POV Cameras, Camcorders and Web Broadcasting - The Tech You Need To Know About From CES 2016

Jan 11, 2016
by Fraktiv  
Over the last few years, the Consumer Electronics Show - CES - has been attracting an ever broadening audience, and is now seen as the world's largest consumer electronics trade show, hosting over 3,600 exhibitors and 200,000 attendees across 2.4 million square feet of floorspace in Las Vegas, USA.

Since its first show in 1967, CES has been the launchpad for numerous consumer devices, from CD and VCR equipment in the 1970s and 80s to wearable tech and the burgeoning industry of the 'Internet of Things' in recent years. Practically every electronics brand you can think of is in attendance, as well as many you've never heard of, but soon will.

Each year, the show is marketed as the 'biggest and best-ever', and with the 2016 show now over, Faraday Future's smart sports cars, Ehang Inc's human-carrying drone transport and LG's foldable TVs have arguably stolen the headlines this year. But we wanted to see what innovations there might be for us mountain bikers...or at least for those of us as keen on gadgets to film, photograph or use when we're out on two wheels.

In this first of three articles, we're looking at POV cameras and camcorders as well as web broadcasting technologies.




POV CAMERAS AND CAMCORDERS



With products such as drones and wearable devices having a more specialist appeal (more on those in a bit), owning a good quality point-of-view camera is one of the accessories few would argue is a fairly common must-have in addition to owning your wheels. GoPro are seen by many as leaders in this sector, with Sony Action Cams offering a viable alternative, and more niche brands such as Contour, Drift and more recently Xiaomi offering competitive alternatives.

So aside from more pixels, faster frame rates and better quality photos and video, what more can these pocket-rockets add to persuade us to part with our hard-earned cash? A lot, it turns out.

CES 2016 saw a gaggle of 360° cameras, and while Kodak and Kickstarter-funded projects like Giroptic's 360cam have been available for some time, the show saw releases of new models such as the Kodak PixPro SP360 4K offering 4K 360° hemispherical coverage, as well as several models upping the coverage to full 360° x 360° spherical capture, such as the Nikon KeyMission 360, Ricoh Theta S, ALLie Go and Panono.

Partnering most of these new devices are clever smartphone apps that allow you to view and navigate within your footage (you can even pair some to virtual reality headsets for the ultimate experience in 'being there'), and with Facebook and YouTube's video players now offering interactive 360° and full spherical playback, there's even a relatively quick and easy way for you to publish your footage for all the world to see.

Nikon's KeyMission 360 is due Spring 2016, no pricing announced yet.
The Kodak SP360 4K costs $499, or a two-camera set costs $899.
Ricoh's 8GB Theta S is available now for $349.
ALLie Home is out now for $449. The 'Go' model is due later this year.
Giroptic's 360cam is available now for €499 ($545).
Panono's camera is shipping soon and can be pre-ordered for $1499.
POV Cameras Camcorders and Web Broadcasting - The Tech You Need To Know About From CES 2016
Nikon's KeyMission 360 and Kodak's PixPro SP360 4K.
POV Cameras Camcorders and Web Broadcasting - The Tech You Need To Know About From CES 2016
From left to right: the Ricoh Theta S, Giroptic 360cam, ALLie Home and Panono 360° cameras (not to scale).


Nikon's KeyMission 360 is still in development, but this clip demonstrates the full 360° x 360° spherical image. Stitching of the two hemispheres is still a bit off, so we're expecting image quality will improve in the final product.

Japanese Karate in Japan - Spherical Image - RICOH THETA

For a small, relatively low-cost unit, Ricoh's Theta S delivers impressive image quality, though its form-factor isn't designed for it to be mounted to a helmet (yet).



Bell 360fly

Bell 360fly
Bell's Super 2R with 360fly is expected Fall 2016.
When GoPro's cameras first hit the market, one of the biggest criticisms was their form-factor...in other words, the shape of the box. GoPro, in their wisdom, largely ignored this whilst rolling out more innovative mounts such as the Chesty, but other companies took this more seriously, with Contour, Drift, Sony and a few others opting for thin and sleek versus boxy and square.

From even a cursory glance at the new breed of 360° cameras, it's clear to see that form-factor is less of an issue nowadays, and some svelte form-factors could even be argued as been too subtle, certainly from a brand marketeer's point of view.

