YT has announced its 2019 range of bikes today and it includes a whole heap of tweaks.
Alongside the usual colour and spec updates, the Base level has been introduced as an "entry into the YT world". It's now the cheapest spec on offer for the Tues and Capra and the bikes come with a functional and easy to set up spec on an aluminium chassis. Despite the success of the Black Friday model Capra last year, there are no high spec aluminium models here so those who missed out in November will have to keep waiting.
Interestingly there are also no new updates on the Jeffsy and it's largely registering as out of stock online. Could we be looking at a bigger update or is there something else in the pipeline from YT?
Finally, there are some price rises here, especially in the US due to currency fluctuations, but some spec changes mean that the value of the bikes remains high for the German brand. YT said: "Despite varying purchasing prices (also due to slightly different spec on some models) we managed to keep the € prices steady. If you look in detail the € prices only increased slightly for the Pro Race models and even dropped significantly for the Pro models, while most others stay the same.$ prices changed quite a bit due to exchange rates."
The full release is below.
PRESS RELEASE: YT IndustriesNew year, new bikes, new look2019 brings new specs and bling new colours for the Capra, Tues and Dirt Love. Updated builds and highly adjustable components keep the range interesting and offer a wide variety of bikes from entry-level shred machines to most exclusive premium race rockets. Every model comes in two paint jobs varying from basic colours like black and white to some more vibrant colours like orange, red or deep blue. New to the range is the introduction of the long frame size for the Dirt Love – good news for taller riders who like to play with dirt. To sum it up: there is something here for every riding style and every budget in the new YT bike range 2019.
Capra: the greedy goatThe Capra is endlessly greedy: it’s greedy for the best trails, the most demanding downhills but more than anything, it wants to satisfy everyone’s craving for a potent enduro bike. It is the ideal bike for racking up the miles on the trail, impressing bystanders in the bike park or hunting for seconds in a race. Downhill, this goat runs like a wolf was after it. It delivers just the right combination of trail bike agility and downhill bike stability. Forest loam, steep and rocky descents, or flowy jump trails; this goat will eat anything. The Capra 27 is available in five sizes from S to XXL, and the CAPRA 29 comes in four sizes from M to XXL.
Capra 29 CF Pro Race in Deep Petrol / Silver
The Capra CF Pro Race models stand for uncompromising performance and top-notch specs. With Kashima coated FOX Float Factory suspension, SRAM Code RSC brakes, Renthal carbon cockpit, a wide range cassette from e*thirteen and LG1 r carbon wheels the CF Pro Race models inspire maximum performance. Meanwhile, the Capra CF Pro confidently holds its own line with RockShox suspension, SRAM drivetrain, Eagle cassette, and Code RS brakes. Robust e*thirteen LG1+ wheels and a wide Race Face Turbine R35 handlebar complete the Capra CF Pro build.
Capra 29 CF Pro in Candy Red / White
Capra 29 CF Pro in Magnesium White / Black Magic
Also on the aluminium bikes, customers can choose between Fox or RockShox suspension. The Capra AL Comp comes with a FOX suspension, e*thirteen cassette and SRAM Code RS brakes, while setting up and handling the Capra AL Base is child’s play even for beginners, thanks to components that are particularly easy to use.
Tues: Style meets confidenceLike no other bike, the Tues embodies what YT is all about: Gravity. YT developed it further in close cooperation with the YT Mob and incorporated feedback from the toughest race tracks around the world. The result is a ruthless machine with racing DNA, which combines massive potential for speed with maximum control to satisfy the most demanding of racers. With two World Cup overall titles on its resume, the Tues is bursting with self-confidence. Just how capable it is, YT’s team riders have once again proven at the 2018 edition of Rampage. This is where the Tues takes its freeride attitude and style factor from. Four builds of the Tues 27 are available in five sizes from S to XXL.
Tues CF Pro Race in Deep Petrol / Silver
Tues CF Pro Race in Magnesium White / Black Magic
The Tues 27 CF Pro Race is YT’s downhill flagship sporting Kashima coated FOX Float Factory components. E*thirteen’s cassette, SRAM’s X01 DH 7-speed derailleur and TRP‘s G-Spec DH brakes deliver World Cup vibes while the carbon Renthal cockpit, carbon wheels and cranks from e*thirteen keep the weight down and the reliability high – just as you would expect from a purebred racing machine.
Tues 27 CF Pro in Matte Black / Glossy Black / Silver
On the Tues 27 CF Pro model, the FOX Performance Elite suspension provides adjustable low-speed compression and rebound damping to make sure it can be adapted to any terrain and riding situation. SRAM’s GX DH derailleur, e*thirteen’s premium LG1+ DH crank, and TRP’s Quadiem brakes as well as the lightweight yet robust LG1+ wheels from e*thirteen round off the Tues 27 CF Pro build in style.
