The fact that this very soon became a commercial for Scott with it sounding a bit forced (all the praise and product name throwing). Doesn't seem that Brendog to me... And I know it's what they have to do, now more than ever, but yeah, just the fact it seems a bit forced to me that is weird. Plus I connect with more 'genuine' stuff much more than an obviously pushed content.
I was excited when I saw the title though, a pro shredding an XC bike has huge potential. And he does deliver on that part.
What has happened to customising your ride, are people just buying out of the box and riding... how mad would that be!!!
I dont understand people saying he changed the bars and brakes therefore its not XC.
Are people serious, I ride the same bars on all my bikes, same grips, same brakes, same shifter, same pedals. Common contact points are the way to go.
XC tyres... fit tubes dog, they would be fine, XC tyres are like riding balloons tubeless.
I understand the need bike brands want to sell bikes in this time (the best for everything in terms of bike and other sports related)but saying,(and I understand )why nino won what he won because of that bike :-))) ,that’s a big joke (love the tattoo on the back neck of the one OF the best female mtb riders in the history “LIFE IS A JOKE “ one of my favorite phrases),brendog you could say that people could have a blast in that type of bike (except the tires,for some )and still make the “enduro”wannabes wondered if they really need that bike ,cause when I ride my old 26” nomad c (riding a 27,5” Bronson )In some tracks it just doesn’t feel boring ,it’s like I’m going faster and the tracks are more gnarly,and yes I can go faster in the more modern bike,but not a lot,but in some trails 10s faster is 1m boring
To me, the take home message is "Beware of being over-biked." Despite the fact that comfort is premium for my old bones, I am appalled at all of the expensive modern trail bikes that are (well) over 30 lbs. Both my bikes (Ripmo & Fuel) are less than 30 lbs and more capable than I am. Perhaps next bike I'll go XC and build it up a bit burlier.
I agree, I don't see why bike manufacturers are making modern trail bikes so damn heavy. My 2019 Trance Advanced Pro 29 0 weighs just under 26.5lbs with Minions, piggyback shock, etc, and is a very capable mini enduro bike.
I've always liked Brendog's fearless riding style and very pleasant easy going attitude, but it sure takes guts or strong balls to jump bikes w/o a dropper. Brendan looks like a realIy fun guy to hang around with, but would not want to see him land badly on that rigid seatpost. I also have a XC Scott Spark built up, but with 120mm of rear wheel travel. Besides adding a dropper, wider 760mm bars, better tires, I changed the 32 forks to 34 SC forks. After these "trail worthy upgrades", it still weighs only 23.1lbs (size Large), even with pedals & bottle cage. For a trail ready 120mm full suspension bike, it absolutely rips. I agree with Brendog, the Spark really does fly up the hills and keeps me from riding my EMTB, as it's just so much fun. Click on my username to see the bike!
@RowdyAirTime: People keep complaining about broken frames. Most people don't complain about the few seconds they sacrificed on a heavier bike; what they do post all over social media is their broken ultralight frame.
I bought years ago aYeti ASR C and changed some parts, I was always wandering how hard a XC bike can be ridden (doesn´t matter change some parts) I think I got my question answered. I can't make the half of the jumps there so few grams and all fun...
Love Brendog, great commercial. I wish they were all that entertaining... but that trail while looking fun & grarly AF, doesn't qualify as "rocky".... that's my nit-pick for today.
Where that is filmed the "rock" is all sandstone. It basically dissolves if you even glance at it. When I lived in the area and climbed I had to travel quite a long way to find a crag.
Well this should be named: How hard can you shred on a world cup XC FRAME. Because he has changed most of the parts including the fork, wheels, bars, brakes. So it's not a XC bike anymore. It's at least a "downcountry" now.
@marc-c: interesting he definitely says he's using 120 mm. The way he says it sounds like he's on a full 120 mm bike. I wonder if you can just remove the spacer from the RC version.
@Chridel: No. So? It has 120mm of travel and you claimed it wasn't an XC number. Yet 120mm travel has been common in XC marathon for a good while. I'm no walking encyclopedia of suspension forks throughout the years but the marathon forks from Marzocchi typically had 120mm of travel. That Spark in the article to me appears to make for a fine marathon bike. And then you go and show a bike that has been clearly tuned for XCO racing. That's XC too, but not the only kind. To me (but I'll have to get used to these bigger wheels for reference so I might be wrong) but the fork in your picture looks as if it has even less than 100mm of travel.
@Chridel: If you look at my bike in my pictures, I dropped travel for that fork down to 120mm too (from the 150mm it had initially). I've heard some say it is a long fork too but it isn't. Then again references may have shifted. Typically you'd look at the wheels as a reference to how big everything else is. My wheels are 26" (26x2.4" Conti Trailking tire in the front on an 29mm inner width rim) and my fork stanchions are 32mm (Magura TS which are both smaller than what people consider normal these days. So maybe for people used to seeing 34mm stanchions and 29" wheels, my fork travel looks longer than it is . Not sure whether it necessarily goes for people used to 27.5. I've held my front wheel next to 27.5x2.2" tired front wheels and it looks pretty much the same to me.