With this is mind - and presumably with a bit of an eye on compliance with rules that some downhill race regulators recently implemented, banning cameras fixed to helmets - Bell and Giro's parent company, BRG Sports, have introduced the Bell Super 2R with an integrated custom-built 360fly virtually flush-mounted 30fps-capable 360° camera.

Complementing the removable 4K camera unit - which can be used independently from the helmet - the 360fly also adds a raft of sensors, such as GPS, barometer/altimeter and an accelerometer, plus built-in Bluetooth and Wi-Fi, with a quoted two hours of battery life.

As if head protection and shooting 360° video aren't enough, planned features also include automatically action tracking of the main video subjects, peripheral vision danger detection and alerts, live video streaming and an auto-edit highlight reel function based on video sections that contain the most action.

The Super 2R 'smart helmet' is planned to be part of a range of motorbike, MTB and snow helmets, with a possible release date, though no pricing yet, slated for Fall 2016.


Pushing the 360° concept even further were Vuze, who were offering the world's first...wait for it...3D 360° spherical virtual reality camera.

After packing eight lenses into the camera (weighing 250g/9lbs and measuring 12x12x3cm) in order to generate a pair of synchronised spherical panoramas, you just have to feed your footage into your VR headset of choice to experience quite possibly the most realistic selfie you can imagine!

Some of Vuze's early footage suffered badly from visible seams between the cameras, but their CES video - which you can enjoy in full 360° x 360° 3D glory through the YouTube player below (be sure to select 4K 3D anaglyph mode if you can) - is much improved.

Vuze is still in development but the company estimate a cost of under $1,000, including the Vuze Studio software suite and optional VR headset. The complete Vuze ecosystem should be available from Q3 2016.
POV Cameras Camcorders and Web Broadcasting - The Tech You Need To Know About From CES 2016
It might not be for everyone, but 3D 360 spherical VR is coming.


It's not a bike video, but Vuze's 3D 360° spherical virtual reality camera offers a tantalising glimpse at how we might shoot and watch video in the future.



Aside from the snazzy new 360° cameras, Sony released a new Action Cam model and Live-View Remote - the 4K-capable HDR-AS50 - as well as three new consumer-level camcorders, with models offering 4K, optical SteadyShot and up to 120-fps HD recording, all of which are technologies that were until recently the preserve of their high-end broadcast and film ranges. Not to be out-done, Panasonic also packed new features into their new and re-launched consumer models - again trickling-down features from their pro-camera divisions - with their top-end HC-WXF991 model featuring two cameras in one body, and the ability to use up to three mobile devices as additional multiple cameras, all feeding into the main palm-sized unit. Essentially, it's a low-end multi-cam TV studio in a single product.

The Sony HDR-AS50 Action Cam will retail for around $200, and will optionally be bundled with the Live-View Remote 3 for around $350.
The Sony FDR-AX53 4K camcorder will be available from March for around $1,000.
With an estimated shipping date of mid-March, the Panasonic HC-WXF991 4K camcorder will retail for around $1,000.

POV Cameras Camcorders and Web Broadcasting - The Tech You Need To Know About From CES 2016
From left to right: Sony's Live-View Remote 3, HDR-AS50 Action Cam and Panasonic's HC-WXF991 4K camcorder (not to scale)



Notably absent from any major CES announcements was GoPro, who rather than showing new tech, continued to tease us with news of their upcoming Karma drone in addition to a few words about a forthcoming 360° consumer camera, the presumed Hero 5 model, development of the Session platform and a strategic partnership with Alphabet (Google's development arm) and Facebook, although there's nothing concrete to announce just yet.




WEB BROADCASTING



With an ever-increasing number of local and global bike events getting the live coverage treatment - from XC and DH to Rampage and Crankworx - and accessibility to high-speed networks like fibre broadband or 4G cellular becoming more widely available, new markets traditionally considered as high-end outside broadcast are opening up to allow small independent production teams to webcast these events to a much wider audiences than previously available. As with a lot of the high-end technology that has filtered down from broadcast cameras to POV cameras and camcorders (covered previously), the area of web streaming appliances has seen significant change over the last few years.

POV Cameras Camcorders and Web Broadcasting - The Tech You Need To Know About From CES 2016
EE's 4GEE Action Cam and JVC's very clever 4K GY-HM200SP.
From Sony's USTREAM-equipped Action Cams to the UK's EE mobile network's 4GEE Action Cam or JVC's GY-HM200SP Sports Production Streaming Camera, there are already many devices that allow you to film and live stream your footage directly to your audience.

