Back in 1991, Yeti and Easton teamed up to produce a hardtail frame that was around half the weight of most of its competitors. While many brands were producing Chromoly steel bikes that tipped the scales at 5-6lbs, Yeti was able to make full use of ProTaper tubing to produce a frame that weighed just 3.2lb. This frame was the ARC and, along with its siblings the ARC AS and ARC AS LT, was one of the most successful platforms in early mountain biking, piloted to victory by Juli Furtado, Missy Giove, John Tomac and other legendary names.
35 years after the Yeti brand was first born, Yeti is celebrating the bike's achievements by resurrecting it in a limited edition anniversary hardtail that retains the spirit of the original while updating it to modern standards. Painted in classic Yeti turquoise and yellow and riddled with custom matching parts harkening it back to the iconic race days of the nineties, it’s definitely a fitting tribute but you'll have to be quick to get your hands on one. This is a limited-edition run and only 100 will be produced.
| The ARC defined Yeti back in the day. Our latest version pays homage to the past, but is rooted in the present. The ARC has always been known for pushing the envelope. Our latest version shows how versatile a hardtail can be with the right geometry, materials and a little more travel up front.—Chris Conroy |
The 35th edition bike is now cast in carbon and designed to be run with a 130mm fork. The ARC always had a reputation for the "trickest" builds and while we won't be seeing any Kamikazee crushing 64 tooth chainrings or purple anodised bar ends on this bike, there's still lots of boutique kit dripping off it with a SRAM AXS drivetrain, a custom painted Fox 34 fork and Yeti branded carbon wheelset with turquoise Chris King hubs.
Yeti's only hardtail has geometry numbers including a 67° head angle, a 464mm reach in size large and a seat tube angle of 76°. The Turq carbon construction shaves another 0.5lbs off the weight of the frame so it's now down to just 2.82lbs.
A selection of the anodised bits that come as standard on the bike. It is a 90's throwback afterall
Yes, this is definitely a great looking bike and it will no doubt be at the top of the list for any nostalgic collector but it comes with a price tag to match, $9,900 (£8,999.00 / €10,190.00). The bike is covered by Yeti's no-B.S. lifetime warranty at least. More info on the bike and warranty can be found,
here.
I thought I was going nuts, could've sworn there were some comments missing. That's hilarious!
I thought that’s what downvoting was for?
Commented jokingly that I was sure the word "arc"could be offensive, apparently it was as my comment got deleted, so I guess I was right.
I understand Pinkbike wanting to avoid a comment section filled up with insults and personal attacks, but deleting comments just because they might go against the grain of the day or disturb their business partners just leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
Pinkbike, I know the site is yours, but, just a suggestion, if you are to start deleting comments based on the wind's direction then suppressing the comment section all together could be a better option. Otherwise the ones who give your clicks might start to get salty
Pinkbike, I think you need to clarify where you stand, have you banned the use of that word on your site? Last week you were merely reporting that Yeti had decided to stop using it as a marketing term, not that you were going along with this too? As silly and pedantic as it might seem, this is important, its about the use of words and where the limits of freedom of expression lie, and about the suppression of debate. Maybe you should publish a commenters code of conduct so as to not leave everyone in the dark as to what is and isn't acceptable on your site?
What I do agree with is that there is some inconsistency here or at least treating "offences" against brands more seriously than against people. Under that recent Tahnee video, @softsteel literally called her a slut (albeit in French) and is still here. Maybe they just have't noticed that so might as well tag some mods there and see what happens.
I think they do support free speech. They are also terrified of the woke Twitter mob.
Your prized culture war is what got trump elected in America, and that sucks.
But on your point, of course you're probably *not* going to get suspended for that word, because you're using it in defence of them. The reason why I used 't word' isn't silly at all, my comment got deleted when I did use it earlier and now I want people to know that they are censoring that word, so of course I wouldn't want my comment to get deleted this time around. For clarity, my original, light hearted comment was 'One for the t word!'
