The State of Oregon has no sales tax, which is one reason why so many people call the state home. But that may change, at least for bicycle buyers. The Oregon state legislature recently pushed through a massive (for Oregon) tax measure that raises fees on automobile registrations, taxes, fuel, and charges bicycle retailers a 15-dollar tax on every bicycle they sell with a sticker price over $200, and 26-inch or larger wheels. E-bikes will be taxed one-half percent of their selling price. The bill sailed through both houses and is now on the Governor Kate Brown's desk, who is expected to happily sign it into law.
By government estimates, the bill will shake down the citizens of Oregon for a whopping 5.3 billion dollars for transportation spending, with bicycle retailers getting squeezed for an estimated 1.2 million per year which by far, is the tiniest slice of the pie. According to the State of Oregon, the bicycle tax will be earmarked for infrastructure like bike ways and pedestrian paths. No mention was made, however, about off-road trails.
Predictably, Oregon's cycling community is up in arms about being dinged 15 bucks on a one-time purchase, and there can be no doubt that, if the Beaver State is successful, greedy governments throughout the USA will follow suit. As usual, however, there are two sides to the issue. How often do we fly the "Share the Road" flag without any consideration for sharing the costs to maintain them?
Gasoline taxes in California alone are the equivalent of driving down the freeway and tossing $2.25 out the window every 60 minutes. Count cars on the road and you may arrive at the conclusion, that Oregon's fifteen buck a bike tax is a ceremonial levy to assure automobile-driving taxpayers who will be doing the heavy lifting (and the heavy using), that cyclists are finally raising money instead of awareness.
The sweet lemonade that could pour forth from Oregon's bike tax may be that off-road cyclists will be able to leverage their contributions to pressure lawmakers to fund mountain bike trails. The tax does not discriminate between mountain or road bikes and so far, the revenue is set to be spent on paved improvements. Armed with the numbers, Oregon's mountain bike community may be a be able to make a good case to squeeze some trail funding from the state's coffers. Portland would be a great place to begin - where mountain bikers have traditionally been given the short end of the stick.
Time will tell if taxation leads to greater representation for Oregon's mountain bikers.
If they plan to raise $5.3 billion from the 4 million people that live in Oregon, then that's more than $1300 per person!?!?
I would much rather see the state impose a "I just moved here from California, and want to screw up the real estate market" tax!
"A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have."- Gerald Ford
These funds will go into the general fund to pay for a small fraction of the unfunded liabilities (retiring state employees) they will need to pay for and illegal immigrant legal fees and freebies.
The problem with liberals is they eventually run out of other peoples money and begin feeding off themselves.
California will be filing BK in less than 10years. Illinois is very soon.
We will start by oulawing any Priuses, Subaru's or Teslas from crossing. I'm pretty sure you stop those vehicles and you've filtered out the trash.
I drive a Subaru. And I've taken it up montana passes in the winter that aren't maintained. I've taken it up trails that I've seen heels turned around on. I've camped in it, I've shuttled laps with friends with it, ive used it and abused it. I've parked next to sparkly, chromed up, blinked up pickups in Idaho while my subarus been so caked in mud you wouldn't have a clue what color it is underneath.
Don't mock the humble Subaru. Ive been politely waved down more dirt roads in Idaho, montana, and Wyoming than I can count.
true story bro
This is a false narrative. Relatively few of your tax dollars are going to "the lazy." As an example, food assistance and unemployment is less than 5% of the federal budget.
Its frustrating to constantly see people complain that a tiny fraction of their taxes are "unfairly" going to "lazy" people via programs like providing food to poor children, but rarely seem to complain about the ultra-wealthy paying absurdly low federal tax rates.
Seriously, you want a legit example of unfairness? Hedge fund managers are taxed at a fixed 15% federal rate on their income. That benefits .01% of our population, so why aren't 99% of us angry about it? Even you, as a 1%-er making $800k/yr, should be angry about that.
I came up with $800k income based on this:
1) he says his state took in $1B in marijuana tax last year. So must be either WA or CO
2) it can't be WA since WA has no income tax so he wouldn't be paying anything to state via paycheck
3) CO has a flat rate of 4.6% income tax . . . so >$800k income to yield $40k state tax.