Like Sony's Action Cams, EE's Action Cam is a camera plus smart remote setup, but as well as recording video to internal storage, the system also allows you to stream your video directly via EE's 4G network to a website. JVC's GY-HM200SP packs a 4K camera, live streaming and a live graphics overlay system into a single camera body. Initially, the camera will come with templates for soccer, football, volleyball and hockey, but updates will allow custom templates to be loaded and conceivably live timing data - via a feed from a smart device - could be integrated.

Even pairing your smartphone, tablet or webcam with a suitable app or desktop application can turn your device into a live streaming tool, and with service providers like YouTube, Facebook, Meerkat and Twitter - via Periscope - pushing the market towards more personal live broadcasting, the field is already filling up.

EE's 4GEE Action Cam is tied to a 4G cellular plan and is either free or costs £10 plus a monthly data subscription.
JVC's GY-HM200SP is shipping in late January 2016, costing $2,595.



CES 2016 saw a few new products on show, such as live streaming app MeVee, but most app-based tools are designed for short, quick clips, not watching an event. Enter Livestream's new Movi system, a camera for filming and editing live video in real-time. Equipped with a 4K sensor (what camera doesn't these days?), professional build quality and accessories, built-in microphones, electronic image stabilisation and a weather-proof design, all you need to do is pair it with an iPhone, add a web connection and you're in business. But hey, it's still just one camera...wrong!

Thanks to the 4K sensor, the single camera can recognise, isolate and motion-track subjects within the 4K image and create close-ups of multiple subjects and optionally cut between these and the original full frame, allowing you to manually or automatically produce a multi-camera-looking production from a single unit. If you subscribe to Livestream's hosting, you can send your broadcast live to your audience or if you're miles from any internet or cellular signal, you can record your production as-live onto SD cards for upload later.

At present, Movi only works with iPhones and only supports one camera - unlike Livestream's other hardware systems - but for semi-autonomous live filming and broadcasting from compact venues, Movi - currently priced at $200 for pre-order, rising to $400 once shipping - may be an ideal solution for you.


Livestream's Movi platform promises to give you multiple cameras in one tiny unit, with all the bells and whistles you might expect from a larger live production suite. An iPhone app controls the lot with almost effortless ease.



So you're all geared up now to launch your own version of RedBull TV, right? Well maybe...but here's a sneak peek into what they and other sports broadcasters such as ESPN are working on, streaming to a hyper-connected device near you soon.

Not content with getting into autonomous flight control software for drones, smart glasses and other wearables (more on that later), computing giants Intel have developed a fingernail-sized wireless, wearable sensor called Curie, which can be fixed to anything and anyone, allowing the chip to deliver valuable statistics and data back to base, to be integrated into the live feed you watch.

The soon to be publicly available chip (yes, really), will cost a rumoured $10 and each one will pack in a CPU, flash memory, a 6-axis combo accelerometer/gyroscopic sensor as well as a low energy Bluetooth module for real-time communications, requiring only a coin battery for power.

Currently, everyone from adventure sports athletes to Lady Gaga are testing them out, and whilst Lady G's on-stage repertoire doesn't yet include oppo cork 720s, if fixed to a rider's bike for example, in theory the chip could accurately measure and account for the forces and correctly identify tricks - as each trick will have a unique sensor profile - giving accurate feedback, whether riders are in active competition or during training.

With data flooding in from the chip relating to rotation, height, distance, speed and force on landing, Curie's potential applications are enormous, especially when paired with Intel's IQ software development kits.

The first high-profile use of Curie is expected to be seen at the Winter X Games in Aspen 2016, where ESPN will be trialling it during the Snowboard Slopestyle and Snowboard Big Air competitions, but Red Bull Media House are not far behind, hoping to integrate it into the content creation process, releasing a short video to demonstrate the chip's integration at the CES show.

Computing big dogs Intel have partnered with ESPN to bring you revolutionary new levels of data integration for the forthcoming X Games in Aspen.



Red Bull are also working with Intel to bring data-integration to their content.

Coming up next...Part 2: Photography, Videography and Smartphone Accessories.


