Descending The Delano Peak's geometry felt very familiar, likely due in part to the fact that those numbers are nearly identical to the Norco Optic I've been using this year as my personal test sled. The Delano Peak has 10mm more travel at the front and rear, but the fact that the reach, head angle, and chainstay length are nearly identical meant that I didn't need to re-train my brain to get accustomed to the handling.
Slower speed, technical puzzles are where the Delano Peak felt most at home, those awkward bits of trail where you might need to do a little rear wheel lift here, and a shimmy around a tree there to get through without dabbing. It's an easy bike to get off the ground, whether that's to pop off the lip of a jump, or to skim over a chunky section of trail. That trait allowed it to perform well on steep trails, as long as they weren't
too rough – I never felt like I had to fight it to make a line choice change or switch my angle of approach when coming into a corner.
The DPX2 shock's compression tune felt very light, and just like on the climbs, I ended up spending a lot of time with the 3-position dial in the middle setting for more support, reserving the full open position for times when I wanted maximum traction and didn't mind the reduced platform. The open position can be fine tuned to add more low-speed compression, but I do think Fezzari could have gone with a slightly firmer tune without any issues. Up front, that new 36 was smooth and silent, and I didn't need to stray far from the suggested base settings to find a comfortable set up.
The Delano Peak's limits start to appear at higher speeds and in rougher terrain. 'Twangy' is the best adjective I can come up with to describe how the frame felt when things got extra-hectic. It's a little more country and a little less rock-and-roll than, say, the Nukeproof Reactor – there's only so far that it can be pushed before you're reminded that you're not on an enduro bike. Riders who are able to make better line choices and adopt a more energetic riding style will get more out of the Delano Peak than those who want to smash through everything.
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Horst properties are usually associated with Specialized, which, until recently, favoured low anti-squat, low motion ratios (high leverage ratios), and fairly flat motion ratio curves.
DW designs are all done by Dave Weagle. He tailors them to customers' requests, but he definitely imparts his personal preferences on all his designs, so it's not surprising they feel similar.
CBF designs follow the same pattern: Chris Canfield has very specific ideas on kinematics and he creates those for his clients.
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Seems odd when people want to bash options to the more expensive bikes available.
Riding a Trail Pistol now, much more durable, better suspension, more damp, and far better performance.
So yeah, it didn’t work for me AND I lost a bunch of money cuz resale sucks on Fezzari.
Your mileage may vary
You need to be not freewheeling for kickback to have any real affect.
As has been shown many times, recently, by myself and others, coasting kickback is nearly non-existent on any bike. If it does happen, it's not "all or nothing": you wouldn't experience the maximum possible kickback, you would experience only a couple of degrees, if it even occurs.
Pedaling feedback is definitely a real thing, though. As I mentioned, twin-short-link bikes can, but don't always, reduce anti-squat late in the travel to minimize this, but it's not very useful, as no one is pedaling beyond about 50% travel.
Bottom line: No, Horst and twin-short-link designs are not very different in terms of kickback.
It's true most Horst designs decrease in a fairly steady manner throughout the travel. That's true of most designs of all sorts. Many designs have curves that get quirky in the higher (smaller) sprockets, such as rising anti-squat.
There's no reason a Horst will be deeper in the sag than any other design on a climb, so we can dismiss that.
If anything, twin-short-link designs often feature anti-squat that drops more rapidly than Horst designs. Support comes from the spring and the leverage curve, so while there may be a bit more or less bobbing while pedaling, the spring and leverage curve is still what keeps the rider up in the travel (or not).
If your twin-short-link bikes are "zippier" climbers than Horst bikes, it's probably because the former had higher anti-squat, not because of the layout. Same story with traction. Many Horst designs are found on old-school bikes drawn by old-school designers, so the old-school properties were imparted by the designer, not intrinsic properties of the linkage type.
Not worth the savings taking that risk.
When I sold my 4 month old Ripley, they were still in demand and hard to get. I got in on the first batch.
When I tried to take advantage of the demand, people just said they'd wait and get a warranty for a little more.
Which models? I'm hoping the LSP was part of the learning curve for making a sturdy carbon bike. This frame 'looks' burlier and better aesthetically imo.
Some of the fastest locals I know are on the LSP.
I'll be lining up a demo of this one pretty soon.
"North American sales are solid but for the LIFE of me I can't figure out why we haven't sold a SINGLE bike in Central or South America."
indeed!
They also are somewhat following function over form. Two water bottles is a big deal for some people.
Haven't had any durability issues of the crashing assortment. Has stood up to that just fine even though every time I crash my levers bash the top tube because of that silly kink.
As a PC woke comment - should we support a bike that glorifies the name of an ignoble character?
Waki where are you?
Light, cheap, durable.
Pick two
Younger brands like Fezzari tend to get better with every new model released.
Yeah Vital posted a glowing review.
I thought the LSP rear end felt a little flexy, not necessarily a bad thing just an observation, and this model also has the same narrow, ovalized seatstays. Vital did mention the bike tracked really well in flat, rough corners, I think due to the flex in the rear end.
Anyways, for a frame up build there are a few more carbon options (ok, w/ alu rear ends) not far from this pricepoint w/ the Norco Optic and Guerrilla Gravity offerings at about $2500 w/ rear shock. And if YT ever starts selling frame only in N America I think we'll see another spike in those out on the trail.
The new Reverb C1 is actually pretty sweet, I'm stoked with mine. 50+hrs so far and zero maintenance. That's more than I can say for any other dropper I've owned
One of my droppers is 3 years without a service and the second one gets refreshed once a year to help the longevity (15min job - Bikeyoke)
Best of luck with the Reverb gotta break the bad luck finally.
