Mountain Lion Shot & Killed After Stalking Family on California Trail

Jan 14, 2021
by James Smurthwaite  
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The section of the El Dorado trail where the lion was shot. Photo El Dorado Sheriff's Office

A mountain lion has been shot and killed after it was reported stalking a family on a cycling trail near Placerville in Northern California.

A couple called 911 and reported they had been followed by a cougar for 10 minutes on the El Dorado trail, a 32-mile trail that links Placerville to Folsom. The couple were walking along the trail with two children in a stroller and two large dogs.

The lion did not retreat when shouted at by the family, other trail users or by a deputy who responded to the call. The lion was pacing back and forth on the trail when the deputy arrived but after he shouted it started walking towards him instead of running away as a normal healthy mountain lion would.

According to a Facebook post from the El Dorado Sheriff's Office, "In a last effort to scare the animal away, the deputy fired a warning shot into the ground in front of the lion. The lion continued in its path toward the deputy, further showing that it was not well and dangerous to the public. The deputy had no option other than to put down the animal."

Only one lion was observed during the incident and it has now been taken by the California Department of Fish and Wildlife for further study. The post also stated that "It is important to note that mountain lions live throughout El Dorado County and should be allowed to live undisturbed."

Mountain lion attacks remain extremely rare and there have only been seven fatal attacks in the United States since 1994. The only one in Northern California was on a trail near Auburn about 20 miles from the site of Monday’s incident.

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  • 922 12
 I was stalked by a cougar once. In the end she went back to her husband and all was well.
  • 34 11
 And we have a winner!
  • 6 9
 Good one! Smile
  • 20 20
 You won the internet today
  • 13 5
 You have to raise your hands and scream “back of cougar”. Unfortunately Whistler center is notorious for cougars and incidents do occur
  • 6 1
 Did she bit you? Smile
  • 1 1
 Nice!!!!!
  • 55 3
 My cougar experience was VERY positive.
  • 2 3
 You sure it wasn’t a vulture? Smile
  • 49 3
 In cougar attacks like this, don't run. Its best to avoid angering the beast and precipitating an attack. Its best to submit, let the cougar do what it will (it may take some time), and allow them to go away once they are bored with you. You can then regale your comrades with your harrowing tale.
  • 39 3
 Similar story for me, but very different ending. Ended up marrying the cougar.
  • 17 18
 @JSTootell: hiv positive??
  • 35 4
 @mick06: Can't test positive if you don't get tested!
  • 9 0
 @bombdabass: I was also attacked by a cougar. It was on Vancouver Island just outside a local bar with some alcohol involved. Although I was mauled quite a bit, it was mostly just some scratches and pride I lost. Not sure, but the cougar was never to be seen again...
  • 15 4
 Gees so many downvotes for a hiv joke and southpark reference. Ill have to invest in a dad jokes book to get some love on here
  • 8 0
 @mick06: if you have to explain your joke....
  • 3 1
 @mick06: My favorite color is Ham.
  • 8 0
 @vp27: I think a lot of the "older" cougar attacks go unreported, especially when a lot of alcohol was consumed
  • 4 0
 @mick06: its because you didn't say "im not just positive, im HIV positive"
  • 3 11
flag YoKev (Jan 14, 2021 at 23:06) (Below Threshold)
 @vp27:
Thanks professor science, but screaming at a predatory animal shows fear. Women with male kids and metro-sexuals might be predisposed to screaming, but for the rest of us SHOUTING at the animal while making yourself look bigger-standing your bike up in front of you- is your best bet. Even better, having a K-bar handy for when the lion who knows his business jumps on your back from above, and stabbing/slashing at his throat/neck area (it's gonna be closest since he'll have his ginsu knife set clamped down around your neck) as violently and quickly as possible. If you're successful with this, the last thing left to do is to drag the carcass to your friendly neighborhood taxidermist so you have something to scare the kids with when they won't go to sleep at night
  • 1 2
 @SlodownU: Once they are bored with you? You mean once it’s finished gnawing the meat from my bones and bored of dragging my bones around the mountainside!? Hahaha!!
  • 6 0
 Thank God that story had a happy ending.
  • 1 1
 I don’t get it?
  • 1 0
 You could have kept her as a pet.
  • 118 0
 Man, that "trail" is a better surface than the "roads" that lead to my house
  • 45 2
 this is a very Irish comment
  • 27 0
 I could Tarmac it for you if you like? Eek
  • 11 7
 @Dropthedebt: telling an Irishman you can Tarmac his drive is a little ironic!
  • 15 1
 @ompete: wow, now you've explained it... Rolleyes
  • 1 0
 It's smoother than a lot of the roads you take to get to the creek trail, that's for sure.
  • 1 0
 Well, in many of these locations near National Forests, they will have a "trail" that is handicap accessible. I never been to this location, so I can't say that's the case here.
  • 2 0
 The trail starts as a paved trail, then turns into single/double track falong an old railroad tracks. Only like 3-4 miles are paved.