About the Reviewer: Oli da Costa moved into video production and post-production 16 years ago, filming, editing and creating motion graphics for film, TV and online under his company, Fraktiv. In 2011, Oli co-founded geebeebee media, producing and filming content for Pinkbike, Crankworx and leading bike brands. Oli also advises international broadcasters on production equipment, editing techniques and workflow. Industry affiliations: Adobe Community Professional, Sony Independent Certified Expert


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77 Comments
  • 100 5
 I just don't see how the 360 degree cameras will catch on across the industry. The technology is incredible, that's for sure, but it's a little confusing to watch. It will definitely have it's uses, but I don't think that 360 video will ever be universal.
  • 42 2
 The distortion is awful, whats wrong with the 4k Wide angle we all love now
  • 21 11
 it sucks!!!!! no interest
  • 53 2
 Ideally you'd watch the video with something like an Oculus Rift headset. That way whichever direction you turn your head, you see a different view. Sony had a display at Interbike in 2014 that was actually pretty cool - I could see it as being a way to make an indoor spin session way more tolerable, or create a more immersive video experience. Imagine being able to film a ride, and then see what your buddies in front and behind you had been doing? It's not going to replace "traditional" video, but it's an interesting concept.
  • 14 1
 with some VR goggles you'd see why they are being developed.
  • 6 0
 My understanding is it isn't meant to be viewed as above - the viewer is supposed to be move their view around in the 360 environment while only seeing a normal wide angle shot in frame. I could be wrong though, I was once before.
  • 29 0
 God, I can't wait till in few years, on a rainy day I'll be able to just slap on a VR headset and live through Remy Metailler's laps in Whistler, Hunter's backcountry trips or someone hitting Rampage lines. BRING ON THE FUTURE.
  • 6 0
 I think many folks dont know that they can move the camera POV while watching the video. Granted it is distorted and a bit clunky but I think once polished this can be amazing. A Claudio clip of WC DH run and I can move the camera to see every aspect of the trail. Mid gap jump I can stop the video and look down at the gap. Look at the rider behind him. etc etc For an Enduro race someone posts the Stages on his bike and I can stop the video and check the features look at the surroundings and not be hindered by where the camera was pointing. Sign me up
  • 3 1
 If you haven't tried Google cardboard go out and get one. VR is the future for video content and gaming also. Oculus Rift, HTC Vive and Playstation VR all launching this year.
  • 2 0
 CES shows us Giroptic Spherical Screen which can be used to watch 360 videos)))

P.S. For years tech goes to flat TV screens... Now it's turn to opposite direction Smile
  • 3 2
 I want boost hubs before I want a 360x360 deg camera. Brutal.
  • 2 0
 The ultimate place for this technology? The next Polygon edit from Megavalanche. Sheer lunacy and ignorant destructive racing (awesome).
  • 4 0
 What this article doesn't tell you is that the CES show and AEE (Adult Entertainment Expo) generally hppen around the same time and until a few years ago the same week. This was not a coincidence, the adult industry has actually driven the development in consumer technology for a long time, several even credit the VHS as a direct result. My guess is that this is truly where the 360 degree cameras and VR goggles come into play. But hey Sony can't have the true reason on display at their corporate booth. But I guarantee that is whats going on. People on this website aren't going to spend 2000 quid on 3-D goggles, they are going to spend it on a new bike. Dudes who don't leave their parents basement are doing that kind of shit.
  • 2 0
 I agree with all that the 360 videos have to be viewed with Google Cardboard or better. The Shimano XTR 360 for example is just a run of the mill pov vid until you use it in VR; it then feels like you are riding along the camera user. Really cool stuff.
  • 1 0
 Maybe it will take time for 360 cams to gain popularity and be more appealing? When the initial go pro's came out I bet they weren't that great..?
  • 30 2
 Bah, just go ride your bike.
  • 35 8
 Buy a GoPro "often imitated never bettered"
  • 17 8
 Sony Action Cam. GoPro's are still definitely good, but I think Action Cam's are just as good. Also I feel like a gimbal is way way way better at capturing footage than any of those 360 degree cameras. More realistic as well.
  • 9 3
 Sony might be good, but nothing beats the Gopro's superview or footage stabilization
  • 6 1
 And no Protune (High bitrate RAW), which sets the GoPro apart the most from the rest when it comes to image quality.
  • 14 6
 I'm sorry gentlemen but I don't know what the hell are you on about.
GoPro's footage stabilization?....Gopro doesn't have stabilisation!
Protune? High bitrate RAW?....Protune is nothing more than a colour profile that makes colours pop a bit....it is quite unaccurate since it gives light blue colours a torquise tint....And there is no high bit rate and it certanly isn't raw....they are using the outdated AVCHD codec with 25Mb/s!