And that means he must be in CO and making >$800k/yr. Or he's misleading us about his tax payments.
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@Rider656: I pay $100k in taxes from my check and 40K in property tax just to pick up the slack for your laziness. Not fair.
Edit:I see now LuvAZ was quoting off of someone else... my bad. Still rider656 has something going good...lol
And... www.oregonlive.com/politics/index.ssf/2017/06/you_might_soon_pay_tolls_to_dr.html
Sorry to bust your envy bubble, but a lot of high end buyers buy components and roll their own. As written, this tax will not touch people who do that.
This tax is a charade. If you want to collect a fee to use a recreation area with developed infrastructure, fine. Oregon has a Ski Park system and I never had a problem buying a pass. All the money goes to keep parking plowed and for porta loos at XC ski trails.
Same thing for XC bike trails? Not a problem. This tax is not that.
I'm not sure I agree with the threshold of the tax and the fact that direct sales aren't included in this (had this discussion with my brother in-law who works in the bike industry here in Oregon).
I'd like to see it on say $400.00 / $500.00 and above as their price point targets those that are struggling to make it as it is and probably buying a Walmart bike.
As an asides, have you been to Alsea Falls yet? The Corvallis IMBA chapter is partnered with BLM and they are jointly developing that area and will be into it with over 20 miles of trails when the project is complete (two more shuttle days coming soon too *August and in September I'm told*)
I couldn't agree with you more... In Utah our moron of a governor has this vision of making Salt Lake City and the Wasatch Front the new Los Angeles. People are moving here from California in droves and it seems like 90% of them are taking up mountain biking as a hobby. Sure, its good for our economy but it is hell on our infrastructure (including our recreation). Soon enough Utah will be paying a bicycle tax to fund the 3 new freeways we need to build thanks to Gov. Herbert's genius idea...
Educate yourself before making absurd comments, you friggen jerry.
I hate a lot of things about CA. but people moving to Oregon is not the source of your problems. I would start by changing your attitude, that chip on your shoulder is holding you back.
I used to live in Alsea. There were bicycle and motorcycle trails all over the hills. I have ridden a trail from my house outside of Alsea to the falls many times. It has the possibility to be a world class riding area.
When I lived there the trails were all unofficial and all user maintained. Starker Forests used to be very good about allowing recreation on their lands as long as you registered with them and didn't tear up the area. Their web site says that Mtb riding is a permitted activity.
You are literally the worst kind of person.
Dont sit there and judge people you've never seen even riding a bike. Thats the typical Utah MTB'er attitude right there. And thats exactly why I stopped hanging out with douchebag riders like you, and why I focus on riding with my family and enjoying the sport.
I'm not judging you based on your riding. I'm judging you based on your shitty gaper opinion that's trashing newer people getting into the sport when self admittedly, you've only recently started MTBing.
"Wahh mtbing here is too popular because of all the city folk moving here and picking up riding! I mean who do they think they are? Me 5 years ago?! Why can't people stop riding as soon as I started so it wouldn't be so popular!"
OK, really people..... You all mention about using this tax for mountain bike trails, are you REALLY serious??? Do you see gas taxes being used for developing 4 wheeling trails for trucks??? NOT!!!! and that money never was, nor ever will be used for that. Just like this tax money on bikes....it will be used to make you all safer on roads that were designed for cars and trucks and semi trucks. Little whites lines to make bike lanes on our poorly designed road infrastructures, will NOT keep you safe no matter who's fault it is or was, in a accident between you and your bike, you will always loose and most likely be hurt very badly or die. If you want to go out on mountain trails, do so at your own risk. Or here is an idea, get off your cheap cheap mind thoughts, raise money and buy your own d\land to do that stuff on, then when it's not right you can get in a fight with yourself as you look in the mirror. So quit being so dang cheap, I mean you all spend 15 bucks for a couple glasses of wine at your "Biking events", only to piss it out later, so quit grumbling and step up to the plate and help pave the way for safer biking.
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Completely irrelevant to this article, but I just love the fact that chocolate cake is tax exempt in Britain.
25.5". Super light. Very playful. Superb handling. Coming January 2018. Also 25.5" will only be compatible with 145x12.5 half-boost hubs and the new PF69.5 bottom bracket
If I lived in an area where I didn't have to pay a tax for something of course I would resist it, but realize what you have and if that's what it's going to take to maintain it, then be open minded about it.
