The Pinkbike Podcast: Episode 135 - Jesse Melamed on Data Acquisition, EWS Doping, & Training for Enduros

Jul 21, 2022
by Mike Levy  
Pinkbike Podcast
Art by Taj Mihelich


With a victory in Austria and a runner-up spot in Italy seeing him sit second overall in the series, Rocky Mountain's Jesse Melamed is having a hell of a year on the Enduro World Racing circuit. But winning a 13-minute-long EWS stage doesn't come without an incredible amount of not just hard work and discipline, but also plenty of injuries and what-could've-been moments over the years. Jesse also has an engineering degree and is one of the most technically astute racers around, even going so far as to purchase his own data acquisition system that he runs at every race and often at home as well.


Jesse Melamed needs no comment here...
2022 Rocky Mountain Race Face Enduro Team


Episode 135 sees Jesse sit down in my shop to chat about how relatively soft suspension and data acquisition have allowed him to go even quicker, the importance of analyzing and understanding his crashes and how that led him to a better bike set-up, not having a mentor while racing, his love of training hard, doping in enduro racing, and a whole bunch more.

Got a question for Jesse? Put 'em in the comment section below and he might give you an answer.





THE PINKBIKE PODCAST // EPISODE 135 - JESSE MELAMED ON DATA ACQUISITION, TRAINING FOR ENDUROS, & EWS DOPING
July 21st, 2022

Winning a 13-minute-long EWS stage is no joke.



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91 Comments
  • 67 0
 Jessie seems like a righteous dude. I wish him continued success.
  • 27 0
 Thanks a lot!
  • 20 0
 Amazing. Great questions and Jesse totally open to answering them. Cant wait for a parts 2-10 haha
  • 16 0
 It was a good conversation! I really like Levy's style.
  • 10 0
 Jesse how do you turn the climbing legs back on after big descents? Under fatigue with those sustained DH sections and transitions back to pitchy climbs. Also DH sprint breathing and getting it back under control.
  • 30 0
 Slowly. I take my time to get myself climb ready; gloves off, goggles in their bag, some food, water, and then I ease back into climbing slowly.
The first step in getting the breathe under control is to not let it get out of control, I try to keep it steady as long as possible and unless I am going balls out I can usually manage to do that.
  • 5 0
 Shout out to the NoFlow Zone! For me it's the Westside, but totally agree... best trails are not in the park. The park is great, but the valley is astounding. So for EWS, less bike park and bigger days? Such a tricky balance of visibility, maintenance, and giving you racers what you want. Bring back Crankzilla! And props to Rocky for an amazing Rocky/Crankworx/WORCA collab - watch for it! Need an Altitude? Stay tuned!
  • 4 0
 The jump trails are worth it! But I like trail riding and whistler has a lot of goods for that!
  • 1 0
 Oh I totally loved Westside trails, definitely my most favourite area
  • 7 0
 Glad to see Jesse is such a chill dude. Def rooting for him to take the overall this year!
  • 7 0
 Thank you! I'll do my best!
  • 5 0
 Levy referenced the issue of pushing hard when feeling bloated by food or liquids on the long days racing. Do you ever consider using a sphincter plug like Richie Rude has been using from his new sponsor(PLUGZ)?
  • 12 0
 I'm working on my own sponsor in that area, coming out with a pro-model.
  • 7 0
 This was a really fun listen. Awesome to hear Jesse's perspective.
  • 7 0
 Appreciate it!
  • 3 0
 Is there a risk of Levy becoming a legit journo / presenter? Great questions well answered... Jesse's turn on Downtime was really good as well, seems like a top guy, definitely quality rider. Genuinely think we're really lucky with the access these podcasts have to the downhill and EWS riders, and characters around the sport. With Cathro and co taking it to the next level.
  • 5 0
 Im going to be racing in my first EWS 100 in whistler in a couple weeks, any last minute advice for someone new to racing?
  • 17 0
 Plan out your practice and race days once you know the course. Food, directions, timing. That way you can just focus on riding and having fun with all the rest dialled.
  • 6 0
 @downtimepodcast did a couple shows fairly recently covering this very topic. You should check them out.
  • 1 0
 @IMeasureStuff: I will give it a listen! thanks.
  • 5 0
 Jesse: favourite mid race day snack? Do you ever eat anything resembling a full meal on a long race day?
  • 9 0
 On race day I try not to be picky as we just need calories, so I have all kinds of different fuel. Candy is probably my favourite as I don't really eat it outside of race day.

If we are given time for lunch mid day I usually have a pasta salad of some sort, or just another pb&j. But these days we are only getting 20-30 minutes for a pit stop so it isn't much time to get a big meal in before pedalling again.
  • 6 0
 @JesseMelamed: Candy is the best for big days, i recently discovered you can buy a pack of all pink starbursts and i haven't looked back
  • 3 0
 @sudochuckwalla: Good find!
  • 3 0
 @JesseMelamed: i find jaffa cakes or packs of fig rolls better than packs of sweets
  • 1 0
 @JesseMelamed: Thanks for the detail, all the best.
  • 2 0
 @slimjimbikes: oh yea, fig newtons are good! Make my mouth a bit dry though.
  • 2 0
 Hey, I've seen you throwing back flips off some pretty big cliffs on skis, do every worry about hurting yourself and messing up your race season or that easy/safe compared to what you do on a bike?