Sony on the other hand does have stabilization, it also has a vivid colour profile which is a LOT better than Protune....It can also record in XAVC-s codec with 50 or 100Mb/s (depending on the model)....

GoPro today is nothing more than a brand and quality advertising....
  • 1 2
 What?? Protune has the highest bit rate transfer that's ever been created! It has more amperatured outflow conversion than any other FOD mechanism out there.
  • 3 2
 Honestly, Gopro product is inferior on almost every aspect, even its form factor is disgusting..(The session is the first half decent design they come with). They have amazing marketing, sponsor the best athletes and produce great content, they were early enough on the market to get critical mass and being dominant. Same as Microsoft in the 90.s early 2000s, they are just the proof that people are sheeps.
  • 4 0
 AIOravecz - GoPro hero 4 black has a bitrate of 60Mb/s. Have you ever recorded something with protune?? It's a cineform codec so no it's not just a color profile. Not sure where you're getting your information but it's not from google.
  • 1 1
 Exactly … you can't even watch the Nikon's KeyMission 360
  • 1 0
 It's a well known fact that no one has successfully matched (let alone beat) overall video/image quality for GoPro.
  • 5 0
 Ok, so a couple of things to clear up here...

Sony Action Cams use Sony Exmor R sensors and glass Zeiss optics, GoPros use Ambarella sensors and as far as I know, their own-brand glass optics. Both use f/2.8 lenses.

Sony ACs shoot in either MP4 (Sony's standard H.264) or XAVC-S (Sony's modified H.264) whilst GoPros shoot in GoPro Cineform/VC-5 (Cineform's standard H.264) or GoPro Cineform/VC-5 with a ProTune profile (again, a Cineform-modified H.264 but this is NOT a RAW capture mode). Not all their respective models do it - far too hard to explain what each one does - but generally, the newer the model, the more formats it offers. GoPro's Cineform format is recognised as an "Open Standard for Video Acquisition and Post Production" by the board that governs TV and post-production standards. XAVC is also an acknowledged standard.

Sony ACs offer electronic image stabilisation on most models, GoPro have no image stabilisation in any mode on any model. The IS offered by Sony only works in some modes - notably NOT in 4K but in most HD modes - and is reported to be improved in the new HDR-AS50 model mentioned.

The 'standard' H.264 recorded by both is largely on a par as both Sony and Ambarella are top-end producers of the innards that sit in these devices, and on each, standard highly-compressed H.264 can be recorded on to fairly low-end microSD cards. XAVC-S on Sony ACs is a proprietary format (based on H.264), but allowing for data rates to be increased to 50mbps/6.25MB/s (100mbps/12.5MB/s on some models), offering a low-compression stream to be recorded. ProTune is GoPro's way of offering manual settings - white balance, standard or log colour, ISO, image sharpness, shutter and exposure - and also allowing a higher but variable data rate (lower compression) of the image, up to 35mbps/4.38MB/s. Both XAVC-S and ProTune were designed to allow shooters to capture footage with less artifacts, and for the formats to be used in more professional production environments, where footage may need to be graded or manipulated. If you know what you're doing with them, both XAVC-S and ProTune are powerful modes.

However, as XAVC-S records at up to 100mbps (around 3 times more data than ProTune), you need to use very fast, high capacity microSDXC cards, whereas lower-end microSDHC or microSDXC can be used in GoPro in ProTune mode with little problem. Both cameras can use lower-end cards to record 'standard' H.264 footage. Always check out reviews and manufacturer recommendations before buying though! We use Kingston SDCA3/64GB in our Sony ACs (at 100mbps) and SanDisk Extreme SDSQXNE-064G in our GoPro HERO 4 Black.

I use both Sony and GoPro and both have strengths and weaknesses...it just depends on what you're shooting, where, how and how you'll use the footage.
  • 1 0
 sooooo... um.... what about my samsung phone its a galaxy creme egg and has video on it. if i walk about its got a image stabiliser like when i walk about with a hot drink in a mug? is it as good as the sony and go pro???
  • 21 2
 seriously...looking on those 360° pictures, I cant see sh*t, I don`t even know where I suppose to be looking, and what exactly do I see
  • 4 0
 Click on the screen and you should be able to change the perspective.
  • 6 1
 It really only works well with VR headsets. This is very early stuff, but can you imagine a 360 live feed from the TOP 20 DH riders and you can look wherever you want with a VR headset? That might be a pretty sweet experience...