"Take it from someone with initmate experience with these fees. As soon as the legislature feels the pinch, they take earmarked money and shove it in the general fund. The earmarked part is used to sell you on a new tax, that is all.”
California: Hold my Gluten-Free, Vegan, Kombucha
“Bikes don’t pay for the roads.” You see it again and again. It appears on editorial pages, in blog comments, and shouted from car windows, often accompanied by the accusation: “Freeloader!” or something ruder.
The bicycle freeloader myth is a strong and pervasive economic belief. It’s implied in rules that require cyclists to stay off certain roads, or ride in a manner that does not affect car traffic. And it’s enforced through media headlines, police standards, and the behavior and discourse of cycling advocates and detractors alike.
But is it true?
When you take a trip on a bicycle, you do not pay for gas, and thus you pay no gas tax. You do not stop and pay tolls (and you are generally not allowed on toll roads). You do not pay a license or registration fee, part of which goes toward paving, maintaining, and policing the roads you ride on. Most car insurance companies do not cover bicyclists, so often you do not pay for that either. And you do not pay for parking. No doubt this all seems terribly unfair.
Of course, though there are many people out there who solely get around carfree, chances are good that any given person out riding a bicycle on the road also owns a car, or rents one from time to time. When they do so, they pay all the same fees, fines, and taxes as an everyday motorist does, and just as grudgingly.
But here’s the thing: Cars don’t pay for roads, either.
The idea that roads are funded by user fees paid by people who drive is one of the great myths that buttresses our entire way of life. While the veneer on that myth has been crumbling for some time, we have only recently been forced to begin to look hard at it. And the difference between riding a bicycle and driving a car is surprisingly vast – but not in the way most of us imagine.
What if I told you that by driving a car you become a freeloader, a drain on the economy? That people who bicycle instead are subsidizing a road system that they are largely not welcome on? In order to break even on the cost of roads and pay for every driver who uses them each year, we would need 54% of commuters using a bicycle as their sole means of transportation.
It’s not great news for most people. After all, driving a car is extremely expensive; and if you live in the US a car may be your best bet or only way to get to work and otherwise go about your life. Unfortunately, it is also true. Driving is one of the most heavily subsidized things we do on a daily basis.
Cars pay for about half of the cost of our roads, all told. That’s it. Half.
So where does the rest of the funding come from for all that asphalt? We all pay it – whether or not we drive.
Most of what we pay for the roads is not paid directly, but through our taxes. Every time we pay sales tax on a purchase, property tax on our homes (directly, or indirectly through our rent), or income tax on what we earn, a portion of that goes directly into our transportation system.
A portion of all these taxes are paid into a general fund, which is where most transportation money comes from. But the real costs of building roads end up being much higher over the years than what the budget can afford. A growing amount of road costs are paid for with borrowed money. We must eventually pay off these loans through our taxes, with interest that can amount to two, three, or more times the original cost of the project.
Worse, this funding gap increases every year. With the economy dragging, we drive less, and as fuel and material costs rise, construction grows more expensive.
Roads are enormously expensive to build and maintain. If you look only at the highway system, the user fees paid by drivers come much closer to paying for them than half, though the system still operates at a loss. But if you look at local roads, on which most of our daily travel happens, the gap is even wider. The cost to maintain local roads is, on average, more than 6 cents per mile for each car each year. How much of this do drivers actually pay? Less than a penny. What does this mean for bicycling? While people do not pay to ride bicycles on the road, bicycling also costs almost nothing – less than 1% of money spent on transportation infrastructure goes to anything bike-related, and bicycles do not contribute significantly to other road-related expenses like potholes, crashes, or congestion.
People who ride bicycles also pay taxes, which means they often pay more into the road system than they cost it. By one estimate, a carfree cyclist would overpay by an average of $250 a year – a few dollars more than the amount the average driver underpays. While cyclists represent all income levels more or less equally, the half who ride for transportation alone and do not own cars are on the lower end of the income spectrum. For them this is the very definition of a regressive tax – like the lottery, a program by which the poor subsidize the better-off.
