What exactly constitutes a “super enduro” bike? While I've done my fair share of smirking at the terminology Radon uses to describe this bike, I have to admit, the direct-to-consumer brand from Germany has made one hell of a rowdy, downhill-loving bike. Long, low, slack… all the trendy adjectives apply here. Radon’s 170-millimeter (6.7-inch) travel machine is a decidedly contemporary bike, decked out in smartly-chosen components. While these things could be said about a number of bikes out there, the Swoop 170 also packs a surprise: it's price.
Radon Swoop 170 9.0 1x11 Details• Intended use: enduro
• Wheel size: 27.5
• Front suspension: Rock Shox Lyrik RCT3
• Rear suspension: Rock Shox Vivid Air R2C
• Head angle: 64.8°-65.8°
• Aluminum front and rear triangles
• Sizes: 16, 18, 20 and 22-inch
• Weight: 31.86 pounds (14.45 kg)
• MSRP: €2,399
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@RADON-BIKES Per Radon’s site, this model is currently selling for €2,399.00. In other words, the Swoop 170 9.0 1x11 would sell for $2,630 US dollars/ $3,529 Canadian dollars. Note my use of the word “would”—I’m using it for a reason. The Swoop 170 is not available in North America at this time, which is a pity, because no matter what currency we’re talking about, this thing is a raging deal. There were originally five Swoop 170 models in 2016—the two upper-tier models have already sold out, leaving this model, a 2x variation and the base-model Swoop 8.0, equipped with a more budget-oriented parts kit and a €1,999 price tag.Frame & SuspensionWhile carbon is the belle of the cycling ball these days, it's hard--if not impossible, really--to knock a well-designed aluminum frame. The Radon features a mix of nicely-hydroformed aluminum tubes, all of which sport very clean welds. The cable routing is tidy; most of it is internally routed and the bit that is routed along the top of the down tube is securely anchored along the way. The Swoop has a front derailleur mount for those who love their front mechs, ISCG-05 tabs (our 1x bike is equipped with e*thirteen's minimalist TRS+ guide), a water-bottle mount (right where it belongs in the front triangle) and Boost 148 rear spacing.
There's been a veritable boom in Horst Link, rear-suspension designs in the United States since Specialized's suspension patent expired a few years ago. The Big Red S's Horst Link patents, however, never extended to Europe, which is why the design has always flourished on the Continent. Radon makes good use of the basic four-bar suspension system and pairs it with a vertically-mounted, RockShox Vivid Air RC2 rear shock. The combination gives a very deep-feeling and easily-tunable 170 millimeters (6.7 inches) of rear suspension.
GeometryRadon offers the Swoop 170 in four frame sizes—16, 18, 20 and 22-inch. Each size features a roomy cockpit. Reach on our size 20 test bike measures out at a rangy 473-millimeters (18.62 inches). Each flip-chip position changes head and seat tube angles by half a degree and bottom bracket drop by six millimeters (a quarter inch). To wit, in the most DH-friendly “Park” setting, you’re rocking a 64.8-degree head tube, 75-degree seat-tube angle and 21 millimeters of bottom bracket drop, which amounts to a 336-millimeter (13.22-inch) bottom- bracket height. On the other end of the Swoop geo spectrum, you can set the chip in the “Tour” setting, to achieve a 65.8-degree head tube, 76-degree steat tube and 349-millimeter (13.74-inch) bottom-bracket height.
While I enjoyed the Park setting, I generally piloted the Swoop without the aid of either a chairlift or shuttle vehicle and, consequently, rode the bike in the middle “Trail” setting most of the time. Messing with the flip chip is simple—it only requires three tools (a small Philips-head screwdriver and three and five-millimeter hex wrenches), but it’s also not the kind of “on-the-fly” feature that you’ll likely take advantage of in the middle of a ride.
Specifications
Specifications
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Release Date
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2016 |
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Price
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$2631 |
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Travel |
170 millimeters (6.7 inches) |
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Rear Shock |
Rock Shox Vivid Air R2C 216x63 |
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Fork |
Rock Shox Lyrik 27.5" RCT3, SA, taper |
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Headset |
FSA No.10 taper |
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Cassette |
SRAM XG-1150, 11-speed, 10-42 |
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Crankarms |
SRAM GX1 1400, 30T, 170mm |
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Chainguide |
e*thirteen TRS+, ISCG05 |
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Rear Derailleur |
SRAM GX1 11-speed |
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Chain |
SRAM PC-X1 |
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Front Derailleur |
NA |
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Shifter Pods |
SRAM GX1 |
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Handlebar |
Race Face Atlas 35mm, 800mm, 20mm Rise |
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Stem |
Race Face Atlas 35 |
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Grips |
Ergon GE1 |
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Brakes |
SRAM Guide RS |
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Wheelset |
DT Swiss E1900 Spline Two 27.5" Boost |
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Tires |
Continental Der Baron 2.4 |
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Seat |
Ergon SME30 EVO |
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Seatpost |
Rock Shox Reverb Stealth 31.6 x 420mm |
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Set-UpI set the Lyrik at 30 percent sag and experimented with both 30 and 35 percent sag on the Vivid Air, before finally settling on 30 percent for good. As for damping on the Vivid Air, I always ran the beginning-stroke rebound in the middle of its range and took advantage of a bit more damping on the end-stroke rebound adjuster. I didn't feel like the bike squatted excessively in corners and was never compelled to max out the clicks on the compression damper--I also ran it in the middle of its range.