But you're right the pavement is super nice!
  • 83 0
 Steve French just wanted to be a part of the family, they didn’t have to shoot him.
  • 23 0
 Big stoned kitty.
  • 14 0
 Deeeeeecent!
  • 2 0
 'The Devil' Ste French?
  • 1 0
 @cains08: hahahaa 'rattling the cage' ????????????
  • 5 0
 Yeah, just needed to ween him off the dope
  • 1 0
 underrated comment
  • 67 3
 Well, Belgium had one wolf a few months ago, until it was ran over. We would be happy to have the terrain and space to accomodate a mountain lion.
  • 30 0
 Poor lion. Next to the some of the animals you keep in Brussels he wouldn't stand a chance..
  • 10 1
 It doesn’t take as much room as people think sometimes. You’re welcome to come pick one up!
  • 3 0
 and a Lynx not so long ago...
  • 1 0
 @pakleni: this a van damn reference?
  • 60 4
 Lots of animal behavioural experts in the Pinkbike comment section.
  • 262 1
 You ain't lion.
  • 77 0
 @bishopsmike: that's the mane reason people comment
  • 34 2
 I could bearly wait to reply.
  • 76 0
 Don't hurt my felines.
  • 29 0
 @rodeoJ: I just hope they come to the root claws of the issue
  • 7 1
 @sewer-rat: manly manners it’s not a main thing in Maine
  • 53 2
 People should have the correct koalafications
  • 20 0
 Just roaring with laughter at that one
  • 34 0
 Sounds like they avoided a catastrophe
  • 9 1
 Paws for though.
  • 6 0
 @lehott: Don't joke about Drop Bears. They will tear your face off.
  • 4 1
 @jptothetree: Am I the only one who read that as "...drop bars. They will tear your face off" ?
  • 15 0
 Are you kitten me??!
  • 8 0
 @jptothetree: He'll rip your lungs out, Jim
  • 4 0
 @bishopsmike: these comments are furmidable . Purrrfect start to the day!
  • 3 0
 Purrfect response.
  • 8 0
 @stainerdome: this better stop right meow!!
  • 6 28
flag garrettstories FL (Jan 14, 2021 at 7:51) (Below Threshold)
 Who wouldn't be stressed and "not well" in this environment. COVID, the mob attacking the Capitol and democratic process, and the outgoing president that stoked that fire.
  • 10 28
flag TotalAmateur (Jan 14, 2021 at 8:03) (Below Threshold)
 @garrettstories: cracks me up how much people want to blame the president for everything people do. does this mean everything that happens during Bidens intrepid administration will be directly attributable to him either instigating or failing to act? All of the race riots that happened during Obamas time, totally Obamas fault. Did he speak out against them? Yes, but still his fault. (that's your logic rn, be better. its 2021)
  • 5 0
 We all became experts after Lion King.
  • 13 0
 @stainerdome: these cat puns are freaking meowt.
  • 8 0
 Kitty kitty bang bang
  • 1 0
 @ceecee: this the real mvp
  • 3 3
 @stainerdome: ...right meow?
  • 4 0
 This thread is feline like it's going down the rabbit hole.
  • 2 0
 This is the purrfect thread.
  • 2 1
 Cat-astrophic for the cougar, it was simply feline ill....
  • 2 0
 Little Lion Man really f***ed it up this time.
  • 51 6
 While I'd definitely agree that people have a tendency to shoot things, I guess it's really easy for everyone to criticise from the armchair. I'd be curious on people's actual reactions if they saw a predator close to their children.
  • 26 27
 The problem is too much population growth and outdoor activities are growing, not only since corona plus we want 100% security in every aspect of life, especially when it comes to children you can't argue against it. So in the end there will always be someone who wants to kill those animals. And in the end we only gonna watch them in a Zoo. Yet it's totally irrational compared to other risks like a car crash. In europe people go crazy about some sheep that got killed by wolves and bears and demand that the population gets eradicated.
  • 2 0
 Tonight on Dateline we investigate... Close Up Cougars.
  • 14 2
 @tabletop84: while I don't think you're wrong, per se, I think you're using extreme situations to argue against something much simpler.
People are outdoors with children and a predator approached. This can happen with our without overpopulation, with too many or with too few predatory animals. I'm not even making any stand on these topics.
Just that any dad/mom that sees a predator close to a small child is likely to have a strong reaction, and people like to judge
  • 22 2
 It seems like fish and wildlife highlighted that the mountain lion wasn’t acting normally. Regardless if it is sickness or reduced habitat, once their instinct has them viewing humans as prey they have to go.

