Production Privee Sponsors The Brigade Team for 2021 with New Downhill Bike

Jan 19, 2021
by thebrigadeteam  
Production Priv e Group B DH prototype

Press Release: The Brigade


It's something we've secretly been working away on over the past year. A project so big it has been difficult to keep a secret, and news so exciting we can't sit on it for any longer.

For 2021 The Brigade Team will be racing the Downhill World Cup season on a completely new chassis designed, developed and manufactured in Andorra by Production Privée at the Forestal Technology Centre. Yes, you read that correctly, those purveyors of sexy steel bikes at Production Privée have turned their attention to the downhill World Cup with a completely new bike featuring revolutionary new suspension and cutting edge, in-house, manufacturing.


The guys and girls at the Forestal Technology Centre have been working so hard on this project that they've not even had the chance to name it, but we don't think that matters because this machine really speaks for itself.

Production Priv e Group B DH prototype
Production Priv e Group B DH prototype

Thanks to their new manufacturing facility, and partnership with Forestal Group, Production Privée has used the new tech at their disposal to seamlessly move from steel to a cutting-edge CNC manufacturing process. The PP DH frame is machined from solid blocks of aluminium which are hand-welded together in Andorra to create a monocoque frame stiff enough for the roughest of UCI DH tracks.

This race-ready rig runs 205mm of rear-wheel travel via a Twin Levity linkage system developed by Forestal and re-engineered for downhill racing from the Siryon Enduro bike. 

Production Priv e Group B DH prototype
Production Priv e Group B DH prototype
Production Priv e Group B DH prototype

Production Priv e Group B DH prototype
Production Priv e Group B DH prototype
Production Priv e Group B DH prototype


Alex Marin of The Brigade has been secretly testing the new bike during the off-season and judging by his on-track speed and off-track smiles, we're confident we're on to something really good;

bigquotesFirst time I saw the bike I knew they did a fantastic job with it. The bike itself looks as good as how it works on track. The first impression when I rode it, was like home for me. They worked so hard on the geometry to make it super easy to adapt to it and get up to speed pretty quick. My first big thought was how sensitive it was, the first bit of the travel is amazing, you can go thru those rock gardens and braking bumps and the bike will always stay on the line. I’m so happy to see that we’ll have such a great machine to race at the highest level, and hopefully, with the help of the team and the brand, make it grow to the very topAlex Marin

Production Priv e Group B DH prototype

The partnership between The Brigade Team and Production Privée began in 2020 when Production Privée supported the team for its first season with cockpit components. Over the year the relationship blossomed and through a shared love of bikes, racing and fast cars the Production Privée DH bike was born:

bigquotesThis project is part of a deeper R&D project that we are carrying on manufacturing technologies and this is just the first milestone. Our next step is going lead us on major chassis manufacturing innovations and products that hopefully will be presented during the year more will come during 2021 and 2022. Steel lovers shouldn’t be afraid! We have good stuff coming, and products that the racer can enjoy too!Damien Nosella Co-Founder Production Privée

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If our project downhill bike wasn't news enough for you all, then we would like to take this opportunity to introduce our new and returning sponsors for the 2021 racing season.

• Production Privée - Production Privée the unreal engineers behind our new frameset will also provide The Brigade with their race-winning cockpit.
• SR Suntour - We're stoked to be riding Suntour again. We've loved their suspension for a long time, and love working with this passionate brand.
• Vee Tire Co. - When we're hitting the DH tracks as hard and fast as Alex is, we need a strong tire partner and with Vee Tire Co. we have the best rubber on the race track.
• Monkeys Sauce - Keeping our ultra-rare new framesets clean and factory fresh is our maintenance and sealant partner, Monkeys Sauce.
• Kenny - Comfortable, stylish and cool. Who else would we want to wear and represent?
• Bluegrass - We take safety seriously and with Bluegrass onboard we can take to the track without any concerns.
• Crankbrothers - Our riders loved their first season on Crankbrothers Synthesis wheels and we're stoked to be working with this legendary brand for the coming season.
• Formula - We welcome Formula for 2021. With our new, faster bike, we need reliable brakes to keep us under control and we can think of none better.
• GALFER - Galfer is another exciting new partner for the team. Their experience in the moto field is indispensable and we love the power and feel of their precision discs and pads.
• Fizik - When we think of strong, light, comfortable saddles engineered for performance there can only be one choice. Fizik is known for their design and engineering and we're proud to have them on board.
• HXR - HXR's innovative Easyshift chainset is one of The Brigade's secret weapons and allows our racers to shift without pedalling.

If you thought this was big news then stay tuned as The Brigade has some huge and exciting rider announcements coming soon!