If you ask me, I don't think your comment was nearly as moderation-worthy as @timbud's - totally different context, attitude and likely intention. You also didn't repeat it 3 times after being asked not to just to piss the mods off and then cry you got suspended like he did lol. Then again, he's suspended and you're not so maybe they would agree with me.
You probably wouldn't have your comment about censorship deleted either way, even if you used the full word tribe in it. Difference between making the joke and discussing the joke, regardless if you're "defending" or "attacking". I guess I'm trying to say IMHO they're not censoring the word tribe, but rather something they see as belittling the issue that made Yeti stop using it in the first place. As US-specific or even Colorado-specific as that issue may be.
Of course scrap all I said if this comment gets deleted too
The bike is pretty neat tho.
Good read www.city-journal.org/html/platform-or-publisher-15888.html
Russia couldn't find a single person to hire that speaks fluent English? Russian content is all broken English like in a bad Hollywood movie? Wow, they are cartoonishly inept eh.
Speaking of Russian influence, maybe look into where your preferred news outlet sources their articles.
I suppose my point is, unless Pinkbike have stated that the way I used the term is against their rules, is it up to them to police the aftermath of Yeti's decision? To a point, surely they have to let Yeti live with the decision and resulting debate around what they've decided? I could understand if my comment was deleted from Yeti's Insta post or similar, but not on here. Unfortunately there's been a complete dearth of educated debate and acceptance of nuance around the issues brought up since the death of George Floyd, with people from both sides all too eager to pigeon hole and shame anyone who doesn't tick every box on either list of beliefs, which I think will ultimately be counter-productive.
And you're right, bikers (more so than skiers, I do both) and pinkbike/mbtr seem a lot more inclined than most to actually engage. Crazy considering it's a comment section and not an actual forum.
Or maybe the DNC put up the most unlikeable presidential candidate in a generation?
Here is a very biased source of some of the ads Russia bought in 2016. Read them yourself. It omits the anti-Trump ads and anti-Sanders ads, but they ran ads on both sides of each major candidate. Some speculate it was to simply try and sow societal disharmony, others think it was a ham-fisted A/B test, but who knows for sure.
www.nytimes.com/2017/11/01/us/politics/russia-2016-election-facebook.html
Can you define these? Was it literal voter machine highjacking/hacking? Was it literally Russian agents "interfering" with someone driving to the voting booth? Please, some actual examples.
The full extent that we have solid evidence for is facebook ads. Thats it.
From an economics perspective, there is no evidence that ads can magically hypnotize you to dramatically change your opinion on something. At best they influence you at the absolute margins, pushing you over to a view that you were already likely going to hold. Ads mostly make people aware of new product pricing.
These are simply tools of trail oppression to further remind us of the inequity of rider privilege, trail access, protective gear, fitness level, training, skill sets, and discipline. Whether we are being passed by the privileged rider on their top tier build bikes calling "rider" or "Strava" or attempting to pass a privileged rider on such a bike that will not yield because trail etiquette is for the 99%, oppression is the purpose of these halo dirt transportation devices. If we can start a change.org petition demanding that Pinkbike take a stand for the everyday rider against being complicit in the pervasive and persistent trail oppression by the 1% by Pinkbike refusing to feature, promote, advertise or review top build off road trail riding devices that equal or exceed months worth of protest stipends. While many of you will not see the errors of your further enabling trail oppression, you are hereby put on notice that your rider privilege has systemically prevented you from even realizing that to throw steez on a Green flow trail at high speed only makes the every riders among us further oppressed by your steez and obvious shred-signaling intentions. As a member of the every day riders' 1% of the intersectionally trail oppressed, my opinions, analysis and conclusions are without reproach. From my view in the sub-sea level flatland trail ghetto, it is clear that those with elevation diversity privilege are not deserving of their over-biked off road trail oppression two wheeled parking lot shred signaling devices. Please join me in demanding that Pinkbike refuse to further support this trail oppression. Because if we can forgo progression, innovation, meritocracy, and individual choice and responsibility to save the uncomfortable feeling of a single everyday rider or Grom, then the inequity of the sacrifice for limited gains is beyond fault. Everyday riders of the trails unite, you have nothing to lose but the shame and feeling of inadequacy that bonds you.