It happens in Washington state a fair amount with farmers protecting livestock.
  • 8 36
flag tabletop84 (Jan 14, 2021 at 6:44) (Below Threshold)
 @Arierep: But that these species are almost universally affected by habitat loss is a simple fact. Like I said: when you're braking it down to a individual situation were there is just the slightest possibility arises that children are in danger the animals have to be killed. And that's the problem. That's always the argument from the people who want to get the tiny wolf and bear populations in europe gone. The big one in romania is also loosing their habitat through illegal logging. And the report doesn't read like anyone was in immediate danger. The family made the mistake of bringing along dogs which you shouldn't do in an area we're wou might encounter predators. And the cop was just trigger happy as always.
  • 31 5
 @tabletop84: thanks for today's edition of "Person who has no actual experience with something looking down on people who were actually there"!

California has no shortage of mountain lions.
  • 11 7
 @texag: California also has no shortage of people. Although covid is trying to fix that.
  • 7 0
 @onemind123: pinkbike has a eugenics broh now
  • 2 0
 @Dropthedebt: Weekly special this week an in depth investigation into the little know vancouver sub species of cougar the Roxie
Next week whistler sub species the Garfunkle
  • 1 2
 @texag: well I hiked and biked in Romania and Trentino were the biggest bear population in Europe is. There were some attacks around my stay but I didn't feel anxious or demanded that the bears be shot because it would be irrational to do so when it's more likely to die in a car crash or get hurt on the trails by a crash.
  • 4 0
 @tabletop84: pretty sure you would have had a different view if you had a run in with a bear who would not scare away and wanted to eat you.

Or maybe you would have given the bear your life so they could grow up big and strong. I doubt that.
  • 3 0
 @tabletop84: Cool. I've been feet from black bears while elk hunting. Bears aren't mountain lions, as they're usually happy to live mainly off plants with the occasional deer or elk fawn, and animals who are actively stalking and show no fear of humans get killed before they hurt/kill a human being.

Did you actually see a bear when you were in that area? I haven't seen anybody saying all bears or lions need to be shot because they may be dangerous, but it is normal to kill bears or lions (bears are usually relocated multiple times and it's usually for getting into garbage or homes) once they've shown no fear of humans.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, I would've let the lion eat me too. Definitely wouldn't have shot the animal to save my life and the lives of others. Like, what??? What other action would you propose in that situation?
  • 1 5
flag tabletop84 (Jan 16, 2021 at 3:50) (Below Threshold)
 @Shafferd912:

What about turning around and walking away?

The article doesn't sound like there was a imminent life-or death situation. The family called a ranger who probably took at least half an hour to get up to that remote area. And then the dude decided to kill the animal as a trigger happy precaucious matter that we all know from that police cam videos.

You guys blow the danger potential of these animals out of proportion. In 100 years there have been 27 deadly attacks in north america. That's literally nothing.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_cougar_attacks_in_North_America
  • 2 0
 @tabletop84: I'll stand behind you while you talk to the kitty and politely ask him to stop following families with little children.

When you convince him or her that they are a bad kitty and should go hunt their natural prey I will believe in your method and no longer think non endangered animals acting dangerously can be saved.
  • 1 0
 @tabletop84: Ah, yes, the ol' "turn your back on an ambush predator that's been following you" defense.