By that measure, to pay for the cost of keeping one driver on the road, you need someone else who is not driving – that is, paying taxes but putting minimal wear and tear on the system. But two thirds of people in the US drive and most of the rest travel in cars and on buses as passengers. It’s a recipe for debt, yet there is a constant demand for more roads to be built so that more of us can drive farther and more often.
Despite a growing number of bicycles on the roads, there are not nearly enough to balance out this equation. But even if motorists were to double the fees they pay – and if those fees were indexed to inflation – it would still not be enough. Our road system is in bad shape, and we have not been able to spend nearly enough on it in the last decade to keep it even in minimally good working order.
That’s just the beginning of the story, though. Roads, economically unsustainable in their own right, result in towering externalities, costs or benefits attributed and paid for elsewhere, indirectly. When you take these costs into account – from health to safety to local economies to global energy – by the most conservative estimate, the cost to keep each car on the road is 30 times the cost of each bicycle.
Yet not a month goes by without some clever politician deciding that the best way out of our transportation funding crisis is to license and register bicyclists. Every year it is up to weary bicycle advocates to do the math once again to show that there is no way for such a scheme to break even on its administrative costs, never mind the cost of accommodating a sudden increase in cars on the road and passengers on transit.
The humble bicycle, long a scapegoat, may yet prove our salvation from a transportation system running at a deficit. This is not so far-fetched as it may seem at first glance.
Take Copenhagen, where forty years ago the incursion of cars and roads looked very similar to that in today’s US cities. But today, 84% of the city’s residents regularly ride bicycles. Each mile traveled on a bike earns the city, by one analysis, 42 cents. That same mile driven in a car costs the city 20 cents. Bicycling rates there have begun to decline in recent years, and city leaders are scrambling to make bikeways more comfortable and convenient. They know they can’t afford not to.
In the US, we can’t afford not to either, but it’s harder for us to see – bicycling hasn’t grown into normalcy in the same way. But when you consider that almost 70% of our car trips are under two miles – a forty minute walk or a twelve minute bicycle ride – change seems more feasible. More than two thirds of people in the US say that they wish they bicycled more often, and an increasing number are doing so. The barriers are real, but can be overcome cheaply and quickly. And the benefits multiply and spread into every aspect of our economy and our lives.
Which is way more then bikes pay.
If a larger percentage of riders were using their bikes to ride to work they would have a stronger argument. For now a small one time tax on a new purchase for recreation is a small price to pay to live in one of the coolest places/states in the world.
Wouldnt it be more sensible to give a small tax relief on commuting cycles below a certain value (above a certain level they are just a luxury good) to encourage people to ride to work and also provide updated infastructure at no cost to the cyclist.
On a slightly different note - I wonder how bat-shit mental people in the USA will go when the reality that you wont be able to get a new petrol/diesel car 30 years from now hits?
10-40% fed income
7% sales
5% property
6-2% health insurance
0-13% state income
Total tax 28-71%
50k 52%
100k 60%
200k 70%
How much tax do you pay in other countries? ALL taxes you can think of!!!
Note the health care "tax" here I count as 6% based on a middle aged person making 50k. It's about 3k per year for the crappiest gov plan. I use averages for property tax. If you live in the middle of nowhere here your tax could be almost zero. Or if you live in a big city it would be very high like 10%.
Speaking in broad terms when it comes to large nations is foolish. Right now our Rob Ford's are in ascendency and yours aren't. The idea that our entire country had been subverted to these is ideals is naive.
In other words, the people who currently put almost all of the wear and tear on the roads we ride on are currently paying the SAME AMOUNT as the people who hardly put any wear and tear on them (us bicyclists). Check out your city's annual paving budget and tell me what that means to you. Hint: it's in the millions.
Cyclists are ALREADY paying an unfair share for the roads we ride on, it's not the other way around.
In the end we are all using these services so what does it matter? If you want to charge fairly then any vehicle over X pounds should be charged tolls via GPS. It would be an insane rate, but it would appropriately cause efficiencies in the market place to happen. It would change how we move and deliver things, it would make the economy more efficient. Rather than subsidizing delivering a tiny lightweight box via a 8000 pound truck and tearing the crap out of our roads. We would get it a more efficient way.
