even close to new technology (been out since at least 05)...I just don't really see your dilemma

 you make it too obvious. i will just have to test ride both of them

 ...also a good idea

 I hear those shims on the evils are a pain in the ass they keep coming loose. But also DHStinkySpot has worked at evil so he knows whats up.

 There are no shims on an Evil.

 Then what happened to Adams evil something was moving around in it because the bolts were loose.

 Doesn't that sound like the rider needs to maintain his bike? Doesn't sound like the bike to me...

 Yessir! I just chipped it as well. It now has an extra 110 hp and 220 lb ft of torque. It looks pretty sick seeing a van do 80 foot burn-outs!

 I'm pleased to hear that! Stoked to have that van in my driveway when you come visit in a month or so. You'll have to be careful... those wheels might get jacked by some of the lawn technicians that visit my neighborhood.