You are correct that mountain lions account for a TINY amount of attacks/fatalities with humans. However, if you ever visit lion country, do yourself a favor and read up on what to do if you encounter one, because what you just said is the EXACT opposite oh how to handle it.
  • 2 1
 @tabletop84: this is late because I haven’t been on PB in a while. I can tell you don’t live anywhere near these lions. Mountain lions will follow you for a very long time. From what it sounds like, this family was trying to put distance between them and the lion and it wasn’t working. (Another thing to add. Having even 1 dog would completely scare off a lion. 2 large dogs? Forget it.) That lion was acting very strange, and I’m glad it was put down.
  • 51 16
 Wow how many of you have actually been in this situation? None I’m sure! I guarantee most would do the same thing. Pretty standard comments from the current crop of sissies who judge from behind a keyboard
  • 44 0
 At least those people can boop a mountain lion on the nose with their keyboard to scare it away if one shows up.
  • 8 57
flag Monkeyass (Jan 14, 2021 at 5:02) (Below Threshold)
 I guess people perhaps find it at odds with their current world view that a member of a rare and endangered species is shot to potentially protect some folks from 'merica. Just another view point, 20-40k mountain lion vs 330 million?
  • 25 0
 @Monkeyass:
What is the better option in that situation? Let the cougar maul the officer and eat him? I hate the idea of killing the cougar but if it’s me or the cat...
  • 70 1
 @Monkeyass: I seriously hope that if you're ever faced with a predatory animal you do the right thing and take one for the team
  • 21 2
 I have had 13 cougar encounters. I'm still alive and I have never carried a gun, nor feel the need to. By the report provided, it sounds like law enforcement took an appropriate approach and the lion was not right. I almost guarantee the report will come back that it was a juvenile on its own for the first time or elderly (either way HUNGRY) and not able to hunt normal prey. I'm not going into the entire lifecycles of cougars, but they replace each other as one's territory opens up.
  • 13 0
 @Monkeyass: Yes. If faced with a choice between any human's life and an animal's life, you should definitely choose the animal? You had a 50/50 chance and you blew it.
  • 5 3
 All my mountain lion and bear encounters (that I know of) went like this:

