It’s a typical winner’s podium-style moment at the Trans-Cascadia, a four-day race in the Pacific Northwest. The top three riders (in this case, Geoff Kabush, Chris Johnston and Brian Lopes) stand side-by-side as the photographers capture the moment. There are smiles. There are camera flashes firing away. There’s a bottle of champagne in the air, aloft in Kabush’s hand. Yes, there’s always a champagne bottle, but this one is key to the story, so pay attention here. And then there’s a punch.
You’re not expecting the punch.
You are watching this seemingly innocuous moment captured on someone’s Instagram feed and wondering why in the world this is even Insta-worthy, when Brian Lopes turns and sends a right cross into Geoff Kabush’s chest. For the record, it’s a well-executed right cross. Lopes drops slightly, pivots on the ball of his rear foot, twists with the hips and sends his right fist into Kabush’s chest. There’s a neat, meaty—
Pop! at the end of it. You can watch it below.
Someone took their Tae Bo classes seriously.
Kabush staggers back a step, but looks stunned, rather than hurt. Lopes backs up and fixes Kabush with a stare that seems to suggest that some hurting could well be in order if Kabush is truly in the mood for it. Then he walks out of the frame.
All of which led us, and other people, to ask,
Wait, what just happened here?If this happened between professional athletes following a hockey or football game, the media would promptly get into the
why, where and
how of it.
In the days since the video went up on Instagram, the public has been quick to make judgements about the incident. But rather than speculate about motivation or responsibility for the act, we thought we'd just get down to the facts of the matter.
So I called up Kabush. And I called up Lopes. And this is what the two racers had to say.
Kabush's Take I’ve got nothing to hide. Go ahead and shoot, man.
So what's the story here? There’s no interaction that we can see in the clip of you two conversing or having a hostile encounter, but I imagine something must have triggered the punch. What was that?
I can give you the facts. It was the last night celebration at dinner and we were having some fun. I took the win, so I was pretty excited. We had a little presentation in the dining tent and I sprayed some champagne. Lopes being Lopes, I wanted to get him with some champagne. He sprinted out of the dining tent, and me and Chris [Johnston] nearly ate shit on some tent wires chasing after him. Well, Lopes circled back and I was going to try and get him again with the champagne because I hadn’t gotten him very well, but he ran up into his hotel room, where he was staying for the last three nights of the event.
A little while later the organizers wanted to set up some portraits of the winners and the top three finishers—this was in the parking lot. After much work trying to get Lopes out of his hotel room, he finally came out. I was still trying to have a good time and I had the champagne bottle with me and he [Lopes] could tell that I was still up to some mischief, so he very seriously said to me that he would "punch me in the f*ckin’ face" if I got him wet again with the champagne bottle because he was wearing his last clean set of clothes and he planned on traveling in them the next day and he was pretty serious.
So, we proceeded to take the podium photo. I still had the champagne bottle in my hand and he told me, "Don’t f*ckin’ do it! Don’t f*ckin’ do it!" ….but.... I just couldn’t resist. And, yeah, so I poured a little champagne on him. Luckily for me, he didn’t punch me in the f*ckin face. And, well, you saw the video from there…
I just want to get this right. So, he’s telling you not to pour the champagne on him and you do it anyway. You poured it on his head during the photo?
Yeah, I dumped a little bit on his hat there.
There’s always two sides to any story. If you had to guess what Brian’s perspective would be, what would you say it was?
Well, I know Brian from way back. All the way back to `97. Look, I’ll give credit to him. I think this event [Trans-Cascadia] was pretty far outside of his comfort zone. I think he had a tough time embracing the unknown—the party-in-the-woods atmosphere. It’s a tough crowd. But, yeah, I don’t know…. Camping in the rain, partying in the woods…you kind of have to embrace it and, well, I think it was a tough week for him. He’s a pretty tightly-wound guy. I was just trying to have some fun, but it took a turn there. It’s a story I can laugh about anyway. As we all know, this is not the first Lopes incident we’ve seen.
Have you talked to Brian since the incident?
No, never saw him after that. He was gone the next morning, off on the shuttle home, I guess.