Triggering for some I'm sure.
It constantly says russia "targeted state election systems" , strongly implying these systems were compromised, but they were not.
It says over and over "with the goals of harming the campaign of Hillary Clinton, boosting the candidacy of Donald Trump" but leaves out the pro Hillary, Anti- Trump, Pro and Anti Sanders ad campaigns.
When its all said and done, all Russia did was buy $200k of facebook ads, and then the email hacks (which I did forget about). The Republican emails didn't have anything juicy in them, but boy did the DNC emails! How dare they expose the truth about how utterly corrupt the DNC, Clinton Foundation, and Obama administration is!
The worst part about all of this is that the Russia election conspiracy is making me defend Donald Trump, a horrible president, fraud, and probably rapist.
EDIT: I don't mean to defend the GOP either, they are just as corrupt. Look at the military budget of the USA and see what companies benefit selling to them.
A foreign power attempting to interfere in elections is a problem, regardless of whether they succeed.
What I find amazing is the fact that everyone is ignoring that an American citizen running for office actually interfered with the process, we all know that was Hilary. Why is everyone ok with that?
*I'm being facetious, people*
Apparently a dentist bought it.
Wanna see if thats banned as well. I have been forced to remove my decals from my vehicle as it offended someone.
I'm pretty progressive, but I wouldn't call myself the most bleeding heart wokeness advocate in the world - especially back then.
But my first reaction was a huge *eye roll*. Using Compton - a ghettoized black neighbourhood, economically depressed, not due to the shut down of a saw mill, but because of systemic racism against generations of black people - as the basis for Squamish's nickname seemed, at best, sophomoric.
Not at all surprised that, in the current climate, people are taking more issue with it.
Must have missed the part where is I said I agree that most of them should come down. I love being called a poor, and a boy from an e biker.
Man, crazy how Fredrick Douglas owned slaves : www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/nyregion/frederick-douglass-statue-rochester.html
Interesting argument.
The DNC is not a government institution. It is not required to hold a democratic election to select its presidential candidate. The super delegates are basically designed to allow the establishment in the party to select their preferred candidate, even against the will of the people.
All that said, Bernie had significantly fewer actual primary votes, no matter how much the DNC was being shady - and I'm a huge Bernie fan. So they were safely voting for the majority candidate.
You can complain about the internal collusion of the DNC all you want, but the most you can call it is morally questionable.
Trump's campaign, on the other hand, appeared to be courting foreign powers for election help. And he was finally caught red handed doing it with the Ukraine scandal.
That's both morally questionable, illegal, and arguably traitorous.
I dont think these two situations are equivalent.
Funny how it's just so hard for some people to understand that given the choice between two awful candidates, people picked the least reprehensible.
These things were not okay.
He sums it up quite well.
As for the word tribe having been used for centuries in various contexts: I know and really don't need it explained. I'm Polish, my ancestors only started uniting their tribes into a nation as recently as around a thousand years ago. The word is fine in my culture. But I also understand North America has its own context and its own skeletons in the closet. I'm 100% fine with people calling their groups 'tribes', but I see no reason for outrage or ridicule if someone else decides not to. Why would that bother me or you at all? Why so much anger at Yeti or Pinkbike? They are both private North American companies, this influences their perspective and that's OK. Yeti claim they made the decision after consulting relevant parties and considering the local, Coloradian (is that a word?) context of the word, so why are a Pole and a Brit on the other side of the world even discussing that? I mean it might be a great way to kill time but in reality the two of us have zero relevance here, except as potential clients (it wouldn't stop me buying a Yeti, come on, let's be serious).
