On the surface, it's a pretty easy answer for most people when asked what bike they would choose if they had to pick one to ride for the rest of their life. It's probably the bike they have now that they ride the most, but think about it...it's for the
REST OF YOUR LIFE! That's a long time. Every single ride, every turn of the pedals you do, it's your bike forever. And there are no take-backs, borrowing from a friend, or using something different. This is it. You can replace drivetrain components as they wear and service suspension, but the bike and its overall spec must stay the same from here on out.
There are plenty of things to take into consideration when choosing your forever bike. Versatility is key, of course, and then there's durability. Is it practical? Will you move and have different trails to ride? Will you reach a point in life where you want to do things at a different pace? You may think you're going to be riding the bike park at 60 or 70 years old, but let's be real, the only people doing that are the true legends, and even they would probably not be choosing a DH bike if it was their only option.
So, what bike would you choose? It has to be one from the list here and it isn't a weird or custom build or a situation where you can swap out wheels and tires. It's a current year model, off the floor of the bike shop. You're just stuck with what you pick and you're forever going to run what you brung.
In the before times, a lower number head tube angle was considered relaxed, slower and/or laid back and a higher number head tube angle was considered aggressive and agile (like a fighter plane and not a cargo plane)
So I guess you would have to ride only on skinnies
So I think you're right here.
Otherwise you have a GI track issue.
Stop swallowing pennies and you should be good to go.
Agressive seems to be used in terms of the context it is applied too.
E.g. aggressive road race bike = shorter headtube longer toptube/reach stealer head angles and a slightly shorter wheelbase. This makes for a snappier handling bike that puts the rider in a more powerful more aero position. But you have to be well trained to sit in it for any length of time.
Agressive MTB = slack angles long reach, lower bottom brackets etc. for attacking harder terrain.
Agressive xc bikes are just confusing are we talking agressive for pedalling (like a road bike) or agressive for descending (like other MTBs).
Just the same as jeans.....
Time, if riding alone or with other emtb’s, is a non factor. Fatigue, long day at work, lack of sleep, being hungover, leg day at the gym, coming off a cocaine binge (j/k)....nothing will keep you from shredding!
So hot laps at your favorite dirt jumps or downhill course now require no walking back up.
“EBikes are the best thing to happen to mountain biking since....mountain biking”
-Rob “Lord” Warner
I just can’t do it. It’s not my sport. I’d MUCH rather get an enduro moto than an emtb anyways.
Back to the OP...my dad is 72 and rides my old 2010 spesh enduro with me sometimes, although he doesn’t really have it in him to do real rides with legit climbing, we still have a lot of fun. I’ve strongly been considering buying him an emtb, would really open up his world.
I have no idea what it feels like physically to be 72, but respect to OP for still banging out miles unassisted. My dad rides his other bikes to the beach and all around probably 3-5days a week, but he’d have to train super hard to clear most of our typical mtb loops...emtb for people like him is mint.
When I see other 30 somethings with them...I fill with vitriol...it’s elitist and silly, but that’s my gut reaction to them.
I’m a 45 year old with a family and my riding time is often limited. I use my KickR for fitness on top of weight training. I use my Slash for park riding or hanging with the family. The Rail comes out when my time is limited, when I simply want to ride a lot of trails or if I’m feeling sluggish for any number of reasons.
If I had a choice of only one bike, it would be an analog down country or trail bike. Fortunately I don’t have to make that sacrifice and can shred for pure pleasure on my Rail.
If Fitness is a main priority, don’t get an eBike. If fitness is way down on your “why I ride” list then an eBike starts making sense especially if it’s a second bike.
I think there are generally a few types of people that ride bikes:
People that suck. They are going to suck wether on a regular bike or ebike, road or mountain.
People that are ignorant. They will suck, but will learn and eventually be less so. Ebikes are an easy gateway for these types.
People who like riding bikes, but have little connection to their bikes. Blown shocks, squeaky or or dirty chains, etc. Probably do little to no work on the bikes themselves. Ebikes again will cater more to this crowd as well.
People where riding a bike creates a close personal connection between man and machine and what that machine allows the person to achieve both physically and emotionally. The person is in tune with this connection and therefor the bike is kept in tune as well. The goal is not more miles or more DH laps, the goal is to be using the bike, body, and mind as one.
P.S. I really have no issue with ebikes if the person understands proper riding etiquette, and has some underlying health issue, etc. But they are no longer biking, they are on a motorbike.
Go ride your bike for whatever reason gets you outside and enjoying life. People who don’t want to ride ebikes are welcome to do just that. Just quit throwing shade at those that choose a different path like you’re somehow better or pass some purity test.
It's an inherently buggered question. It's a question of horses for courses.
Where I live we have old mountain paths made by people walking between mountain villages hundreds of years ago. They are rough and rocky, wrecked and often steep.
I doubted on the travel issue because 160 on a 27.5" isn't the same as 160 on a 29" and 1º head angle can be worth 1cm of suspension travel, but your 130-150mm would not cut it here however big your wheels were or slack your head angle.
If you bicycle commute or ride on roads with any degree of frequency a hardtail/downcountry becomes a lot more appealing. An XC whippet around 20lbs can grind gravel like a muther and if the geo is capable they can handle most terrain outside of bike parks and BC.