I didn’t see him at the last big party on the final night either, but then again, I didn’t really expect to after what went down. I think everyone was a little stunned when it happened, but in retrospect, it wasn’t a complete surprise. We just all had a good time and partied out on the last night. That’s what that event is all about. I hope it doesn’t reflect badly on the guys or the event because I think everyone had an awesome time.
Have you heard anything from either of your respective sponsors?
No. I certainly haven’t heard anything negative. I’m not getting any criticism, that’s for sure. You know, I was hoping to help loosen up Brian, but I think at this point Brian’s not going to change. I’m sure I’ll see him again and it’ll all be fine.
Lopes' Take So, let's get right to it—what happened there?
Basically, the short story is that we had the podium, we all got the champagne and I had no intention of spraying anyone. Geoff turned to me, right away, and I tried to run, but he got me pretty good. So, after that I went up to my room. I had to download some footage from my GoPro. My pants were all soaking wet, so I changed into my last set of clothes. Ten minutes later, someone came up and said they were doing more photos because they’d set up some lighting in the parking lot. I said, ‘Alright, but tell those dudes they better not spray me because I am in my last set of clothes and I’m getting on a plane tomorrow.’
So, I walk down there and the first thing I see is Geoff walking around with the bottle of champagne still. So I looked at him and told him, ‘Dude, don’t spray me. I’m in my last set of clothes.’ And he just kind of looked at me with this look that said, I’m going to get you.
So, I said to Geoff, “Dude, I’m serious. Don’t spray me. I’m going to f*ckin’ punch you if you spray me.”
So then we huddled under the lights for the photo. Geoff was in the middle because he won. He put his arms up above both me and Chris and I just had this feeling—because he [Geoff] still had that champagne bottle in his hand—that he was going to friggin’ pour it on me. Now, I’m not even looking at him because I’m looking at the cameras, but I’m telling him “Dude, don’t do it. Don’t do it, Geoff. I’m serious. Don’t do it.”
And the next thing you know, I have champagne running down my head and down my last set of clothes so I f*ckin’ turned around and punched him and that’s pretty much it. I felt like I’d warned him—asked him—three of four times not to do it and he still went ahead and did it. I walked away after that.
There’s always two sides of a story. If you had to guess what Geoff’s might be, what would you guess his perspective would be?
I don’t think there
is another perspective. That’s exactly what happened. From the time I walked out there, I warned him three or four times not to do it and I even told him what I would do if he got me wet again. And, he’s the one who provoked me to do it. Now, whether it was right or wrong…obviously, punching Geoff wasn’t the right thing to do and I have no problem telling him that I’m sorry. But, I mean, I asked him numerous times not to do something and he still did it, so that’s pretty disrespectful on his behalf. I mean, he already got me wet with champagne once. Why does he have to go and do it again after I’ve gone and changed?
So, that is the point of distinction you’re making here, because a lot of people are going to watch this video and say, “Well, it’s a podium moment—of course you’re going to get sprayed with champagne? What were you expecting?”
Absolutely. I mean, it’s not like I got mad at Geoff for spraying me with champagne the first time. I did try to run, but he still got me and it is what it is.
During the actual podium moment people are going to spray champagne and I get that. I don’t really care to do that—spray other people, that is—but I understand it’s going to happen. Sure. But this wasn’t on the podium and, again, I asked him several times not to.
Like I said, I have no problem saying sorry to him, but I feel like he owes me an apology too.
You guys go back a long way, right?
Sure, I’ve known Geoff a long time. I mean it’s not like I’ve ever been buddy-buddy with him, we’re always been on different circuits, so I’ve never hung out with him, but at the same time I respect him as a racer. He’s an awesome racer and he’s accomplished a lot. I have respect for him. I would just ask that he have respect for me as well and it didn’t feel like he was giving me any at that point.
Well, I’ve talked to both of you now and while Geoff clearly didn’t want you to hit him, you have fairly similar stories about what actually went down.
Yeah, well, I’m not one to really sugarcoat shit. I say it how it is. It’s not always the right thing to say at the time, or the best way to go about it… and me punching Geoff wasn’t the best way to go about it at the time, but what do you do when you’ve provoked that much? It is what it is. I don’t lose sleep over it. I’m not going to see the guy and hold any grudges or try to kick his ass. I’ve had conflicts with lots of people and they just roll off my shoulders. Life goes on.