Tues AL in Coal Grey / Fallout Yellow
Those who prefer aluminum can choose between the TUES AL and the TUES 27 AL Base. Both bikes come equipped with excellent components to ensure the best entry into the downhill business and to keep experienced riders interested as well. On the TUES AL the FOX 40 Float Performance Elite fork and Fox VAN Performance shock offer high performance and great reliability, while the RockShox suspension and solid components on the TUES 27 AL Base are easy to set up.
Dirt Love: loves dirtIt all started with the Dirt Love. YT’s roots can be found in dirt jumping, which is why a lot of passion and development-work flows into the Dirt Love. It’s YT’s lean, mean, dirt- and street-machine that combines agility, ruggedness, and lightweight. 2019 it still meets all requirements a solid dirt bike needs to meet today. For 2019 the Dirt Love is sporting a rad new paint job and comes in a second, longer frame size option.
Dirt Love in Black / Silver
All components fit perfect for the dirt category. The Pike DJ 26 is the perfect fork for all this progression, light and stiff. The custom-tuned Charger damper shines on any type of jump, and the specific Solo Air spring offers significant end-stroke ramp-up for buttery smooth landings. The lightweight SRAM Level TL brakes are built on the same technology that is used in downhill and provide dependable power and control. The super strong DT Swiss 533D wheels will let you get away with one or two over-rotated tricks and dirty landings.
Further details on the new bike range 2019 can be found on
www.yt-industries.com.
Terrible USA customer service. Once they moved from Reno to Socal things went downhill big time.
Very poor warranty service.
This doesn't look anything like a 'A total overhaul for nearly all YT Industries lines" to me, just a few little spec and color tweaks.
Good comms, all free. Depends where you live.
Everyone can sit here and sh!t on them and say “BUY LBS!!” But the truth is that can be just as bad. A sibling cracked his 2 month old (top end) Transition Patrol and it’s causing issues to fix. Depends on the distributor in each country, always has, always will.
Europe does seem to get better support though.
- During the delays the price dropped by $500 so I asked for the difference since I didn't even have my bike yet - they refunded my $250, fair enough.
- The bearing in the shock linkage came loose, sent that back and got a replacement within 3 weeks.
- The brakes were SRAM guides, so I've obviouslay had to replace each of them (under warranty through SRAM)
- Noticed a soft area in the down tube, sent back and was given a new frame (black this time, yay!) - covered under warranty.
- Destroyed the from DT Swiss XMC 1200 rim when overshooting a jump to flat - crash replacement cost $400 for that.
- Recently broke my chain stay, sent pictures in and they say it was from a crash (maybe it was, I crash a lot, but I don't remember anything significant that would have snapped the CS like that) - that cost another $400 for crash replacement
This was my first carbon fiber bike (and wheels) and it has been pretty disappointing overall - Too many parts breaking and way too expensive to replace due to limited warranties. Customer support with YT has been pretty good overall though - timely responses and reasonable replacement times.
My next bike will be aluminum.
I've seen bikeshops sell old trailbikes to kids that clearly wanted downhillbikes and got talked into replacing a decent fork with a used, broken one intended for freeride. That's just a no-go.
Also I feel sorry that you have to scam people like that because the big players told you so.
Petty much?
I find the YT love humorous.
Good bikes when they work, but I think they need to step up their customer support.
Sending a bike back to the distributor because a bolt is stuck, or a pivot has come loose and not having it for weeks. Any decent shop would have you riding in hours if not a few days if the bearing is out of stock or something.
Trying to get a damaged crank replaced by the distributor instead of just getting a new one. Are they replacing parts for free when you smash them or something? The shop I worked at that sent bikes out due to internet sales, if we somehow created a problem with our build we were contacting a local store and paying your bill to get it fixed(I think I saw this happen 2 times in 5 years). There was no way would want you to be without your bike that you just paid good money for.
I always thought that all these direct to consumer brands would attract people that didn't need the free service and expertise that a good shop provides. It appears there same mix of folk are getting these bikes, it is not a bad thing at all to not have 20 years of bike knowledge in your head. Just seems that without being able to do your own work and you get a direct to consumer bike it would be real smart, to go get a good relationship with your LBS and if they are any good they will take good care of you. That will keep you on the trail instead of waiting for your bike to come back in a box weeks later.
Some people are comfortable trading stocks with Schwab and paying brokerage fees, but I use Robinhood and pay nothing.
Also SoCal pretty much wrecks everything about life in America and has for years.........
The most recent was my new Capra which arrived and had no pressure in the front brake. I called them, they shipped me out a new one, I replaced and sent the old one back. Easy Peasy.