They spotted me, they ran away.
  • 6 0
 @JDFF: because of all the fires in CA. Cougars are in bad shape from displacement also rodenticide, and fire retardant poisoning. Cougars have been wandering in Santa Cruz recently, down from the mtn areas and are not healthy.
  • 1 0
 I've been eyed by 2 and they walked away. One was with 2 cubs. One of the few times in my life I've been genuinely scared. Think of how bad a house cat can F you up, then imagine that house cat now weighs 40lbs and is the size of a healthy labrador
  • 6 0
 @Monkeyass: I was going to respond to your comment but your PB handle cleared things up.
  • 2 1
 @Monkeyass: your perspective would change right quick if you were in the same spot as these folks. Would you have sat down and reasoned with the cougar? Perhaps given it a hug?
  • 5 5
 I’ve actually have been face to face with a cougar. I shot it with my bow and now it sits on my wall.
  • 3 11
flag Monkeyass (Jan 14, 2021 at 10:40) (Below Threshold)
 My word! Where to start? Maybe a lesson in irony? Self awareness? Potentially self depreciation...but i think thats a bit far
  • 2 0
 I actually have been in close encounters with cougars on two occasions. Could have shot them both, but I’m glad that I didn’t
  • 4 0
 @UtahBikeMike: 40 pounds would be a very hungry (fully grown) mountain lion. I have seen a healthy male that was 150 pounds (which is only in the middle of the typical range) and it's paw size was impressive. Definitely not something I'd want to tangle with!
  • 2 0
 @Bushmaster123: that makes sense.
  • 2 1
 That how to do it!@oregontradesman:
  • 2 0
 I have. We rode up on a momma cougar with a cub. Scary as F^&K! We backed off immediately and pushed back up the trail. Luckily she didn't come after us and it ended well. Probably the most terrifying thing I have encountered.
  • 43 13
 Mountain lions partner and 3 small children are devastated. Apparently that's the same route they always used to get home from a day doing lion stuff. Calls from local wildlife to defund the El Dorado Sheriff Dept. and a candle lit, all inclusive vigil will be held later tonight. Several animals that witnessed the shooting have claimed the lion was in its own back garden at the time. A local Eagle said tensions are high and expected a long night of trash can destruction.
  • 5 1
 Any updates? I can't handle the tension.
  • 8 2
 @noisette:
I can provide an "on the scene" update as the protests, following the tragic killing of an unarmed lion, are starting to get wild.
Earlier I saw animals of all species come together to paws and remember their fallen comrade. It was as this vigil was taking place that Animal Patrol & reinforcements of Park Rangers moved on the crowd using bear spray and "snatch crates" to detain and remove the "mostly peaceful but firey" protesters.
It's been several hours since that flash point. Several hours that have seen a large number of Racoons, Bears & Elk occupying the Town Hall demanding and end to to enforced relocation, destruction of habit & Pic-a-nic basket confiscation.
As night falls here, tensions are rising and more animal continue to flock to the area and I fear things, in this otherwise peaceful town, can only get worse.
Here's Tom with the weather...
  • 2 0
 Animals who know the lion have added that the lion aggressively stalking a family was the best and most caring lion to ever walk the earth.
  • 1 0
 @Mr-Monterey:
That is a fact which have managed to verify via our "unknown sources" & embedded reporters with those affiliated with "Animal Iustitiae Nunc" movement, currently holding strong in the Town Hall.
A needless death of a vegan father of 3 cubs...
Next tonight on Animal News Network,
"Inside the Hive - is your honeycomb communist?"
  • 23 1
 It is sad but also probably harder for us Brits to understand as we don't have that kind of wildlife. I was lucky enough to spend some time in BC Canada and when out walking in the hills and forests saw many bears and heard reports of cougars. Only a certain amount of people are allowed on specific trails at any one time. Camping is strictly at allocated sites. This is all done to keep the wildlife safe and to keep it wild. Most wild animals run for it when a human comes along. If they don't then they're most likely confident they can eat you or are so hungry they're willing to take the risk. You can imagine the hunt and slaughter there would be if an animal did attack a human as well. It's a pity there wasn't time to tranquillise the lion and find out what was wrong, but I guess if this lion wasn't running when a shot was fired there wasn't much option.
  • 164 0
 Don't have that type of wildlife?! Are you crazy? The other day I was out riding and I saw the most vicious of all animals - a rabbit. It had a vicious streak a mile wide and big pointy teeth. I had to kill it with a holy hand grenade.
  • 32 0
 @bigtim: Are there some who call you.... Tim?
  • 26 0
 @bigtim: turns out it was only a shrubbery
  • 7 0
 Chris, you want to see the size of yo bigg momma wild boars in the FoD. When they have piglets you give them the same respect as a lion or bear...
  • 38 0
 @bigtim: And the Lord spake, saying, First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin. Then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out! Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it.
  • 7 0
 @danimaniac: One... two... five...
  • 7 0
 @bigtim: Three, sir.
  • 2 0
 Once animals like this start to stalk humans, they'll keep on doing it. It's pretty normal practice all over North America to put these kinds of animals down, unfortunately.
  • 1 0