Sounds like both parties understand the circumstance and it's not that big a deal. Respect is key.
Go to a party and pour champagne on a guy "you know from around" and see what happens.
April 6th, 2012, Hong Du, in the province of Yanan, Republic of China - a 20 pound bag of Golden King triple A rice was suddenly falling over - situation still unclear.
The joke was over, the day was done & Kabush want trying to be humorous. He was trying to make Lopes mad. He deserved what he got. Hot tip for next podium though. Whack him in the nut sack mid - photo with a smile on your face. Revenge is best served to the scrotum when defeating shenanigans.
I want to harrass you non stop from the seat of a freaking golf cart as you run away from all passive aggressive abuses in life and find ways to shift and divert and shield your made up narcissistic bullshilt about walking the other way.
That's kind of what it's for. Just watch America's Funniest Home vids. Groin shots rock.
Why would the "Paddies" choose another flag other than the Irish flag? You do know it's been an independent country for nearly 100 years?
@ridehard84: so a "professional" athlete is justified in punching another? What kind of example does that set?
Good on ya Brian.
I bet you would never see Gwin in that situation... for two reasons, firstly people respect him and he's a decent guy, secondly he wouldn't put himself in the same position, thirdly he knows he doesn't need to go around punching people.
These guys are supposed to be professional athletes and role models and both were in the wrong and made themselves look like cocks as a result.
It's basic bullying. If Lopes comes back with words, Kabush still gets his way and does whatever the flip he wants when he wants with no consequence.
If you do something to start a fight...expect a fight. Passive aggressive people run around expecting no one would think of knocking them out and use it to get away with murder.
A punch just leaves Lopes looking like he's overreacting to a "harmless" boyish fun. Retaliating in kind however, would have earned Lopes some credibility, and caused Kabush to think twice the next time he was thinking of pulling a similar dick move.
#Probikeriderproblems.
the film for reference. It does happen.
youtu.be/pZpOdTMPUtQ
If you poured a drink over my head after I asked you not to you would have got taken to the ground and beat to submission it would not have been just one friendly little punch.
The first time my driver got a top 3 finish he jumped off the podium and inverted the bottle over my head and down my collar, not remembering/caring that we still had another race later that day, then pack up and then drive home. I can tell you after a few hours, your clothes absolutely reek.
Professional athletes do everything 110%. Life, love, work, play, anger, punching someone who needs a punch.
I'd love to get pissed off and go toe-to-toe with Lopes. Maybe a good Sea Otter charity booth for '18???? For donation, Get my boss to conference call me, and really piss me off, then let me loose on Lopes? Probably get throttled, but it'd be for charity....
Man, I like to drink beer, but there are scenes I don't partake in. You're judgemental as hell. Dude came to race. Nobody signed a "must party with the furry folks" mandate. You sound like a woodland frat guy. Dirty, nerdy hippy bully frat mentality....
It's like going to a house party and complaining that someone poured beer on your expensive suit.
This incident brings the words of MX legend Bob Hannah to mind “If my competitor was drowning I’d stick a hose in his mouth” If I know my actions are causing my competitor stress then I’m probably going to keep doing it to get him off his game and onto mine. I think the punch was a culmination of a whole four days of frustration for Lopes.
I think all of us have been on both sides of situations like this. I’ve been the fit in or f*ck off guy and the bitchy guy who hates everything about where he is and lashes out in frustration.
The more you guys say the more kabush sounds like a bully too by the way. Get ready for it if you don't fit in!
I'm a loner. I get it. I don't like to play nice in bunches. I can do it for short times. But I want nothing to do with the masses, the cliques, the group mentality. Go ride your bike. He'll ride his. Dude posted for several days about how much fun it was and how he was out of his element but determined to soldier on. He didn't quit, pushed himself and did it with a smile that has a sarcastic fokking smirk that people just don't like.
You are hating for hatings sake. Now shut up or I will pour acid on your skull even if you tell me not to.(that last sentence is sarcasm...and how I lose friends).
www.rootsandrain.com/rider3528/brian-lopes/results
He's got 22 DH world cups on his R&R results. Don't think it's showing the 4X stuff though
The other dude only exists in ads I see in Mountain Bike Action as far as I can tell.
