Video: Moto Freeride in Los Angeles with Robbie Maddison & Tyler Bereman

 exactly my thoughts. Apart from the bridge jump, the drone operator was the real freerider in this video.

 I'm guessing they're supposed to be cool shots on areas that are normally impossible to shoot on but good lord. That was worth it just for that bridge drop. Absolutely crazy. It looks like his front wheel taco-ed a little on impact.

 Hate to say it but in this day and age, that was overall pretty weak. Other than the bridge drop, kept wondering when they were going to do something creative. (I accept full responsibility for being ruined by the mind-blowing things I regularly see online!)

 @scott-townes: Damn yeh just watched it back at .25 speed and that's a yuuuuuuge flat spot

 @scott-townes: Yeah you are right it definitely wasn’t running true after that. Maybe that’s why he had to wheelie the rest of the video.

 The real question is how long till someone backflips the same drop on a scooter

 What you talking about? This was a great video of E-bikes!

 The tacoed front wheel on the bridge. Then clever edit for river wheelie.

 Duuude came here to say exactly the same... boring video in general... That Bridge jump was the only rad thing.. Wheelies and burnouts ? really ?

 Except the 2 big jumps, normal ride in a lot of other place in the world...But in L.A context, I understand.

 exactly that was on vitals insta this mornin

 Nothing to do against Fabio tbh

 Was an epic drop. free ride masters

 I think Wibmer spoiled me. I wasn't prepared for this Wibmer in Paris video but I wasn't prepared for this one either, at the other end of the spectrum.

 You right. I wasted 5:32 minutes of my life.

 @amonas: I'm glad that i am not the only one who found this video *meh*.

 fabio would do it on a bicycle. and if danny macaskill brings his bike up with a lift, we all know how he's getting down.

 ok well shit that drop was fucking nuts. Luckily he didn't break his neck in the whiplash.

 @Ferd: this drop is crazy, i fully agree that this is insane level; probably video have not the best montage, however epic level of riding

 @Ferd: I saw that set up and thought: "bad idea". Then watched that landing and thought: "really bad idea". Ouch.

 @phops: have to chuckle that you consider yourself somehow independent of Pinkbike commenters!

 @phops: who said pinkbike commentators take themselves seriously?

 @phops: Normally I would agree on PB commentators, - but man that was boring as hell - apart from the bridge drop - if ya gonna make edits then more bangers are needed, thats why special edits are great - otherwise there are more bangers than that in a 5 second insta clip

 same xD Out with that bridge jump, Guess I could do all the rest myself

 I like how they got stuck in traffic then cut to a bunch of closed roads that contributed to said traffic.

 Handed out a bunch of free old English and bagfuls of grain

 Open any moto magazine- you will see few pages of MTB

 @phops: That might be a reason, but not 'the' reason. Bike design progressed in many ways, and could have been influenced by rider's experiences on DBs. Don't know if there's data to back up that assertion, but from my admittedly limited POV the two groups of two-wheeled enthusiasts didn't cross-pollinate that much.

 Pinkbike comments was one of the factors that got me to pull the trigger on moto after 30 years on MTB! DH all the time for us in gravity-deficient regions. I love it so much and still retain no actual interest in ebikes!!

 @twozerosix:

No it literally is the reason. Most of the tech facts that gets thrown around these days when it comes to MTB all came from moto world. The reason you didn't hear about them before is solely because of the road bike origins of mountain biking where none of those things really mattered.

Hydraulic brakes (and recently floating rotors) existed on moto way before they came to MTB world.

Anti-squat was a well known motorcycle thing. Variable swingarm pivots and custom suspension links used to exist for bikes to increase or decrease anti squat.

Trail and head angle (or in moto world, rake angle which is the complement of the head angle), were VERY well studied and researched. Offset triple clamps were used to tune wheelbase and geometric trail forever, and the effect of preload on changing ride height front to back was well understood.

Suspension kinematics were also very well studied in Moto. Suspension linkages translated the arc motion of the swingarm into linear motion of the shock to keep damping consistent, shock and forks had low and high speed damping circuits, and piggy back shocks have been the standard for quite some time, as well as dual crown forks for stiffness. And recently, MTB got the inverted forks which have several advantages - those have been on Motos for quite some time too.