ClimbingNo big surprise, the Swoop 170 does
not rocket up climbs like a scalded monkey or goat (go ahead and insert whatever climbing cliche you're fond of here). And this is true even when you've maxed out the handful of clicks on the Vivid Air's low-speed compression damper. The bike weighs about 32 pounds, has a 48-inch wheelbase and, in the steepest setting possible, you're still rocking a sub-66-degree head angle... Nearly-vertical, technical singletrack climbs rife with tight switchbacks are never going to be this bike's strong suit, but you knew that already. It's hard to slag a bike that is supposed to dominate downhills for not climbing like a flyweight, XC crotch rocket. So I won't. To be fair, if you stay seated and grind it out, the Swoop 170 is more than passable when it comes to pedaling efficiency. The steep seat angle and 30-tooth chainring also help take a bit of the edge off of uglier ascents. In short, if you're all about earning your turns, it'll get you to the top--just not real quick.
DescendingRidiculous. The bike is just ridiculous. And I mean that in the best possible way. Kudos go to the Lyrik and Vivid Air combination, which aptly mow through small and big hits alike. The rowdy sections of trail that I often enter a bit tensely became damn near velvety beneath the Swoop 170's wheels. In fact, the only glitch I encountered aboard the bike is that I suddenly found myself hitting stuff a lot faster than I'd intended. My ability to sense speed got a bit addled, at first, by the bike's tendency to transform trail that used to feel sketchy into trail that felt surprisingly mellow. Fortunately, when I overshot landings a bit, the bike's crazy-wide margin of error managed to save my carcass more than a few times. I took note, though--I'd need to re-evaluate what "fast" felt like, because I was suddenly, unknowingly, going a whole lot faster than I used to.
The Swoop has a very stable, planted feel to it. The long wheelbase helps here. A good choice for riders who want to hit the bike park without going full DH sled? Hell, yes. The Swoop 170 9.0 should be on the short list alongside similarly-priced Canyon Strive, Giant Reign and YT Capra models. For trail riders or all-mountain riders simply looking to up their downhill game a bit? Well, the Swoop 170 is a lot of bike and that cuts both ways. If you're coming off a more evenly-balanced, all-mountain bike with a shorter wheelbase, the Radon may strike you as a bit of a handful on tighter, singletrack downhills. This is not a bike that changes direction at your slightest whim. The very-short rear center on this bike keeps it from feeling like a tank, to be sure, but the Swoop 170 is not aimed at riders looking for the most "playful" bike possible. This thing is designed to get up to speed, easily stay there and just devour everything in its path while it's at it. If that sounds good to you, you should check it out.
Component Check• RockShox Lyrik/Vivid Air combo: I've already mentioned it, but really, the suspension pairing here is spot-on for the application. It made me want to slap a Vivid Air on several other bikes that do not have dual-crown forks on them. The rear end felt absolutely bottomless and controlled on sections of trail that usually rattle something loose from my bowels. Did I bottom out? Sure. Did I ever
feel like I bottomed out? Nope. How did Radon manage to put a $715 (USD)/€746 rear shock on a bike at this price? I'm not suggesting that €2,399 is chump change, but this is a shock you'd expect to see on gravity-oriented bikes selling for thousands more. Same holds true of the Lyrik RCT3. Both components qualify as Gucci-level spec on a bike that sells for less than what you might pay for some carbon frames alone.
• SRAM Guide RS brakes: The world is split, it seems, between those who love and those who hate SRAM brakes. I like the Guides. A lot. For me, it's all about the feel and the Guide RS's offer a brilliant balance of power and modulation. If you love the way your Shimano/Magura/Hayes/Formula brakes feel at the lever, I'm not going to argue with you about it. To each their own. It's worth noting, though, that no matter where you stand on this brake thing, the Guide RS brakes are also a hell of a lot of kit for the money.
• Continental Der Baron Tires: There is no single perfect tire for every location--true--but a bike with this much travel and capability demands a burlier, meatier tire than the Baron 2.4. The Baron is closer in size to a 2.3 and is a good trail bike tire, particularly in wetter conditions, but I'd have liked something along the lines of a Minion, Magic Mary, G5 or High Roller II. Some of my fellow editors pointed out that the DT Swiss E1900 Spline Two wheelset could also have played a role in my being less than over-the-moon about the tires' performance. Perhaps. It' s true that this particular wheelset, with its 25-millimeter internal rim width, might not offer quite the same sidewall support of a slightly wider rim. Then again, I've ridden plenty of 2.35 and 2.4-inch tires mounted on rims with similar internal dimensions and been content with the pairing. I think my dissatisfaction lies with the Baron, which is fine by me, because tires are always a quick and relatively inexpensive upgrade. Admittedly, going with a more aggressive set of rubber will add some pain to the climbing side of the equation, but you aren't buying a bike like this for the climbs.