Marzo called their 120mm fork the Marathon which doesn't mean marathon xc racing was really its purpose. I won't check now but willing to bet a lot of top marathon XC racers run 100mm travel bikes to this day.
And sure as hell 120mm hasn't been an XCM number for two decades @vinay In 2002 for example Kona introduced the 100mm front/rear Bear positioned as what we would call an all mountain bike today and that 100mm was considered pretty long. Only in 2005 it was upped to 120mm and still far from an XCM bike. 2000s GT XCR also had 100mm front travel (I think 115 rear) and that was more of a trail bike. 2000 Stumpy: 75/80mm r/f. 2000 Enduro: 115/100 r/f. Giant XTC 75mm. And so on. In early 2000s you'd still see a lot of XC hardtails with 63mm forks instead of 80. It was still a while before 120mm travel appeared on trail bikes let alone XC.
In XC racing whether you have 100 or 120 up front makes little difference to the efficiency of the bike because the bias in the normal racing position is rearward. 20mm makes a big difference in efficiency for rear travel. And remember with remote travel adjustment and lockout (such as the Scotts have) travel makes even less difference to efficiency. As long as the weight penalty isn't too great. And at the WC level, it's a different story.
@bananowy: Alright, I wasn't so tightly monitoring what people were running on their bikes but considering the Marathon was quite a sophisticated mid/high level fork I would have expected it to be used in competition. I knew enough people who were using a 120mm travel fork for this purpose. I rode one on a 130mm fork though admitted I never cared about the competition side of it. Just as enduro is nowadays, it was just the kind of event to sign up for if you wanted a good day of no stress supported riding.
Of course as wheelsizes grew, they initially also became narrower, headangles got steeper and fork travel went down. I've still got a 26x2.4" first generation Racing Ralph (rear tire in my pics) whereas it seems it is quite recent that we're seeing 2.4" wide XC tires in the larger diameters. So an XC bike with a 100mm travel fork and 29" wheels now may allow for the same as you could get away with on an older XC bike with 120mm travel forks and 26" wheels. I have no experience with the bigger wheels but at least this is what the marketing has been telling me .
Bla bla bla ... Nino this, Nino that ... says the bike is perfect although he changed everything on it ... bla bla ... shows the bike on every single but don't say it's a commercial. I like the bike, but this is a commercial, not a "funny video"
One thing that I'm looking forward to once lockdown is over, is pro mountain bikers can quit this cringe youtuber/vlogger facade and get back to riding bikes
I was excited when I saw the title though, a pro shredding an XC bike has huge potential. And he does deliver on that part.
I've always liked Brendog's fearless riding style and very pleasant easy going attitude, but it sure takes guts or strong balls to jump bikes w/o a dropper. Brendan looks like a realIy fun guy to hang around with, but would not want to see him land badly on that rigid seatpost. I also have a XC Scott Spark built up, but with 120mm of rear wheel travel. Besides adding a dropper, wider 760mm bars, better tires, I changed the 32 forks to 34 SC forks. After these "trail worthy upgrades", it still weighs only 23.1lbs (size Large), even with pedals & bottle cage. For a trail ready 120mm full suspension bike, it absolutely rips. I agree with Brendog, the Spark really does fly up the hills and keeps me from riding my EMTB, as it's just so much fun. Click on my username to see the bike!
*searches BUY/SELL for Scott Spark*
What is downcountry anyway, it pedals up, surely it should be upcountry?
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I feel like anything outside of a full on DH sled is getting called XC these days.
thats a Worldcup winning version of the bike, does not look like the same amount of fork travel, right?
Whatever, the fox fork in the video looked long to me :-P
Without changing anything on the bike. Go figure.
That Spark in the pic has 80mm up front IIRC.
Marzo called their 120mm fork the Marathon which doesn't mean marathon xc racing was really its purpose. I won't check now but willing to bet a lot of top marathon XC racers run 100mm travel bikes to this day.
And sure as hell 120mm hasn't been an XCM number for two decades @vinay In 2002 for example Kona introduced the 100mm front/rear Bear positioned as what we would call an all mountain bike today and that 100mm was considered pretty long. Only in 2005 it was upped to 120mm and still far from an XCM bike. 2000s GT XCR also had 100mm front travel (I think 115 rear) and that was more of a trail bike. 2000 Stumpy: 75/80mm r/f. 2000 Enduro: 115/100 r/f. Giant XTC 75mm. And so on. In early 2000s you'd still see a lot of XC hardtails with 63mm forks instead of 80. It was still a while before 120mm travel appeared on trail bikes let alone XC.
Of course as wheelsizes grew, they initially also became narrower, headangles got steeper and fork travel went down. I've still got a 26x2.4" first generation Racing Ralph (rear tire in my pics) whereas it seems it is quite recent that we're seeing 2.4" wide XC tires in the larger diameters. So an XC bike with a 100mm travel fork and 29" wheels now may allow for the same as you could get away with on an older XC bike with 120mm travel forks and 26" wheels. I have no experience with the bigger wheels but at least this is what the marketing has been telling me .
The Spark has two versions. The XC and Trail models. XC (RC model) is 100/100mm travel. The Trail is 120/120mm of travel.
I like the bike, but this is a commercial, not a "funny video"
BULLshit with Brendog?