I think where I disagree with a lot of what has been said is when people belittle the argument by saying its a tiny, minuscule change and what's the problem, its on a mtb website or a private companies site etc etc, we have no place to argue against it. As @TreeBeak has just mentioned, its everybody's problem now, these things don't just exist in a Pinkbike/Yeti vacuum. I think I summed up my thoughts on this to @radiohedwig above, but in essence I just think that words are incredibly important. One other thing I've not mentioned is that I think by getting rid of the word from their marketing, and setting a precedent that this word shouldn't be used, they are effectively handing over ownership of that word to the people who have used it in a negative way, instead of fighting back and using it in a positive way.
"So Kyle, you think this new hardtail will get people riled up against dentists, lairy colours or just our pricing?"
"Stan, dude, that's last year's problem, this year we're too woke. On the plus side our survey in OrthodonticsToday showed that our customer base is 58% more woke than the average American."
Well should add something worth deleting?
Here is something still their but been blocked from being used?
worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?CC=GB&NR=2434565&KC=&FT=E&locale=en_EP
Would tribal culture be considered offensive or is the whole idea of being part of a group being er-razed from history?
There is no problem with free speech in our country, per se. Free speech and the first amendment were written at time when we didn't have a medium for discussion. As such, the internet has now become the public square. Private companies can do whatever the hell they want, that's the american way. I think however, it's harmful for productivity of our nation to solve problems.
www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2020/07/22/sierra-club-national-and-asheville-members-denounce-founder-john-muir-racist/5486343002
Martin Luther King Jr would slap around prostitutes, and laughed at the story of a friend raping a woman. Should we cancel him?
As long as the Sierra club still exists and is trying to do good work, unrelated to the founder's racism, that seems fine. The positive parts of his legacy will still live on.
George Washington owned slaves, hell, MLK cheated on his wife. Should we be canceling then as well?
"“There were many things of value about Muir’s writings, many lessons about the interconnectedness of all life on this planet. But his attitudes about race undermine his work,” Harlan said.
“The fact that Muir failed to see the injustice inherent in the forced removals of Native peoples from the lands he was so dedicated to protecting — a violence which took place in his lifetime — disqualifies Muir from being lifted up as a hero of the environmental movement today,” Harlan said.
***“There were people in Muir’s lifetime who spoke out against the genocide and displacement of Native peoples from their lands. He could have joined them.”"***
Also everyone forced the removal of natives, so welcome to 1984 I guess.
Edit: let me ask you: what would you have the Sierra club do now that this information about him is public and well known? What is their best course of action?
I mean, you said it yourself that we shouldn't be viewing people in today's societal norms from the past.
Calling John Muir a racist and canceling him is intellectually lazy and virtue signalling. Sierra club took the easy route. 1 racist view vs what he accomplished for the environment is an absolutely ridiculous cause for cancellation. It's the same conversation of Washington and slaves. Look at the person as a whole and be realistic about the time they were alive.
I'm a bit late to the party, but isn't there a double standard here when you get moderated on here, and yet @mikelevy is f*ck this f*ck that on their podcast?
I just ignore all the whinies while I drool and dream.
I have a Yeti SB130LR and saved my pennies for a long time - I bought it last year and had wanted a Yeti since 1988. Not all Yeti owners are minted.
Ultra high end stuff is closer to the 15% end. Most dealers rely on volume on the low end to pad against small margins on the highend. Also, in my experience, the low end bikes require very little assembly out of the box to get them on the floor, where as some high end bikes aren't even cabled, so the assembly labor can be 3 to 4 hrs, versus around 20min for a typical $500 retail hybrid.
Oh and the yeti is amazing but im not ready to take out a mortgage yet.
Most of us actually ride our bikes (surprise!), so a pretty colored bike with parts made in the same factories as the not pretty bikes only makes sense if they charge something close to the same price.
What we see here is an example of marketing, using a glorified past, to sell consumers something they don't need, won't ride, all for a outrageous price tag.