 @bigtim: you're lucky, I had to cut down a tree with a herring.
  • 1 0
 Yup, it's a rather humbling experience to be sharing the outdoors with other creatures that could easily kill us. I have bears walking down my street a couple of times a year, and there are lots of cougars in the forest nearby (although you almost never see them). Give them their space and they usually stay clear.
  • 1 0
 @Skooks: you usually never see a cougar in front of you . They always come from behind which is the most terrifying part
  • 25 2
 A friendly reminder that of those instagram clips you see if people flirting with bears, the bear likely gets shot by rangers soon after. Don't fuck with animals, you'll fuck their shit without knowing it.
  • 17 1
 crazy to read this today...we have mountain lion encounters on our property a few times a year and I had one this morning. I heard my dog down the hill barking aggressively so I ran down towards the commotion. The barking stopped and I kept running towards where last heard him barking. The cat intersected my path 30' in front of me and turned towards me and I stopped dead. I yelled at it a few times and it didn't budge. I fired into the dirt and it ran off. My dog had circled back to the house and is fine. I love the mountain lions. I love seeing them. They are amazing animals. I respect them and their land and never want to shoot one, but I am prepared to defend my animals and myself if and when they get aggressive.
  • 6 1
 Used to deal with them every once in a while, going after our goats and sheep. Once they find that super easy, tasty food, they can’t be relocated. They’ll just go find another ranch. Lots of people being sensitive in this thread about an animal they’ve probably never encountered or dealt with...
I also love seeing them, at a comfortable distance where I have time to draw on it if necessary. I’ve dealt with one where I woke it up by accident, while it was taking a nap in the sun. Not so fun to see unexpectedly two feet in front of you, glad it chose flight instead of fight.
  • 3 0
 @mountainyj: Ya this one is enticed by our goats...a larger one got two of them last year and this one got some of our chickens not too long ago. Sometimes our donkey runs 'em off but today our dogs found it first. I can't imagine being two feet away from one in a situation where you both are surprised. I'm happy for ya that it chose flight instead of fight.
  • 2 0
 @otterdirt: Closest I ever came to shooting one was as it jumped over the fence with one of our goats in its mouth, dark night and I was on our porch with a rifle. was in and out of the light so fast. DOW came and got it on our neighbors property, napping after eating our nice little goat. We would have given it the billy we had at the time, haha. The one I woke up is probably the most terrifying animal experience I've had. Felt like I was being stocked the entire way back to my truck.
  • 2 0
 @mountainyj: I've had that thought...Why didn't ya take that one haha. Man it's crazy what they can carry. On my way back to the house yesterday, I kept looking over my shoulder...it was a long walk haha. Stay safe out there.
  • 15 0
 In the words of Southpark: "It's Coming Right At Me!"
  • 13 2
 Something wrong with that lion, glad they put if down! You don't see lions they see you! There is plenty of food in that forest, this is not normal behavior. I have land in northern cali and sometimes at night you can hear their scream/bark, gives you chills. Only saw one once in person over 15 years, it jumped over a 20ft road and was gone in seconds ????
  • 3 8
flag blackthorne (Jan 14, 2021 at 12:49) (Below Threshold)
 Maybe ask why something was wrong with it? Habitat destruction, pesticides? In the end of the day humans invade their space then kill it claiming it was self defense.
  • 4 1
 @blackthorne: Hello fellow invader!
  • 11 0
 The biggest animal that I’ve seen in “the wilderness” in the uk was a fat cow that stunk of sh*t
  • 14 1
 BoJo ?
  • 5 14
flag billbobaggins468 FL (Jan 14, 2021 at 4:44) (Below Threshold)
 @frix182: yeah mounting Tangerine Trump, MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • 8 0
 Normally in the UK they're called Chavs...
  • 3 0
 yes, Swansea is like that.
  • 1 0
 Lots of jugs of milk but no jugs for MILFs
  • 5 0
 @billbobaggins468: must be a relative of the bison we've recently seen at the Capitol Hill...
  • 13 1
 Holy crap, PB comment section hit a new moron record
  • 11 0
 Has it really? Pretty close to par I think.
  • 14 3
 Sad
  • 5 0
 A lady in my neighbourhood would run with her dog every day and return to the back yard. A cougar figured out this pattern and waited in the yard one day and scooped up the dog. A couple people have ridden into cougar deer kill sites right on top of the trails. Also one day a lady was walking on the boardwalk and a cougar was laying there in the sun. Just cougar things
  • 4 0
 Just chiming in really quick. I lived in Placerville and for context if that photo is the area where the mountain lion was shot and killed, it's actually really inside the city. It's sits right behind the In n Out, Walmart, and highway 50. While it's fairly common to run into bears in El Dorado County, for a mountain lion to wander that far into town is highly unusual. The trail is more of a paved trail than anything.
  • 2 0
 Poor creatures have been having a hard time with all the wildfires in Norcal last year. Lots of sightings of malnourished and confused Lions in Santa Cruz and area. Really sad. The population is pretty strong and resilient overall.
  • 4 0
 Everywhere else in the world: "Australia is SO dangerous. All the animals there want to kill you".