Personally I would love to see a mixture of live on board view and the current fixed camera view on Red Bull TV for the DH coverage. The live feed can kick in in all the places the fixed camera's are missing. That would kick ass!
  • 1 1
 I have been experimenting with 360 footage and "2d" footage, check this video www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BYFMD5emfk and my youtube channel www.youtube.com/channel/UCW8V7xQ-LpnWFcyvEEkHisQ
  • 19 5
 can we please kill off the 360 action cam movement before it starts.....
  • 4 0
 Just crush it with your 26" wheels broseidon!
  • 3 0
 Fair, i do rock a 26"er

Most people cant mount a gopro right to get any good footage. 360 camera will make people puke...
  • 13 0
 Most of this scares the crap out of me
  • 4 0
 Yes... What happened to just remembering an event? lol
  • 9 1
 360 is so 2015, I'm already riding a 360b.
  • 5 1
 Surely the bell 360fly helmet has the camera placed poorly? At that orientation the video will not show the rider at all? The pov shots I enjoy most are when I can see some part of the rider, bike or at least the helmet for reference. My money is on chest mounted gimbals for the best pov footage.
  • 4 0
 Well, yea. But a chest mounted gimbal is a little hard for a helmet maker to market.
  • 7 0
 you gotta get that dope footy
  • 7 2
 Now we really need 360 screens to cope With the cameras. Lets face it, although that was cool, the footage looked terrible.
  • 1 0
 I believe that the quality of even the entry level cameras are pretty good. Adding to this the mere fact that you are using your bike or head as the filming platform ,creates amazing angles and shots. But if you really want your shoot to look good you need an excellent editing programme .
  • 1 0
 If you never experienced 360 video with in a vr setting (even as simple as the youtube application on your phone) you won't get it. but it's a true game changer..
When you watch your ride in 360 (with a VR headset) it really feels like you are living it. If you tilt your head (or device) you can see our bike or the sky, you can look around, it really makes your brain feels you are on the bike, you have a better feel of the steepness and the terrain, you can scope some lines. Take a look at these videos: vrfactory.thenewburo.com ON YOUR PHONE and you'll understand what I mean. It's not a gimmick and now the go-pros feel obsolete!!
  • 1 0
 4k is great, but a lot of people cant even experience it because their screen doesn't have a high enough resolution. I have a canon 7d that i film in 1080@30fps in and it looks great. I personally would like to see more emphasis on frame rates as that makes a huge impact on video quality. even the jump from 30 to 60fps is magnificent. i'd love to see 120fps become standard.
  • 1 0
 Agreed on the 4K thing. We're lucky to have 4K monitors for editing here (but not TV yet), so unless you have 4K displays, you're missing out. 4K displays are getting a LOT cheaper though, and will likely be fairly standard as computer screens and TVs in a year or two. Unfortunately, manufacturers are unlikely to put greater emphasis on frame rates as pushing more pixels out at 4K in standard 24/25/29.97fps is much easier than pushing out doubled or even quadrupled frame rates...

1 sec of UHD (4K for TV) at 25fps = 207,360,000 pixels per second
1 sec of UHD (4K for TV) at 120fps = 995,328,000 pixels per second (nearly 5x as much data)

...for what most people see as a very small change to the overall image. Plus, upping frame rates would mean new cameras, new transmission standards and new generally new technology worldwide (all to handle 5x the data just for the existing image size), which is less likely to happen than the world going 4K, 8K or more. With all that said, there are less impediments to going 48/50/60fps-native for web broadcasting, as your ability to see it - if it's encoded and played back that way - are down to just your internet speed and monitor's refresh rate. YouTube already supports 60fps playback too.
  • 1 0
 I have done 3 different GoPro --- never had any problems with any of them

tried an Epic brand model which sucked --- video quality was ok but, buttons are difficult to use and the unit made some sort of strange video noise.. a chirping like an old cassette 8track tape with a noisy wheel (dating myself big-time) ...

I also have had the WASP brand -- I had problems with the first one but WASP replaced it right away.. and tossed in a bunch of free-bee's when they gave me a replacement --- it's ok, I like certain features about it. the hardware for mounting the camera is so-so ...I bought the little red gadget they sell so you can use GoPro hardware instead. my only complaint, the protective case chatters a lot so, with rumbling noise coming from the case is pretty loud in any video you capture.