Pinkbike's Take: | These days, a lot of models get called "mini DH bikes". The Swoop 170, however, is the real deal. It's a two-fisted, downhill brawler. And then there is this: the price is outrageously good. The Swoop 170 goes toe to toe with YT and Canyon's budget-aluminum Capra and Strive models. The only downside to the Radon? Riders in Canada and the States can't get their hands on one at this point. - Vernon Felton |
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About the ReviewerStats: Age: 44 • Height: 5'11” • Inseam: 32" • Weight: 175lb • Industry affiliations / sponsors: None In 1988 Vernon started riding mountain bikes—mainly to avoid the people throwing cans of Budweiser at him during his road rides. At some point, roughly when Ronald Reagan was president and Hüsker Dü was still a band, he began loving mountain bikes on their own terms. Vernon Felton spends most of his time riding bikes, thinking about bikes, thinking about riding bikes and then riding some more around Bellingham, Washington. If it has a greasy chain and two wheels on it, he’s cool with it. Except for recumbents. Well, okay, maybe those too. Nah, forget it. No recumbents.
I'm pretty sure she will be Myst by her old team mates
The best part, the price. ~2300 Euro for fox factory front and back, great components etc.
Radon really makes some hidden gems of bikes.
Their price point and component package is really a value it seems.
Freeride = super-enduro
DH = high-speed enduro
Trail = casual-enduro
XC = flat-enduro
Trials = urban-enduro
Enduro = enduro
One addition just to make sure I'm keeping up with the times:
BMX = mini-enduro ?
Spinning = Gym-enduro
DH is more just Single Stage Enduro
BMX- Sprint Enduro
Dual Slalom- Drag Enduro
Slope- Lofty Enduro
Marathon- Endurance Enduro
Cross Country- Uphill/Wrong Way Enduro
Cyclocross- Wrong Bike Rodeo Enduro
Trials- Parkour Enduro
Track- NASCAR Enduro
Unicycle- Broken Enduro
Only little cons :
centrelock add some play between parts
e1700 are a bit light for a Park season.
Aheadset is not really waterproof
E13 chain-guide open itself, fixed with some loctite.
Best bike ever ! Fast, easy to ride, stiff, good looking etc...
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Anyway, amazing bike, wouldn't mind getting me one (although my DH rig may become obsolete...). Bikes are getting really, really long though! Despite being very tall might opt for a L instead of an XL if I would get one.
I think that the 10.0 model will be equipped equally.
For me the swoop is not anymore an allround bike, compared to it's smaller brother. It's much more downhill oriented. Definitely nice to ride downhills, but too much to go over the alps.
The value for money puts everything else overpriced here in Canada to SHAME!
Check them out
The tyres were the only things I changed on mine for performance reasons. The wheels are fine with my Hans Dampf/Magic Mary combo.
They were surprisingly good, I thought - and they're 25mm internal according to the spec (certainly look it too).
My first ride blog review...
unduro.co.uk/mtb/first-ride-review-radon-swoop-170
I think it might be, & that's fairly interesting. finally getting adjustable geo to the point where the slackest setting isn't the only one worth using is new in my book.
It's really a pity that their bikes are not even deliverable to all European countries and that their occasional frame painting contests are rarely visible to people that don't speak German.They are losing a pretty number of sales against Canyon, YT, Commencal, because of this.
@RADON-BIKES, I hope you hear me
I'm definitely going to bye one but I don't need one for the winter and my current 125mm dropper and E1900 leave me wanting, maybe they'll change that next year?
The capra looks like a more solid frame with bigger bearings etc.
- seatstay is aluminium, not carbon
- BSA BB
- Guide RS brakes vs Guide R
- geo adjustable(at least BB hight and HA)
- water bottle support (I don't like backpacks)
I have the bike since May.
Mine had no important issues but I put Loctite on all suspension screws before I used it. And I only weight 68kg.
Suspension is not too progressive so I had to put air spacers in the Vivid to prevent bottom out.
I now use 9 out of max 12 but I think 7 will also work for me.
So if you plan to mount coil shock go with the Capra.
I demoed the bike with Monarch Plus and Float X and with locked shock it climbed quite well.
I'll take an inline shock if I ever need to make some tough climbing: real lockout instead of increased LSC and almost 300g lighter than VIVID.
I think if one really needs he can lighten up the bike quite much and obtain the "own desired"-enduro type of bike .
Worst comes to worst, you can find silly deals on the 1400s with unpopular chainring sizes if you know where to look. I bought a pair for $100 from bikewagon on ebay. So you could just swap cranks.
Not pure DH, not XC...not 'all mountain'; just a fun bike with plenty of travel. Dog not included
What exactly is the purpose of this bike, it's not quite a DH bike and not really an ALL-Mountain bike so its no good really at anything ?? or am I missing something ??