OG 160mm BikeYoke Revive feels new completely untouched for cleaning or maintenance for two years.
Reverb just just doesn't make sense for the consumer.
I've owned the bike for 50hrs of riding so far. Unless you've come up with some way to accelerate wear purely for the purposes of testing stuff to breaking point then I'm not sure what else you expect from me...
50hrs is a win for me considering that for all of the sealed-cartridge posts I've used recently (PNW, Oneup, Race Face) I've had to remove & grease the sealhead at a minimum by this point. Sometimes a couple of times. While they're pretty simple posts and that's really all they ever need short of replacing the cartridge, it's still frustrating.
And if the new 300h service interval that SRAM claims turns out to be correct then it costs you roughly the same as a couple of cartridges over the same time period and you get to use a much nicer post...
Their whole model of direct sales but custom fitted is great. You can custom build a commencals, but $$$.
I mean, people are putting Apples up to their ears - right?
This is all coming from a Santa Cruz owner. I liked the way it rode, telling me that the warranty and bearings are worth $1000+ doesn't really hold water IMO.
Sadly, SC did make him saw the bottom bracket of the bike being replaced.
Have you ever gotten replacement bearings from SC? Here's the deal...they ship you a bag of sealed cartridge bearings (that would otherwise cost you about $30). You have to do the hard work yourself...either removing the old bearings and pressing the new ones, or paying a bike shop to do it.
So...pay $1000 (really $1700) to have a comparable bike and save $30 every two years on bearings when you still have to do the hard work of bearing removal and replacement on your own, or pay a bike shop. Not worth it in the slightest.
Fwiw Yeti/Pivot's etc 36 setup guide would have you running about 68PSI lol. Maybe that's more for us average Joes
With less PSI, it dives too much when I run into stuff or brake too heavy, which as an average Joe, I tend to do a lot of.
I'm never really close to bottom (probably on avg about 10mm left on most rides). When I do get close to bottom, it's usually an OH S**T moment. That last little 10mm has saved me numerous times.
Personally I like a supportive fork. I ride a lot of chunky, rocky terrain where I'm shifting my weight around a lot and I find that easy travel/movement up front is a disadvantage. Plus, as I try to get better at cornering (hard on the front brake, release, turn) I find that without the extra PSI, the fork dives too much. Also, I've found that with longer/slacker, I have to really weight the front of the bike or I lose traction on Colorado's loose marble turns.
I'm probably giving up some small bump compliance with this setup but I do run lower front tire PSI than typical, which gets some of that back.
My 8120s got wandering bite points after a month of riding or so. Bleeding them worked for another month. Not to mention the levers are made out of stamped steel with the strength of warm butter. I bent 2 levers in the first month of ownership just handling bikes, not even falling. I must not be the only person because replacement levers were unobtanium and I had to buy complete lever assemblies.
Just ended up buying a set of code RSCs and haven't had an issue in 2 months. Sram brakes use to be trash, but since the guide came out sram got better and Shimano got to 4 digit numbers and got worse.
"Will the internal cable routing rattle inside the frame like other bikes?
No. We specifically engineered the Delano Peak to minimize cable slap by utilizing our adaptive, future-proof, and rattle-free CleanCatch™ cable management system. The chainstay has internal molded cable routing to the rear derailleur. This makes for easy maintenance and a quiet ride."
hey big mack... how does the Optic climb? It seems like the reviews have been mixed on that, though everyone seems to agree it descends great.
Bros -"Hey what bike is that?"
You- "Oh hey, yeah it's a Rascal"
Bros -"Wait like a Grandma's electric scooter"
You- face palm>
So you're looking at two cars, a Toyota Sienna and a Kia Sedona. Both are very similar vehicles, the Kia is made in an old Toyota plant that Kia re outfitted. You can order more of less the same options, the vehicles look similar, and they have similar designs.
The Kia is less expensive than the Toyota. The Kia does not have quite the same quality and it has a higher cost of ownership because it's not as reliable and it's less durable. When you go to sell these two vehicles, the Kia will have lost more value. Which one would you choose?
So yeah, Fezzari and other direct to consumer companies have been able to reduce costs in various ways and they pass those costs off to the consumer. The consumer gets to to decide if the cost/benefit is a good compromise for them.
I don't think anyone reading this post would ever conclude that a Fezzari is as good as a Santa Cruz, that would be silly, but the Fezzari may be good enough for most folks, and that's what Fezzari is all about.
If he was referring to the handling effect of the bb drop/height, he would have said bb height, not COG.
Until Fezzarri stops cutting corners, actually does their own engineering and QA - and move their manufacture to Taiwan or Vietnam - they will continue to have these issues - and once they do fix them their frames will cost $500-$600 more
Hey Josh, It looks like you are just up the road from us in Salt Lake. Come swing down sometime, i'd be happy to show you around, offer a few insights on our layups, engineering, manufacturing, and maybe even pull back the curtain a bit more on some of our factories. I'm also happy to further explain the business model of direct sales and how we are able to offer the cost savings. When works best for you? - Tyler
Until Fezzarri stops cutting corners, actually does their own engineering and QA - and move their manufacture to Taiwan or Vietnam - they will continue to have these issues - and once they do fix them their frames will cost $500-$600 more
Best stfu response of the month.
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And other than the fact that is now free of the Specialized patent it is very unclear why manufacturers are still using the Horst link, a system that, as mentioned in passing in the review, pretty much forces you to use your shock lever lock out when you point up hill. It is 1980 technology, thank Mr.Leitner, that was good back then and was somewhat rescued by platform shocks in the early 2000. But it clearly shows its limitations compared to other systems and it does not really represent a good buy.
also the low 30's weights have given us bikes that rarely malfunction/break. i'll take that over fixing stuff often any day.