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108 Comments
  • 62 6
 Looks like a stumpy.... But in DH form.
  • 11 8
 Looks exactly like the evo with a double crown.
  • 2 4
 Yes! Because it's raw aluminium!
  • 6 0
 We should call it a Dumpy
  • 2 3
 paint it turquoise and we'll read it looks like a yeti...
  • 51 8
 As a machinist it actually makes me a bit depressed seeing a whole bike frame being machined from billet - just very uncool from an environmental standpoint (yep you can say that aluminium chips are recyclable as much as you like)... Anyway good luck folks!!!
  • 3 0
 Yes, seems like the most expensive route you could take to a frame thats way too stiff. No doubt has a cool factor and looks nice though!
  • 6 54
flag ricochetrabbit (Jan 19, 2021 at 13:08) (Below Threshold)
 Shut up. @bmxconan.
  • 11 0
 As a machinist I see very large chunks left to either sell or re-use for future tooling or other useful parts.
  • 11 2
 Yes cause buying bikes built in Asia and shipping them around the world is much less waste than machining them in the place they’ll be used. There is probably ways to maximize that block by using the left overs for rear triangles, linkages, stems, etc....I’m sure all those aluminum bike factories in Asia are zero impact and follow California like standards for emissions and recycling.
  • 3 0
 @Caddz: exactly my thought! So rather recycle the alloy chips instead of the current nonsense
  • 7 4
 I'm sure your computer/cell phone you bought and used to look at this article will be more environmentally friendly made from plastic, silicon, aluminum, toxic lithium battery ect..
  • 5 0
 That billet has to be shipped from somewhere too, so it would be interesting to know where it comes from
  • 5 0
 What about all this whatsaboutism? It doesn't make the waste of material any better.
Why not produce in Europe with high environmental standards, PLUS a minimum of material use?
  • 2 0
 What's worse though? This tank of a bike, that a weekend warrior could use for life. Or, a carbon bike every 3 years like the rest of the industry pushes.
  • 44 0
 That frame is privee awesome
  • 17 2
 I just want to know if it shall or Shan be in Production
  • 2 0
 @sewer-rat: Not a hard tale to love
  • 15 0
 So this is a single pivot with a linkage driven shock.

Can someone educate me about machining frames? To me it looks like an enormous, expensive waste. Aluminum tubing is cheaper, easier, more efficient, and with hydroforming it can be as performant.
  • 2 0
 It is. But you can also do a lot more with forming than you could with sheet metal or tubes. Plus there’s not as great a heat affected zone as most aluminium bikes.
  • 5 3
 It is a waste, but the strength of the one piece is controlling grain structure. For a welded frame, the weak points are always the welds. Even if you heat treat and homogenize the temper, the welds still end up being a weak point because no frame company dye pen or mag particles their frames to check for pits.

Well anyways, as far as I know, a five axis Cnc hasn’t evolved enough where you can machine both sides at once. So that is one expensive prototype.
  • 10 0
 What’s so revolutionary about a linkage-actuated single pivot???
  • 1 0
 @kroozctrl: Then just overbuild the frame with more gussets. Is Loic breaking aluminum frames left and right? Or Gwin and Mulally?
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: monocoque frame, CNC, hand-welded, machined from solid blocks of aluminum... potar4o Smile
  • 12 0
 @kroozctrl: there is zero grain structure benefit from machining from a piece of billet. It's not like it was forged into a near net shape with any consideration to load path and grain alignment. If a weldment is failing at the weld the welder isn't up to the task or the parts were not prepped properly.
  • 3 0
 @naso: that’s the cutting-edge, in house, manufacturing. I’m asking about the suspension design, Nasence! Smile
  • 2 0
 i dont think is a matter of any type of advantage of machining vs tubing, it is probably a matter of what the manufacturer has in house, a hydroforming machine is way more expensive than a CNC.

But i might be wrong, we had an experience nearby, 3 broken seatstays (3 different Canyon Strives), the owners were not able to get some sort of guarantee responsibility from canyon, so they had a local CNC shop machine them 3 new seatstays.

The only Hydroforming machine nearby was an Automotive Steel hydroformer which presses/forms PickUp frames every 40 seconds, i dont think they were going to make room for 3 MTB aluminum Seatstays.
  • 4 0
 @Narro2: Who did the CAD for those steatstays? Thats a lot of work.

Also Canyon is a poor example as they have a reputation for breaking.
  • 2 0
 @kroozctrl: The issue wouldn't be getting to two sides at once - that is challenging but doable. I think the issue is having to make two halves separately in order to maintain a hollow frame structure for weight savings (and internal cable routing - the real reason.)
  • 2 0
 @hamncheez: probably i didnt explain myself, what is was trying to say, is that people use tools they have available.