1. Mountain bikes, by definition, do not need maintained roads to ride, so this is irrelevant on pinkbike.
2. Drivers don't share the road very well anyways, so why does it matter?
3. Bikes aren't even allowed on highways.
4. How many people who commute on bikes ACTUALLY don't drive cars as well?
5. If anything, bicycles should have tax credits, not tax deductions. What tf kind of incentive is this shit?
www.cyclescheme.co.uk
I hate politicians. Who else gets paid to sit around and dream up ways to make things worse?
Seems there is a little more power in place in the food / gun / church lobbys than the cyclists, eh?
We are not all born equal and in no way was my statement smug or condesecending unless you think that the points I am making are not true in any way?
I think the GP post's main point is still valid though. Taxation, even a tiny amount like this, discourages the behaviour being charged. It's unlikely we don't all agree that the world needs more bikes and riders, not less.
...with the exception of bearded hipsters riding single speeds. If this tax gets just one off the roads I'll label it a success!
And no, college education isn't needed to understand basic nutrition but I didn't mean that by the term education - many people lack the basic understanding of what is acceptable to eat regularly, that's why so many are obese to the point of ruining lives.
Adding a tax to unhealthy food isn't going to cause less "financially fortunate"/ educated people to seek healthier alternatives. They're poor for a reason and it's probably not because they're good decision makers. I'm not saying that just to be a dick, I grew up surrounded by poverty, I know how it works.
Talking about growing up in poverty - snap. I witnessed parents giving 50p to their child and sending the to the local corner shop to get dinner, which was then a few bags of crisps. When the parents cooked it wasnt much better, a 'farm foods' pizza at ÂŁ1.00 or cheap beef burgers or similar.
Dont you actually sell mcdonalds and similar foods in your schools in the USA?! Utterly mental, kids are not going to think of nutrition, just what tastes better to them.
I know it is unfair to penalise the many for what is considered the few that abuse themselves with too much junk but with projections that half of the uk will be obese (yes obese, not overweight - a danger to health) by 2030 maybe it is more than the minority that are beginning to abuse their body with junk?
Anything that is harmful if consumed on a regular basis needs to have a deterrant in place to prevent its abuse - Or the other 50% of society will have a very rough ride trying to pay for all of that healthcare the people with obesity and its related illnesses will require (diabetes, heart disease etc etc)
Have you considered the idea that maybe homelessness, addiction and crime are symptoms of deeper societal problems and perhaps not caused by the existence of light rail?
I happen to appreciate his commentary, now I know where not to buy tools in the future.
And just when I thought you couldn't be any more stupid
I'd be willing to bet you a new Nomad that 'most' homeless folks are due to mental illness or physical disability.
Jesus Christ I weep for the future of my intellectual country.
Those battling mental illness need help, and those with drug addictions need help, the difference being that the addict needs to be the one to initiate the change. Otherwise, it's wasted resources trying to reform an addict that isn't ready to change--and some never do, unfortunately. The mentally ill need access to group homes and medication/counseling.
Those who are homeless by circumstance are trying to recover and get off the street. Medical bills, lost a roommate and can't afford rent, lost a job, etc. This was me. Being homeless is an absolute chore, and quite boring. It's ok for about 2 weeks and then I was over it. Luckily, for those that want help (food, shelter, job placement assistance) you can track down access in most decent sized cities easily. Find work, pay bills, save money and then get a place to live again...it can be done.
Lastly, there are those homeless by choice. It's a lifestyle. Most are crafty enough to have a friend that will let them borrow an address, get an EBT card, etc. but make no mistake, they believe they are 'beating the system' or somehow 'escaping the chains of society' (while befitting from the programs set up by it).
So you guys are both right, just neither completely so. There's probably more homeless people on that train trying to stay warm than you think, it's just that some of them aren't drug addicts with major mental issues, so you wouldn't notice that they are indeed homeless. Does that excuse the behavior of some homeless folks? Not at all. We all have our own issues--and you can't control how I handle mine, I can't control how you handle yours... some people are much better about it than others, but that doesn't mean the walking shitshows get a free pass to do as they please. In short, people can be dicks, and inconsiderate of the space that they share with others. It's just easier not to give a f*ck when you're hanging onto that bottom rung of the ladder.
Lastly, if you want to help, donate to a food bank or shelter. Or, buy a cup of coffee for someone. Giving money to people on the street usually serves to enable their current life choices.