After every issue since april 1992, i've finally kicked my MBA buying habit as of two months ago. Now to start putting back issues on ebay to sell to other addicts
Kabush did not play very smart but man Lopes sure did not also...
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Meanwhile...
Geoff: "He told me he was going to punch me in the fk'ng face".
Lopes: "I told him i was going to punch him"
HAH!!!!!
Lopes - another crap story but I'm not disappointed in the punch as an outcome - that seemed well deserved, I am disappointed in the churlishness that preceded it.
Kabush - I've only seen him as a really talented rider until now, this pushes him towards the douchebag bully side of things. Reminds me of the attitude you get when you walk into a crap bike shop for the first time - same tribal/exclusive bull-shit.
Both of you behaved in a manner I wouldn't tolerate from my 12 year old boy.
Still more fun and less douchey than Lopes and Kabush were.
He'll have to make sure he packs extra nappies for the trips home.
New sponsor? Huggies!
lol
For those who disagree, get a cheap $8 bottle, hose yourself down with it then go sit and drive for 3-4 hours.
no body looks good here... PB doesnt look good, VF doesnt look good, Lopes doesnt look good, Kabush doesnt look good... what the f*ck is wrong with all you people?...
I have to empathize with Lopes for a moment... he is exactly the kind of dude that might have had to deal with this kind of shit his whole life, and despite his success, you still are dealing with it... because douchebags like kabush think you are the dude to f*ck with for whatever reason and as much as they think they are cool guys, they are just douchebag bullies who are victimizing people who they think dont fit, or dont have a right to belong someplace... i bet he doesnt f*ck with lopes again... he is lucky he didnt get punched in the face as promised...
Eh?
If you tell me not to do something insistently that isn't that big of a deal, I'd totally f*ck with them, too. Sounds like something you'd get sent to the principals office for in like 3rd grade.
This won't really change my opinion of Lopes, but it did help me form one of Kabush: Douche.
It's not I am dead serious about life and everything, it's just you should keep minimum of good behavior in some situations and that was the one.
Lopes could have easily punched him in the face, he had every right to. If you ask someone (especially someone you're not even really friends with) multiple times, politely, not to do something - and then they go and do it again - they're disrespecting you. Lopes had every right to punch him in the face and showed restraint by only tagging him in the chest. Kabush got off easy. He could have his jaw wired shut today and he deserved it.
This isnt Jersey Shore lads
A thorough beating that he truly deserves.
*Note: Kabush is lucky that MR.Lopes did not bust out the Five Finger Death Punch!!!
F Geoff Kabush…
Brian Lopes was a huge douchebag before this and he's still as much of a douchebag now. I didn't need an excuse to make sure to not purchase an Ellsworth bicycle, Shimano drivetrain, or anything Pearl Izumi has ever produced but now I have one just in case I forget how much all of those products suck. Thanks Lopes!
I had to Google Geoff Kabush to find out what exactly it was that he did in order to become a has-been mountain bike racer. Turns out that it basically adds to not having won much, despite racing in innumerable World Cup races, world championships, and being a three-time Olympian. But he's about 1/10000000th as douchey as Lopes and the only somewhat questionable thing he did in this situation was to spray someone with a bit of what looks to be cheap sparkling wine, so the fact that a few companies decided to sign him as an ambassador doesn't reflect poorly on said companies.
The take-aways from this teachable moment? Brian Lopes is a sociopathic douchebag who seems to think that violence is an acceptable solution to one's interpersonal problems and Kabush likes to party on podiums. Most importantly, Pinkbike has once again proven itself to be the most irresponsible, unaware media entity in cycling as a whole. Way to go Pinkbike!
For sure.... Not taking any sides but there's no justification to say I'm going to punch you when celebrating anything. Dirtbag move on both ends.
www.instagram.com/p/Bm_N_8cFfwl/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=rzs6e60qsnlo
It's a swift little jab, not an executed, balanced, pivot, ball of his foot move. Dick reporting there.
Kabush = Legend
... we’re done here. ????
Lol you need a slap too by looks of it! Lopes style just to remind you of the bitch you are.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=diWScTZEjQ8