*Edit: Also, why are these podcasts so short, I could listen to Jesse and Mike talk about biking for hours!
  • 6 0
 Unfortunately I had an appointment I had to run to otherwise I could have kept talking for a lot longer! Yes I do worry about that, but I really only ski tour these days so it's good base training in the winter and I do my best to keep myself safe.
  • 2 0
 Really interesting episode. It's cool how open Jesse is in both podcast form and in his/MGM's videos. I got much more into the EWS during lockdown in 2020, and Jesse's awesome videos from that 'season' really helped out. It's great to see the top riders putting out so much content, and being so open/approachable/friendly. I didn't realise about the engineering background, but that certainly makes more sense of all the in-depth tinkering and puzzling!

Just a note for Levy/the mods, it seems in my podcast feed there are two Podcast #132s, no Podcast #133 and two Podcast #135s. In the podcast list in the article, they're numbered correctly but you've missed out the PBR Podcast #6 from Vallnord which would technically be #135, with this being #136.
  • 4 0
 I can't help it, I need to know how it all works, whatever it is.
  • 2 0
 those videos from @JesseMelamed where the best out there, all the tweaks and changes on the bike, the whys really well explained, the trail videos with ALN, Miranda and Remi also really good. Keep the good work Jesse!
  • 5 0
 Anybody know what EVOC pack he was referencing?
  • 11 0
 www.evocsports.com/HYDRO-PRO-1.5-1-5l-Bladder/100327100
  • 11 0
 @JesseMelamed: hey that racer guy replied comment, sweet!
  • 2 0
 @JesseMelamed: If you want an even better setup, swap out the standard bladder for a pressurized one, like the Auquamira. The water will shoot out so you don't have to suck it out, and it allows you to spray water if needed.
  • 1 0
 @JesseMelamed: www.amazon.com/Aquamira-Pressurized-Hydration-Reservoir/dp/B087D8XQM9
  • 2 11
flag wburnes (Jul 21, 2022 at 18:18) (Below Threshold)
 @JesseMelamed: Also Jesse, I'm shocked that you didn't mention Creatine Monohydrate as part of your supplement stack. It is without question the best supplement, especially for athletes (also Vitamin D, and Fish Oil). You are at a major disadvantage without it.


Benefits of supplementing creatine if you don't already know:

Improves muscle recovery after exercise or injury, muscle endurance, muscle fullness, muscle strength, and anaerobic running capacity.

Reduces the severity of concussions, traumatic brain injury, and dementia.
Improves intelligence, reasoning, and short-term memory performance (especially under sleep deprivation), allows your body to absorb more water, improves your ability to utilize, create, and store creatine.

examine.com/supplements/creatine
  • 1 0
 @wburnes: Interesting!
  • 3 0
 @wburnes: I just didn't mention it... I take it, and Vit D and Fish oil. I'm on it!
  • 2 0
 @JesseMelamed: looks like the bladder has recently been updated
www.aquamira.com/pressurized-reservoirs
  • 4 0
 Great interview, especially the suspension settings part. The one with Richie was gold Big Grin
Good luck at home soil Jesse!
  • 2 0
 Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for listening.
  • 2 0
 Holy shit, that comment from @jessemelamed at roughly 2min about going in between speed hit home. I was literally scrubbing gravel out of my knee from a ride where I did just that earlier today listening to the podcast.
  • 1 0
 Edit: roughly *27 min in
  • 4 0
 @mechaNICK: Had to listen to the whole thing to find that! But it's true, you need to ride the speed you ride at the most. And to get faster is just slowly lifting that speed.
  • 1 0
 @JesseMelamed: it was more that I was bored, let a gap open so I could ride up to it, but was still in bored brain mode.
  • 1 0
 Yo Jesse, do you feel the tall guys with all the body suspension and weight have an edge on the downhill? You look like you have long arms and legs so Im sure that fills in the gap somewhat. But I have a talented friend who swears the tall guys basically by nature have a very competitive edge compared to him being on the shorter side.
  • 3 0
 Look at the top DH racers, aside from the anomalous Peaty and Greg, all the top pros are distinctly average height. What you gain in lever length you lose in leverage.
  • 2 0
 @L0rdTom: how does increased lever length lose leverage lol what kind of nonsense is this
  • 2 0
 For sure they gain an advantage with their limbs acting as longer suspension, but then they also have more size and weight to get around the trails which can be cumbersome.
  • 1 0
 @Yody: its basic mechanics really, if you increase the length of your femur, your hip flexor has to lift the weight of your lower leg at a greater distance (worse leverage.) Good for effector speed but bad for moment force.
  • 1 0
 @L0rdTom: ok ok except with the longer femur length you're already on top of the rear axle without barely having to move. Since that's what your leveraging around, the longer femur has advantage. This is why a taller rider can hoist a manual without proper technique while a shorter rider has to really nail it. This is also why taller riders can ride longer chain stays and still easily generate lift. While shorter riders have a much harder time with long stays and long front ends. Also why companies are finally starting to adjust stay lengths by size.
  • 1 0
 @Yody: yeah essentially bikes are still too small for tall people. Front and rear centre ratios are also way out as you said.
  • 1 0
 I feel the part where you say you “can’t just go down the trail” you speak that you need to attack the downhill and that hits home so hard. I don’t desire to just trail ride when I’m on a really good bike I desire to attack it like a stage, sometimes up and down in the rolling hills of the east coast md/de/pa. When it’s not a race it’s still a race, 90% downhill is the safest spot and try to give the other 10% but don’t bring the heart rate up but try to keep the roll up. It’s a science and once you look at it by the math you can never get out. Once you start riding with kids in a trailer or go out biking with 3 generations of family then biking takes a whole new meaning.
  • 1 0
 It's true! Looks like you have it figured out!
  • 1 0
 Awesome podcast, super insightful. Jesse, can you share some more details on bike setup? Specifically when you mentioned running the bike soft, chainstay length, stem length. Also you what rise bars do you run and how as this affected your performance on the bike?
  • 1 0
 quite of lot of fork and shock sag, 437CS length and 40mm stem length. 40mm rise bars as well.
  • 1 0
 double posting this - apologies