Australians: "Yes, our animals are deadly, but only crocs and sharks will eat you. The rest of the deadly animals will leave a corpse. So unless you are cycling in a river in far north Queensland or the Northern Territory, or in any of the oceans, you will be found"

Rest of the world: "But you sre still dead.

Australians: "True, but least you wont become bear, wolf, cougar, or mountain lion $h!t."
  • 1 0
 Those Dingos of yours like a bit of homosapien now and again...
  • 2 0
 Cougars and mountain lions are the same thing. Here in BC everything is the foothills of their territory and personally I'd be quite nervous about being out in the hills after dusk. Just outside Vancouver I saw what must have been a full grown male cross the road in a single bound. Absolutely terrifying. Black bears don't tend to be an issue unless you get close to their cubs. Met my first one last year and it had a quick look then ran off into the bushes. Still a huge animal you wouldn't want to mess with. Grizzlies are another story. They'll come tear you in half just for fun. Good idea to have bear spray if you're in grizzly country. I don't think too many people are worried about your crocodiles. Spiders that would fall in the same weight class as you on the other hand....
  • 2 0
 @Dropthedebt: A dingo took my baby!
  • 1 0
 @friendlyfoe: Bear spray. What water bottle cages are really for!
  • 1 0
 @Stoaks: allegedly... Eek
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 The odd thing is this is a fairly populated area. The cat traveled far out of the hills to get there. It was definitely hungry.
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 Not that weird. Cougars have become wildly overpopulated in rural areas ever since hunting mountain lions was banned. This has decimated deer populations in rural CA. Now the only deer you see are near people, and then mountain lions are starting to starve and come close to people to find food. The ban on hunting was originally supposed to just be a ban on hunting them with dogs. But hunter supporting legislators wouldn't agree to it so the other side put it on the ballot as a ban on all cougar hunting and won. Instead of a functional compromise, we have lions causing trouble and no hunting. If the state allowed some cougar hunting, cougars would stay away from people again. End rant.
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 I had a close call with a mother and it's cub a few months back. I was riding down a fire road just after sunset and about 25 or 30 ft away there was a small cub about the size of a house cat and it's mom who I didn't see very well but my adrenaline kicked in almost immediately and I think I had my fastest time on that trail. luckily they didn't seem to care but I was scared sh*less. I'm also a short teen and mountain lions are one of my biggest fears.
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 The news seems pretty strange as reported.. The behavior of the lion totally unusual Maybe a sick animal with rabosy could act like that..
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 I'm not a wildlife biologist ..but was going to say the same.


Ambush predators rely on stealth....this guy was having some problems if he was mingling w. humans like that. & If it did it once, it will probably do it again. It's easy to see why they unfortunately had to destroy the animal.
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 This bike path is also highly used and connects some small towns together from Diamond Springs to Camino. Most of the bike path goes right by homes, and I believe the section shown in the photo is close to Camino, meaning it runs right below the loud highway. No normal mountain lion would have stayed that close to a highway for long. I could understand this incident more if it was out on the dirt section of the El Dorado Trail, much further in the countryside, but there aren't any families out there, just bikes.
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 @Mr-Horse: Agree, as Stanley Park now has coyotes aggressively chasing joggers, probably due to uninformed people feeding wild animals. I have been followed 3x by a cougar, but none attacked. They are curious animals, but when they do not run even when fired at, that is a big problem that unfortunately needs to be addressed. A healthy cougar will not try and attack people, especially when a gun is fired. I hate hearing that an amazing predator like a cougar has been shot and this should be avoided at all costs, however, once a cougar (probably injured or a juveinile) shows no sign of fear and starts hunting people, they will continue to do this and it must be stopped ASAP. BC (Vancouver island) has many cougars, so someone's earlier comment about leaving your dogs at home is ridiculous. Dogs love to go for long walks, and if well trained they will stay by your side and even alert you of a wild predator that is close by. In the past my Blue Heeler(s) have warned me (in Squamish) and eventually the cougar(s) stopped trailing me due to my dogs aggressive and protective nature (+ I made a lot of noise sounding like I am the predator). We can all live on this earth together in harmony, but not if a wild predator starts hunting humans. If you encounter a cougar, never run and show fear + try and make yourself look as big as possible and make lots of noise...
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 @Mr-Horse: destroy the animal
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 I live in the area and can tell you a few things. First, this isn't exactly a mtb trail, more of a paved walking trail. I point this out because a mountain lion getting this close to a high traffic area is different than running across one in the wild. Second, the homeless population in the area is pretty significant, so who know what kind of stuff that animal could have gotten into. Third, while I've had my issues with El Dorado County sheriff's, they don't have any history of being fast and loose with shooting things. A friend of our just had a baby and walks on that path. If I heard a wild animal was stalking them I would do the same thing.
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 It says right in the article that it wasn’t showing normal mountain lion behaviour, it was sick and unpredictable
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 Sick or hungry?
  • 5 1
 Came here for the cougar comments and was disappointed.
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 After this last year in america, im Feeling team wildlife. Maybe if AI decides to team up with wildlife shit can get interesting and humans can find something to come together over...
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 I've never killed a mountain lions with my bare hands, but I've choked a few cougars. That counts, right?
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 Only in jail.
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 He just wanted to say hello and taste the back of your neck, that's all. What a nice kitty.
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 Cougars and bears , they are waiting in the forest . Waiting to snack on unsuspecting mountain bikers. This is the time to take up Road riding! Much safer.
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 This is where I live, and why I always carry a gun when mountain biking or dirt biking around here.
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 That ought to teach those other mountain lions what's in store for em should they try any funny business! This is our Forest ya hear? Aint no room for lions and wildlife carrying on like that
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 slow news day?
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 How sad. Sounds like it was necessary though.
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 Not sure the commenters from a continent who spent the last 2,000 years hunting majority of their vertebrate animals to extinction gets a say on morality or justness here...
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 But yet we hear tales of morality, justice and The Pursuit of Happiness eminating from across the pond...
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 Bad mr kitty, bad! No that's a bad mr kitty!
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 CLM: Cougars lives matter.