Modern trail bikes will offer the broadest range of enjoyable riding of any type of bike available today.
While they aren't as good, I don't think they are as bad as you make them. Last week I rode my 160/135 Coil front and rear Stumpy with Minion DHF 2.5 from my house to the next town over's trails. This was roughly 12ish miles on a bike path. I thought I was going to be 30min plus in time from my road rides. I was within 5 minutes. 5 minutes is an eternity in a bike race, but when just riding its nothing.
Well, except that is sounds like it is enough to make people buy an ebike.
Don't know why it double posted. Probably cause I am an idiot
Whenever I borrow a full-suspension bike to use at our ski resort trails, I notice how much less beat-up I get in these two areas of my body.
Ah, aging.
51 and still prefer a Cotic BFe with 150mm Pike for most things.
All bikes make me feel my age these days..., and I've been riding LTHTs for over a decade, so I'd probably just stick to one of them if I had to choose. A new BFe Max would be lovely but my teenage kids don't leave the finances for that at the minute!!!!
I've had a number of ankle injuries and surgeries - from basketball and skateboarding accidents - so that's where the pain is based on. Too much metal in there!
I like a lot of things about riding a hardtail, but sometimes a little extra forgiveness would help.
Damn dude! Those are a little on the porky side. Not the best for anything tight at all.
300 2 smoker for the woods.
- I am Maku's dad
- no not really
- a handful?
- had to google it, looks like a session
Riding anything else with more travel when I’m old would probably suck.
Riding anything less right now would probably suck.
I wish it had more space for a large frame bag, and clearances for 275x3.2 (for sandy bikepacking). I also wish it were lighter.
I always lust after a Moots Mountaineer or Appleman Monstercross. Something versatile and super light, but then I get rowdy on my Trail Pistol and realize I don't think I could deal with a hardtail as my one bike. They just beat me up too much.
Something like a Nicolai Saturn 11 "Plus" with big clearances would be rad, but made in the USA. Maybe out of titanium or carbon. 26lbs would be acceptable. Burly enough to get rowdy, light enough to ride all day. Throw in some wheel size options. Yea, I could deal with that bike for the rest of my life.
I'm turning 60 and this week I'm picking up a 130 travel trail bike, with 150 fork. The group I ride with are mostly older than me, and a hell of a lot fitter. The bike of choice, by a huge margin, is the Trance 29er. No enduro bikes, no hardtails.
If you use a bike to commute 200km per week, for general transport, to have fun on mellow trails in the winter and also hit the Shore and Whistler in the summer, surely the only bike that will do all of those reasonably well (OK, won't absolutely suck at any of them) is a 130mm, averagely-geo'd, 29" hardtail with ~2.4" semi-aggressive tires?
Does fackin everythin i enjoy about riding.
Job done.
my favorite bike in the quiver, but most versatile. 26x4” fat, 27.5x3” plus & 29x2.3 if I choose so- all w/ same
hub spacing and fork. Literally a Swiss Army knife...
With XTR and Carbon frame, handlebar, seat, and wheels my bike is 26.1 lbs with pedals and sealant.
This can do days in the park (swapping to bigger nobbier tires), do some aggressive trail riding, hang on the XC trails or do those long epic ride days.
One bike that does it all and I'm happy with it.
If only one fork but mullet & over-forking is in, then 130 27.5 rear with 150-160 29 front is the king
Currently building one frameset up with all the best / most Gucci parts, mullet style.
It should be sub 27lbs (12.25kg), may end up weighing 26.5lbs (12kg)... maybe less. It's a pretty ridiculous build.
So that's my choice.
So I really doubt that young people are forward thinking enough to want an ebike before they need it and I doubt this site is full of geezers, so it must just be the way of the world; more couch potatoes.
I’d be really interesting to break out ebikes by country.
I would rather dumb down my climbing than ride an ebike ... and that’s with a Pivot Shuttle parked in our garage; it’s my wife’s bike.
Long travel dropper. Very light but also very strong... They used to make bikes like these in the past: the bottlerocket, dmr bolt, corsair konig.... A fun machine...Like an all around 4x full suspension bike but with all the new improvements in geo, materials and kinematics. What's similar nowadays? A 5010 maybe?
29" inch or 29/27.5 mix will be best choice for anyone
as you can see in tab that is true!
Ebike are future if you don’t like em go ride a stinking horse haha.
But I don't think my wife is ever gonna believe it
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So despite the hate, If you are truly a mountain biker that likes to shred with the fast crew, but your 60 and they're 30.....E-Bikes all the way. I know there are some older dudes (and dude-ettes) that are really damn fast still, but I'm talking average people here.
On a side note, I don't have an E-bike and I don't plan to get one in the next 5 years, but I do recognize that it will be an inevitable transition if I want to keep riding at the same level into my late 50's, 60's...and beyond. There's a lot of years left to ride after retirement, and I'm planning to spend that time ripping it up as best as possible, using the best tools available to me at the time. That will be a full suspension E-Bike
Not wanting to pedal much @ 70yrs old.
Ill have to go with the motorbike, so hate away......
Pinkbike: Hold my pivot bearings.
WIDEANGLE for everything!!!!
It’s hard as f*ck, and I’m an expert muni rider.