Moto world also had air suspension, including ones where you can adjust multiple chambers for specific response.

And as far as riding goes, DH riding got faster over more challenging terrain. Harder and faster riding required new tech, and all the engineers had to do is to look at the sport that already figured it out. And then DH bled over to enduro, and then enduro bled over to trail, and now you have Trail bikes that have slack head angles with 4 way adjustable forks, piggy back shocks, and anti squat built into the linkage for pedaling.

 First e-bikes, then motos...

 Speak for yourself.. i know a lot of MTB'ers who also ride motos (most of them a quick on both). I much prefer this over eMTB (a sad, half @rsed mix of both moto and mtb).

I love going fast on two wheels, whether its on the road or dirt, whether its with a real motor or none.

I really enjoyed seeing this as a bit of a breakup from the standard mix... also, next time you want some DH gear... save yourself a packet and go buy moto gear (gloves, helmets, jerserys, etc).

 You're not wrong. For example you can see this on tech/computer sites having a lot of articles about cars, mechanical watches or other not related content. Or if you have sister sites then they cross pollinate content between them so it almost doesn't make any difference reading one site or another all designed to bring those users from one site to another. Not completely the same case here, but I understand that Pinkbike likes to have content, and I have no doubt that to satisfy that need they will let pass something which in my opinion is off topic. And in time this can usually just increase as the people get less sensible about it. For example, I like sailing, shouldn't we get an article about that too in time?

 I'm honestly more of a moto guy than a MTB guy, but they are my two passions. I totally agree with you here. I go elsewhere for moto news/videos/tech. At least when we're talking about "front page" posts, I see no reason why this should be on Pinkbike.

 @phops: I can't disagree with any of the technical trickle-down aspects, but your original statement said "dirt bike riders coming into the sport" which I didn't think was accurate.

Love riding DBs tho - wish I had more time/money.

 @phops: inverted forks have been a thing in mtb for a little longer than "recently"

 @Levin192:

A few have been prototyped, but ironically, they ended up heavier than the non inverted versions, and were scrapped, because roadies.

Now you have DVO, Manitou, Intend and X Fusion I think with some very good products.

 Bit harsh......there's some skids.

 Because hydrocarbons

 @5afety3rd: let’s make gas powered pedal assist bikes, not a motorcycle right?!?

 @kingdick: brrrrrrap?

 looks like the rear shock is done too, the rear end doesn't come back up like the fork does.

 If I could legit do that without getting cops called on me or a cop seeing me, I would 100% still own a supermotard.

 @phops: the advantages of peak hour traffic... cop motorcycles are too wide to split lanes properly

 And Raha still does it better!

 So fun. With one hand on the SMG.

 Yea that’s the bar Maddo set for himself, had yet to come close

 Put in some mini flips and it's a Dylan Stark video.

 don't you know how it works? The ebikes don't require any effort but the dirt bikes do. ebike riders are pussies, dirt bike riders are totally rad. /s

 If Harley Davidson did not screw Alta Motors over, I think youd be pretty impressed. An electric dirtbike is something that some dream of since its quiet as hell, low maintenance, and so simple. Honestly I know you dont care as to what Im saying. Im just mad at Harley for ruining something good. RIP Alta Motors.

 @chillrider199: X2

 @chillrider199: I agree I rode a couple of them and they were pretty cool, but the battery life just wasn't there for a long day off-road. KTM has some cool new tech coming out so we will se what happens.

 @N9netn9ne: Yeah battery was not super long. For me I mainly saw it as a goldmine to just do after work rides. Wouldve been cool.

 KTM Freeride E-XC, lets see a review in PB!

 @drivereight:

Never coming to US unfortunately.

The problem with KTM is that KTM dealerships make a lot of money on the sale of the higher end models, and then all the repairs that have to happen on those, so they are not really interested in getting their techs certified to work on the Freeride E, especially because of the low demand.

Im holding out for the Honda one.