Prior issue on my Tues was sticky lever on Guide brakes. They had me take it to a LBS who replaced under the SRAM warranty, but for whatever reason they said only parts were covered and charged me $78 for labor. YT cut me a check for the $78.
My experience was the complete opposite of yours.
But yea, it was cool they reimbursed me -- and I didn't even have to ask. They just told me to send them the receipt. Took about 2 weeks, but they took care of it.
For 2 brakes that is a good price, there was just no reason to assume you were talking about 2.
2.) Your competitive edge in pricing by being consumer direct has been reduced in the eyes of many buyers, making your brand less of a value when a buyer compares it to only marginally higher priced bike shop brands.
Market forces at work, either fix or be beaten.
Your second point is really the big one IMO. in 2015 the Capra was the best priced bike with the best components available - full stop. Today...5500 USD with some weird random drivetrain stuff and Performance Elite this or that is not gonna cut it when you can get a Santa Cruz for ~1K more and the comfort that comes along wtih buying from a shop.
@nateisgrate:
I’m happy owner of 2018 Jeffsy with no quality or reliability issues. I can’t comment on level of customer service in US/CAN but I experienced quick response here in Europe. Yes, waiting time is over. I just made my order. And yes, I can ride without bottle cage...
It's funny because the higher end Capras are now quite in line with what you'd pay for a bike from a comparable brand on a sales floor. Brands that actually answer emails and warranty bikes. $6K CAD hits a lot of regular MSRPs (which most don't pay anyways...). Can't imagine why I'd ever buy a Capra without the savings normally associated with direct-to-consumer sales.
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Yea I was referring to the Capra. The AL comp now comes with high end Fox suspension.. no it’s not Factory, but I believe it still has all the same adjustments.
For $3,200 it seems like the best value.
How about the e13 dropper? Any good?
What I'd love to see is an xc/trail bike. Something in the 130/140 range.
Looks like my next bike will be an alu Cannondale Habit instead.
"Hey Young Talent, lucky you! We are thrilled to tell you that your bike is available already and can therefore be shipped. Please write to service@yt-industries.com. and give us a short feedback if the advanced delivery date will be suitable to you..."
YEEEEEAH! YT ROCKS!
Welcome to 90% of the MTB industry.
Wonder if the Geo has changed but they've simply not displayed the New Tables yet!!??
As for broken components... taco'd an aluminum e13 wheel on my wife's bike. Made a claim directly with e13 and they had a new wheel on my doorstep free of charge in 5 days. I also cracked the carbon wheel on the 29er and got a replacement free of charge in 5 days. Lost a chainguide and they sent one for free. e13 is awesome and they back their components 100%!!!
I've learned that if anything fails and you can avoid YT customer service, do it. Otherwise deal with the component company directly.
As for the parts you can't avoid YT. Like YT specific bolts, hangers. I've had probably 90% success stories at getting replacements. Some times they send for free. The worst one I came across was they were out of stock for derailleur hangers and I had to wait 2 months to get one. This was the same time they were changing distributors to the soCal location. I now keep spare hangers on hand so I won't be out of a bike if one breaks.
I love my YT bikes and am a proud customer. If you have basic mechanical skills and don't need a bike shop to fix every little thing these are great buys. I do recommend having 2 bikes on hand because if you do run into a situation where you need a YT specific part, you are going to wait a couple of weeks to get it. Better off riding your spare bike during that time rather than waiting bikeless and complaining on pinkbike about how you're screwed by a company that gave you a top spec build for 5k rather than 8-10k like Yeti or SC. On that note I do feel for the people with broken frames as I imagine that is a major bummer. Moral of the story is make sure you have a spare bike if you're riding YT and don't want to be dead in the water if something goes wrong.
The best marketing campaigns is keeping your existing owners/customer happy so they buy again. Companies call it customer support, but it is marketing. Faster resolve issue better rep you get!
It seems to be a trade off with having the 4 inner keys loose enough for the post to extend freely but tight enough they don't allow side to side movement.
Also the ridged disk fitted to the bottom of the post (where the actuator rod passes through) can come loose after a few services, this also makes for a wobbly saddle, threadlock on the 4 tiny torque bolts should stop this happening though.
I think it's a fairly lightweight post, I also have a Brand-X which seems to weigh the twice as much and claims to be service free, not sure what that means when the british mud finds its way inside...
Tues 27 -> ???
Here they show Canadian prices....
I can’t comment to the customer service or reliability, but I think these are nice looking bikes at the very least.
www.mtb-news.de/forum/t/was-bringt-yt-fuer-2019.881880/page-12
There was the Trailer on Youtube, but its not available anymore.
How about frame only options?