What next, burn down a few trees, harass a bush. Maybe roll some boulders down a hill

Ex-game ranger here. Taught that if you are out in the bush walking and come across lions, stand your ground, shout and make yourself intimidating. Don’t run, you become prey. My first encounter was terrifying. I could feel my legs wanting to run. Luckily mr kitty cat didn’t meet my .308 and wandered off into the bush.
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 Once say a mountain lion in Penasquitos Canyon, but was quite a few years ago?
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 pretty sure Kat Williams has a bit about this...
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 Stalking usually ends badly.
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 LOL a lot of you sound exactly like the crowd that critiques us in law enforcement every time there is someone shot during an encounter/incident.

Sit down. Shut up. And let the professionals handle it.
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 poor lion man..... they should have something to scare him instead of just feel attack and get an animal killed ....
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 I hope that family gets the ‘rona for getting a kitty killed for feeding. I bet their toddlers crocs made squeaking noises and the cat just wanted a look
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 Real class act, may we wish the same for you and your family.
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 The Lynx effect. This joke may only work on people from the uk
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 Was the lion instructed to go back to her babies?
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 Sadly, the mountain lion doesn’t benefit from the California laws. RIP.
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 Sad storey honestly , reduced pray and wild areas , shame we don't take the same approach with certain people , the prisons wouldn't be as crowded and the lions would have more space.
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 I think that they should have used a tranquilizer. No need to kill a mountain lion when there's another option.
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 Almost ran into a 6ft joey that wouldn't back down one time... didn't think to call in the cops to shoot it, guess there's always next time
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 Didn't you punch it in the face?
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 @pbuser2299: his pig dog was safe at home, so no need for fisticuffs.
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 let the Lion eat!
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 That is a shame.....
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 so what were their “large dogs” doing during the incident?
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 Not surprised it isn't well after being shot.
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 Meanwhile in Australia a man was bitten by a bull shark in the swan river. The water police are NOT hot on the case...
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 And first recorded shark attack in that river in over 50 years. But in Australia, "everything is out to kill you".

And the water police couldnt find water in the middle of the ocean (at least in QLD anyway, couldnt even locate a 20' cruiser on a river)
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 @constantly-broken:

Yeah true, I guess my point was nobody freaked about it as old mate was in the water and knew the risk. If you are out there, be aware. Also, my bike hurts me regularly and that’s a risk I take. Same same

And the shark wasn’t drinking mid strength while swimming that’s why the water police couldn’t be arsed finding him
  • 5 8
 Seems the Deputay got a little Tigger Happy
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 There are many reasons I'm a little sad this got downvoted.
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 @iamamodel: I appreciate your appreciation.
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