Oh.... and the 300+ NGO 501c scammers sucking donation money for a career of making victims of them all.
Don't get me going.
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I call BS on your whole story here. You cannot achieve what you say and be that detached from reality. I'm Done. Good luck to you.
You're only 31, hopefully you realize there's more to life than money and possessions. Props for working hard, but trying to rub it in people's faces how superior you are will make you no friends.
I'm 32, have zero assets and zero properties, married for 1yr, and my wife makes 3x what I do. But I have lots of mountain bikes, so I'm happy =)
My career choice I will brag about shamelessly though. I may spend as much time working as I do but the people I work with are like family and we have an awesome time doing it so it's literally a dream job playing all the time. Plus prior to it I'd been in California, Oregon and Washington.
Ive got three bikes in a sense... darkside with rear end flipped in the high position and a 6" for trail/all mountain, flip the chips to low and throw the 8" Fork on for DH and bike park then my ole hardtail XC racing bike from 02.
Blissful isn't it?
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Governments don't have a spending problem, they have a revenue problem.
Funding shortfalls just get pushed down to the local level.
Walmart and such sells their crap and no tax! If they just taxed bikes below $200 they would collect a lot more money.
But we don't want to cut into Big box stores profit, let's just cut
into bike retailers profit some more. Disgusting display I can't even put into words how "uncool" Oregon has become. I used to be proud to live here... No more..
"29er rims have a diameter of approximately 622 millimeters (24.5 in) and the average 29" mountain bike tire is (in ISO notation) 59-622 - corresponding to an outside diameter of about 29.15 inches (740 mm)."
Shocking.
So before you tell me to pay my fair share for the privilege to ride my bike on a road why don't you raise the sin tax on tobacco once again or jack me another nickle on a six-pack.
On a lighter note, the Huffy Carnage 3.0 ... a bike whose very name describes what will happen to the rider if the bike is used on real MTB trails.
Solution? Drive to a nearby state and buy your bike there. F*** Oregon. same with California. Absolute worst politicians in the entire country. We all know that the $$$ from this will NEVER ever be put into trails, or multi use trails, or whatever else they say it will be put in for. It's going to go into Pensions that the stupid state can't afford to fund. Downrate me all you want but thats the truth. We all know how "straight" politicians are. Anyone that believes this will go to "what its intended" has wool over their eyes, and is just as corrupt as the POS politicians they elected into those offices.
I feel bad for those of you who live up there.
...and give even MORE money to the govt, awesome idea dumbass. You'd have to go to AK, MT, CT, or NH to pay less - a flat $15 on a $2k bike is a 0.75% effective tax rate. You'd pay around 4x as much where you live - are you raging against the machine every time you buy anything?
I feel bad for those of you who live down there.
Here in CO they said taxes on pot would go to schools and local govts. Guess what? It went to schools and local govts. Find something else to be angry about. Plenty of taxes do exactly what they were supposed to do. Maybe it won't go to trails, but dedicated money for bike infrastructure improvements in cities would be great.
Money is fungible. It moves freely... Will the million or so be an increase in spending? Duuuuurrrrrrr? And as for bicycles "paying a fair share", last time I looked road construction comes from three places:
1) Gasoline taxes.
2) Trucking ton mile fees.
3) General tax revenue. That is income, sales, and property taxes.
When I buy my bike bits online, I am paying the second. Because I don't want my house taken away and I don't want to wind up in prison. I pay the third. When I happen to drive a (pardon my language) "car", I pay the first. Bikes add almost no wear to roadways. Bike paths are there for car drivers: I can ride in the lane.
By the way, we have some nice recreational facilities near where I live that were built and maintained by volunteers. What a concept!
In most cities the existing infrastructure was not designed with bikes in mind. Changing that takes money, and if non-cyclist voters have the options: (a) take fungible tax money to add bike infrastructure or (b) use fungible tax money to fill the potholes and widen the highways, which option do you think they'll choose?
Yep, some recreational areas are maintained by volunteers. Some others are protected by govt regulations and maintained by a mix of govt funded professionals and volunteers. Still others are maintained using money from private companies, paid in exchange for access to the natural resources in those areas. Shockingly, there are even for-profit recreation areas where people PAY to have fun!!!!!! Again, mindblowing stuff. It's almost as if there's no one-size-fits-all economic model for recreation, or anything else.