Clearly this is a dentist bike and clearlyPB is getting paid to help sell it ... what percentage do they get for sales??
I'm not a dentist, though I make a decent wage, so I'll go with door number three, three as in three bikes from Commencal for 10k.
Thanks again for playing and do call again!
Because people buy expensive things to flex, and flexing with a mountain bike on the mountain bike community is about as dumb as you can get.
And I doubt any serious amount of R&D (from an engineering standpoint, not only bikes) went into making a frame that light, they probably just weren't playing it that safe with the carbon layup as every other frame and simultaneously increased their quality control (hopefully)...
And I’m just guessing here, buy I’m thinking maybe a little R&D goes into making a frame that light. A little more than: hey Carl...just leave a few weaves off the BB and head tube.
If they didn’t want to be criticized, maybe they should have just said: we made a hardtail, painted it in traditional cult colors, and hung shiny ornaments...now: BUY LEMMINGS, BUY!!!
Dope bike? sure, Pole, Geometron, Atherton - they're also expensive.
As for this Yeti, It's expensive for expensive sake to attract those who have to have the most expensive kit they can find. It's a hardtail with no new technology to justify the price.
(Similarly £8999 = 9995€)
That's not boutique stuff, it's just expensive stuff from the biggest brands around. Maybe the King hubs can be called boutique, they're well known but still fairly small in the grand scheme. But the color doesn't match, so points off for that even if they are considered boutique.
Maybe I'm just too cynical.
sorry but that info is incorrect. John Tomac was riding for Raleigh in 91. He never raced a yeti arc.
thats not a yeti arc hes riding.
When hardcore hardtail MTB's are becoming more popular YETI had an opportunity to recreate the ARC. That means affordable, aluminum, loop stays, heritage graphics, keep it real simple and you will sell these things all day long.
As someone that as a kid, had a photo of Juliana and Missy shredding on a Yeti on their wall, if they had offered a hardtail frame that truly honored the time when Yeti was the greatest, I would have bought it hands down.
But this? This is just a modern carbon frame with a paint job. Nothing new here.
Dude... You can't do that now, mythical cryptozoological creatures have a right to live without violence.
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Yeti is a marketing company who happens to make bikes.
Yeti however states their frames are DH rated and have a "No BS" warranty. That and the fact that Yeti accused me of lying is over the top and indicative of a culture that doesn't embrace real riders and hence is all about marketing.
Heck there is an instagram page devoted to broken Yetis www.instagram.com/broken_yeti_tribe
Don't buy into the "dream bike" hype, dreams never really come true.
I mean, 68 degree head angles were only ok 7/8 years ago and even XC bikes that came out in the last couple months are 67 degrees or less. Technically a little slacker because of the suspension.
Bummed. Was hoping yeti learned a few things from all the euro hardtail brands and was gonna be offering a kickass hardcore hardtail vs an XC racer.
Fingers crossed they find their way to that one day.
Oh, what it would be like to be rich just for one day...
But I’m also not going to out right judge. Because I too also spend quite a bit in this hobby. If you have the money, might as well drop it in what you love.
My brand of choice is Antidote bikes. Yes I own a dark matter and I also pre ordered and own the carbon jack 29 (yes it does have a carbon fender to protect the shock).
For $10k you can get a lot of bikes. But complaining up a storm will lead you no where. Would I personally buy this bike? No, Yeti never appealed to me. There will always be die hard fans per company.
- Removed bearing reference from the frame
- Weight for the build is 24.8lb!
Yeti don't make 'em too light eh?
Absolutely Ridiculous Cash-price
Austerity-Reintroducing Cycle
Azure Retina Confusion (actually i like the colours. Also, great name for a band)
I believe the frame is made of financial grief and unfulfilled dreams. Presumably for strength v weight purposes.
Anonymous reading cats?
no threaded bb
no interest
same geo as an rsd middlechild..?..which is a lot cheaper!
meh
A complete HT should never be anything over $1,445!
am I too oldschool for thinking that?