@mikelevy @mikekazimer - how about a podcast episode dedicated specifically to the history of privateers and DH (and Enduro) racing since the new $3000 to $20,000 fee is pretty much going to terminate them from existence - like the lepers & pleebs they are!

I've been reading up on this lately and only scratching the surface but there are some comments in the Levy's "Racing Rumours" article (July 26) here that seem to suggest some of the fans could give 3 s***'s about privateers...that's fine too - opinions. I think they are essential - the roots & the soul of the whole thing...
  • 1 0
 Hey. Really enjoyed the episode overall. Quick somewhat unrelated comment. I was excited to hear your sponsor for the episode was Yakima as I am looking for a new bike rack. However, it looks like the discount code only works in the US! What's the deal with not having an option for Canada?
  • 1 0
 @mikelevy can we get a pod episode going back through comments of older product releases and laughing at the hot takes? My buddy has been on his Foxy XR for a few years now and as we were talking through the slightly dated geo, took a look at the release article and all the reactions of how extreme it was back when it was announced.
  • 5 0
 comments are dope!
  • 6 0
 Cool! Comments!
  • 5 0
 yes lad!
  • 5 0
 yesss
  • 3 0
 Great to see you and the RM crew up at the top! Such good people, hard workers. Well deserved success
  • 3 0
 Thank you! Good bike too!
  • 2 0
 Really enjoy this type of episode. Any podcast with Jesse is always a good one. Really like the insight and hearing him nerd out about bikes.
  • 1 0
 Stoked you liked it!
  • 2 0
 What was jesse's finding on arm pump? He said he tested some things but then there was a joke and a change of subject. Did I miss an answer?
  • 3 0
 Yea I just said gloves, grips, handlebars and fork setup. Find what works best for you.
  • 1 0
 @JesseMelamed: Out of curiosity, is that part of the reason you switched from Renthal grips to Race Face grips?
  • 2 0
 Jesse embodies everything that is good about mountain biking. What a dude Can wait to see him on the podium at the end of the season!
  • 3 0
 @mikelevy question for Seb the geo guru. Matching stem length to fork offset: anything to it or just pseudoscience?
  • 2 0
 Any idea what telemetry system Jesse is using?
edit: never mind. I re-listened and he mentions Motion Instruments.
  • 3 0
 That's the one!
  • 2 0
 Boys. When is the next proper PB podcast gonna drop? Good lord. I'm getting carpal tunnel on the refresh button.
  • 2 0
 We're all at Crankweek right now and I'm recording a handful of podcasts while we're here. Incoming, hopefully tomorrow afternoon Smile
  • 1 0
 @JesseMelamed a little late on the comment, but what's your go to pancake recipe!?
  • 2 0
 EWS doping?! That's not a thing.
  • 6 2
 sharing a bottle is caring!
  • 5 0
 I hope so!
  • 1 0
 You haven't ride DH Bikes but still won a DH race in front of Finn Illes...Was that the pace setting you use to go?
  • 3 0
 That was just really precise riding on an enduro bike.
  • 1 0
 The real unasked question - who's your f1 team?
  • 1 0
 Hello Jesse, do you manage to make a decent living from your sport ?
  • 2 2
 The double entendre in there was....none of our business...but pretty funny.
  • 3 0
 hahaha
  • 2 0
 Enjoyed this episode!
  • 1 0
 Glad to hear!
  • 1 0
 cue a world wide run on 40mm stems.







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