Regarding the CADs, that shop is well known for having a CMM FAROArm, they most likely used it for the pivot interface points at least.

I'll get some pictures next time i ride with any of them, the stays definitely look jerryrigged if one looks closely, they wanted a solution not an exact looking stay.
  • 1 0
 sooo, bikes are not tools, they're toys, thus people buy them based not only on performance but perceived coolnes too, in a balance that's unique to every person. I think that sums it up.
  • 1 0
 This bike is not made for mass market. If you want to control the process of manufacturing for like 10-20 frames this could be cheaper than going to Asia and having to deal with another manufacturer with shitty or none qc/qm.

Also you can use stronger alloys because weldable alloys are a compromise in material composition
  • 13 3
 After years of SR Suntour being the janky crap that came on Canadian Tire bikes, it still totally weirds me out that its a legitimate suspension provider now....
  • 5 42
flag Ussr1223 (Jan 19, 2021 at 9:15) (Below Threshold)
 It isn't. There are a couple of pro teams that use it, but the high-end stuff doesn't exist on the trail. Even the expensive stuff the pros ride creaks like hell, and I've heard that in their own raw promo edits. The reputation that they make useless "suspension" products is totally justified.
  • 15 0
 They have been making lower castings for many top suspension companies for decades. All depend on specs and quality level of the clients.
  • 19 0
 @Ussr1223: My Auron is probably the best price/performance fork I've ever ridden... while it has some minor issues, creaking really is not one of them...
  • 14 0
 @Ussr1223: Maybe that's why the two most selling bike forks also creak like crickets!
  • 10 0
 @winko: +1 for the Auron.

I have ridden 26er Durolux, 29er Auron and 34 + Pikes and other than a little weight issues SR by far makes the forks with the best bang for bucks ratio.
  • 6 0
 @winko: Agreed! I had an Auron on my Meta TR 29. Probably the best price/performance fork on the market.
  • 2 0
 I find it bizarre how they keep sponsoring riders with a product that can't be purchased by the general public (29er DH Fork). Are you providing a halo product to racers just to increase name recognition so that people watching UCI DH races will go buy....a walmart bike with SR Suntour suspension? It makes no sense.

I've used their single crown enduro fork and other than the annoying axle it's a pretty solid product. They really just seem to get in their own way as a company though.
  • 7 0
 @Ussr1223: hi, I have a high end suntour and I ride trails, making your statement wrong.
  • 1 0
 @fracasnoxteam: I too ride high end SR Suntour but they are rare on the trails. Not sold at every single online bike shop like the big guys. When you find them though they are usually quite on sale. Got my Auron RC2 for $300. I'd be interested to compare it head to head with a Z2.
  • 1 0
 @Ussr1223: I've got an Auron that I rail on with no issues or creaks that begs to differ... There certainly aren't too many out there though I'll give you that.
  • 7 0
 Great to have all the pinkbike smart asses in one place.
Looks real nice and cool to see CNCing sinking in!! Great engineering!
Just enjoy and appreciate the work, thoughts, time and effort people spend into their and our passion guys!! Really annoys me
Stay healthy and keep breathing bikes ????????
  • 6 0
 Reach looks to be about 400mm
  • 2 0
 yeah, PP aren't really known for long bikes.
  • 2 2
 @tobiusmaximum: What?? Have you ever seen a Shan 5 in person? Everyone in 2017 thought it was the longest bike out there.
  • 1 0
 yeah i was thinking the same it does look short and not that slack either
  • 2 0
 Didn’t spooky cycles cnc aluminium rear triangles back in the late 90s? Such a killer look with the cutter marks, like topography on a map. Just bought a Shan GT I’m a huge fan
  • 3 2
 Mountain bikes are, in so far as most of us are interested, supposed to be ultra-high performance engineering marvels. This bike is gorgeous; a show stopper.

I can only hope that each of you offering your opinions on CNC'ing's short comings are yourselves incredibly well-qualified materials engineers. Even so, pick a material and be a d*ck about it - each material process has pro's and con's.