The government of the State of Oregon is corrupt and dysfunctional. The former governor resigned in disgrace when it was discovered that his GF was "consulting" on "solar energy" projects. The history of Mayors in Portland is a colorful list of WTF.
This is just a clumsy attempt to increase taxes. Period. Years ago they instituted a "Snow Park Permit" to park at ski resorts that the state plowed. Fair enough. And the fee was designed to collect the actual cost. Build facilities bicyclists want and charge to use them? Not a problem.
But remember that "bike lanes" are built for car drivers. I can ride on the road without any problem. I can't keep track of the number of times people pass me and cut me off when I am riding at or above the speed limit.
The good news is that the law puts this tax on bicycles with "wheels" 26 inches or greater in diameter. I have a lot of bicycles, and not a one of them has a WHEEL that large. A 29'er is normally about 25 inches in diameter. If I was still living there it would not apply to me because I don't but bicycles. I buy frames, forks, wheels, brakes... Yup, the folks who wrote that tax were not very bright.
Honestly, we all can say "It's only 15 bucks" , but we also know that nothing will change and they'll come back to us again trying to pick our pockets, because it's never enough if you can't spend what you have wisely.
Coming up next. "The Shoe Tax"
Cry me a river.
You should really do some research before you ignorantly pop off like that; and realize the transportation fund is paid for not only by automobiles and gas tax'/ but also by other taxpayer funding, which we are already paying into with our tax dollars, fedral funding, and efforts to NOT be part of the problem of traffic, emmisons, dangerous driving, parking etc. by using a humble and sustainable alternative, the bike.
Furthermore, your enphacis on directing tax dollars towards building mountain bike trails is illcontrived. If there is anywhere such levied funds should be spend it is clearly on making our state safer and more accessible for bicyclist; rather than building some (lame) public trails for the affluent mountain bikers to ride.
once again RC, your out of line.
I hate taxes like everyone else but if this happens here, i'll be the first to shove it down drivers throats the fact that we indeed do pay our share.
There's ALOT more to this and I could write a novel on this subject but you get the point.
I could also write a novel on all the a*sholes that gave me a hard time while on my road bike.
Thanks for the link.
We are all on two wheels & should have each others backs......at least that's how I feel.
1. Mountain bikes, by definition, do not need maintained roads to ride, so this is irrelevant on pinkbike.
2. Drivers don't share the road very well anyways, so why does it matter?
3. Bikes aren't even allowed on highways.
4. How many people who commute on bikes ACTUALLY don't drive cars as well?
5. If anything, bicycles should have tax credits, not tax deductions. What tf kind of incentive is this shit?" ... like in what world is it reasonable to give a Tesla CAR a $7,500 tax CREDIT, when the switch from an electric car to no car is 2x that of switching from a gas car to an electric car, in tCO2e? (See link)
m.phys.org/news/2017-07-effective-individual-tackle-climate-discussed.html
Just looked into this ... there's gotta be a new federal tax credit that is similar to this older one:
www.irs.gov/irb/2009-30_IRB/ar07.html
Utah passed a law here a few years ago that a cyclist could go thru a red light if the light didn't change because it didn't pick up the bike. You would of thought they were cancelling Christmas or something, the uproar was a joke.
Seeing that I try to commute a few times a week to work, I don't have a problem with it.
I see your spin on the situation.
It gives people who ride to work or for recreation more leverage for advocacy.
My gas pays for these roads is innacurate as all tax monies go into the general coffiers .
The 15$ tax gives us legitamacy to share the road /trails.
"without any consideration for sharing the costs to maintain them"
@RichardCunningham
The taxation is theft crowd really has no F'in clue how much work is involved in making a society function.
You cryasses claim your being raked over the coals then when your gubmint funded infrastructure and society has financial woes you blame it on gubmint, the people just trying to do their job.
How about you get the people that can afford lobbyists to pay their fair share of taxes?
Governement waste is far greater than I ever assumed it was. IMO 3/4 of every dollar spent at government level is wasted money with no return on the investment. The more we can reduce it's size the better.
But sure.
PS, sounds like you rode unicorns to work everyday too. (I call BS)
That's the issue