GoPro has them all licked on video quality if you ask me.. steady cam feature is far better than other brands.. and they're pretty simple to use.

I just recently bought the Polaroid Cube... for $99, it ain't bad. I like some of the little hardware options they offer and you can get all sorts of GoPro hardware for it.. poke around, you can get knock-off GoPro hardware for a fraction of what GoPro prices are. I bought the protective case and the chasty-cam harness for the Cube for a whopping $18 --- seriously can't tell the difference between that and the GoPro stuff. I think the GoPro chesty cam is something ike $59 (??).
  • 2 1
 The 360 degree camera is going too far. The concept is great but it is too confusing and distorted for our viewing perspective. We shouldn't try to push the evolution envelope! Our eyes aren't meant to see 360!!
  • 1 0
 blahhh... soon gopro will do a 360 camera too, and crushes all competion once again... all of those brands, some of them giants in photography and video cameras, woke up too late!!
  • 2 0
 When will we see live drone footage at World Cups?
C'mon Redbull, the technology has been ready for ages
  • 4 0
 how about live helmetcam from the world cups!
  • 2 0
 Well yeah that too. They've had that in Supercross for a few years
  • 3 0
 We just need to start making tubular TVs
  • 1 0
 There is incredible camera technology that awaits us in 2016. I want a camera in the toe box of a mountain bike shoe. Would this catch on?
  • 1 0
 The nikon camera is 1 camera that can give you multiple angles to cut together as you wish. Also has the potential to have electronic gimbal mode.
  • 1 0
 looks like a good start on that kind of a camera but still needs some work. Nice looking Equipment.
  • 1 0
 I wish the Drift Innovation make a new models... To be honest I don't see 360 cameras so cool.
  • 2 0
 The only thing I'm missing while watching this 360 footage is more booze!
  • 2 0
 A POV camera is a must-have?
  • 2 0
 Wondering about the same thing there. Whether it's MTB, skiing/boarding, surfing, windsurfing - any adventure/action sport these days seems to almost require that people produce all sorts of footage. If you're a sponsored rider and you need to produce media to market yourself and create exposure for yourself and your sponsors, sure. If you're truly badass and worldclass, and you want to share your gift with the world to inspire aspiring shredders everywhere, sure. But then again, most POV cams I see on out there are used by people who do garden variety stuff - run of the mill riding/surfing/skiing/boarding/whatever. Maybe it's a generational thing and I'm just being an old fart (well, there surely is some of that going on, because I am an old fart...), but I just don't think anyone really needs to see footage of my epic two foot drop or my amazing, fully pinned run (at half the speed of those who actually know how to ride). To think that anyone wants to see intermediate riding on video seems like a fair bit of narcissism...

OK, is this when I rail about those damn kids and their f-ing selfie sticks?
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 True. But it's just the phrase "must-have", a helmet is a must-have.
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 Perfect description of what happened a few years ago. When gopro's really started getting upgraded (think HERO 2), everybody was getting them. Everybody was posting 8 minute long music edits of their vacation to Hawaii or boating trip. Then it died. I know lots of people that still regularly use their action cameras on the daily, but something has changed. Instead of taking high res video, it stills. Stills underwater waving hello. Stills with the gang riding through a dust cloud. They are half decently interesting photos to say "Look what we/I did" . They aren't so actiony any more. The edits are gone. I think it may be partly because they take alot of work, and people know that it really isn't that awsome.
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 @g-42 I think I love you!
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 I already know that I suck. I don't need a video to prove it!
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 The whole point of an action cam is to record the crashes so if you suck then there's even more reason to use one. I only ever look back at the footage when i've wiped out.
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 other subjet: Did Brandon semenuk make his Unreal run with a gopro ?? that's a video who would probably make pb explode
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 The "Selfie Generation" gone mad!!


Ya, Im guilty of a few selfies too...
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 Riding your bike is better than watching someone else or even your self, ride a bike.
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 That sony action cam looks like an awesome deal for $200!
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 didn't Shimano have a 360 cam coming out?
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 No money can not afford to buy
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 any idea on live video streaming with these?
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 The 360 camera makes me feel like I'm on acid!
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 Or you could just go for a ride?
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 More interested in the production of pilot less fallow drones
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 "not impressed"
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 Looks like a trek







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