And for those of your offering your ecological concerns, I will presume that you're driving a 1970's diesel, hand modified using junk-yard parts to run on bio-diesel, that you're refining on your own organic and biodynamic farm that sustains you and your family, using solar energy stored in recycle-lithium batteries procured from your local battery-smith. The vast majority of us "waste" more stored energy in commute and consumption in a day than recycling the material from any one of these frames would require.
  • 2 0
 You can see that Pp and Forestal are working close together. Really similar bike design. forestal.com/de/products/siryon
  • 1 0
 Well to me, as a machinist AND a welder. I can see a lot of stress risers. I hope the polsish before closing it... I would like to see the finish on the inside. And give a tums up to the programer.
  • 1 0
 Maybe you should give the programmer a thumbs up when he and the machinist can make a good part. Either the roughing pass didnt leave enough stock for the finishing pass to clean up, or they tried to rough too fast and the endmill pulled out, and machined deeper.... which means there are a bunch of thin spots with a minimal corner radius. Yes, many stress risers.
  • 2 0
 Milling frames seams to become more normal... When Pole did this, I thoght it is way to expensive... But now Pole, Nicolai, production privée...
  • 3 0
 Acto 5 doing whole bike too and Stanton doing CNC back ends. Low volume its a good option.
  • 4 0
 Specialized and Pole had a baby #SpecialPole
  • 2 0
 Can't help but think stating it's machined from solid blocks of aluminum in the title would gather a much larger audience.
Is that Cedric in the back ground?
  • 2 0
 This is awesome. I’ve got the hardtail and Shan no5 so now I’ll be getting a dh bike! So cool!!
  • 3 0
 Is that Cedric Gracia on the third photo (first guy on the left)?
  • 1 0
 yes indeed!
  • 1 0
 Yes. CG has had skin in the game with Production Privee for what seems like a decade. And, with Forestal since his days with Santa Cruz ended. I believe that Production Privee and Forestal are all under the same umbrella now. Not sure what CG's shares and or roles with the company are but hes definitely vested in some way.
  • 1 0
 Searched the comments to see if anyone else caught that!
  • 1 0
 @Trudeez: I remember the video that Cedric made about leaving SC and joining Forestal. I was not aware of the connection between Privee and Forestal.
  • 1 0
 Are there any news regarding Suntours coil shock? Its seen on sponsored riders bikes pretty often now and I would like to give it a try.
  • 1 0
 It's Tuesday. Guess that means it's time to compare every brand frame to a Specialized or Trek somehow.
  • 1 0
 Just on Tuesday? Nah, that is an everyday thing around these parts.
  • 1 0
 Yeah, any raw alu frame is a stump Evo. Oh look a banshee titan!
  • 2 0
 Good to see more Suntour out there.
  • 1 0
 Tyre clearance? lets hope they don't race with that SR Suntour fork anywhere muddy...
  • 1 0
 Rad.... BUT. Their roughing passes didn't clean up. Poor form. Most machinists would scrap that.
  • 2 0
 why not formula nero in front ?
  • 2 0
 Looks like the old Qbike DH bike.
  • 1 0
 En effet
  • 2 0
 @Balgaroth Empire, je cherchais le nom
  • 1 0
 I guess that's because of the perimetric frame. But besides that, not really...
  • 1 0
 @kikou: The very deep sloping V shape top tube, the swingarm is very similar, single pivot, shock insertion too. Main difference is around the seat tube for which they prefered to go around with a yoke which was not a technical solution back then so Qbike used a very short tube on a small added triangle like Scott used to do. But visually the similarity is striking, just check a picture on google to refresh your memory if necessary.
  • 1 0
 @Balgaroth: Yeah I did before posting my previous comment, and besides top tube I didn't see much of it. But I understand your point, if there had been a yoke back then, maybe it would have been closer in design (well, that plus the linkage and position of the main pivot)
  • 1 0
 @kikou: cer com un ralloun
  • 2 0
 Optimus Prime Vibes
  • 1 0
 I found a new love! Holy crap!
  • 1 0
 This is one of the most drool worthy frames I’ve seen in a long time.
  • 1 0
 probably start a trend by having to run it reverse mullet...
  • 1 1
 So do they install the shock before welding or after? Looks real fun to service
  • 1 0
 Looks like it would just drop out the bottom tbh.
  • 1 0
 Alex Marin be looking so guilty tho...
  • 1 0
 Manitou Dorados will be the fork of 2021 uci season. Mark my words!
  • 1 0
 Maybe they should sponsor someone before, no?
  • 1 0
 @fracasnoxteam: sneaking in at night and swapping forks is way better marketing
  • 1 0
 @giantwhip: they may notice it. Perhaps.
  • 1 0
 Steel, then CNC'd aluminum, whats next? Carbon?
  • 1 0
 Idk i like it, it look nice
  • 2 3
 It should be noted that it is still a problem to use anti-covid masks. It's not a nice message for Pinkbike or Production Privee
  • 3 2
 Ancillotti
  • 1 0
 Exactly
  • 1 0
 Not even close.
  • 1 1
 who took the saw to a stumpy??
  • 1 0
 Pole-ish
  • 1 1
 Stump jumper demo?
  • 1 2
 It looks like an evo up front and demo 29 in the back
  • 2 0
 No and no.
  • 1 2
 @fracasnoxteam:
yes and yes it has a demo and evo look to it
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