Whyte aren't especially well known outside the UK where they have a reputation for offering well-thought-through bikes with decent value - especially among reviewers. Their latest offering is the 2023 E-160 eMTB.
While the E-160 name has existed before purely as a 27.5" bike, the 2023 model is available as a 29er or with mixed wheels in sizes M to XL, and with 27.5" wheels in sizes S and XS. It gets a few upgrades over the older version too, including Bosch's latest CX Smart System motor with a huge 750WH battery.
Whyte E-160 Details• Bosch CX Smart System w/ 750 WH battery
• 150mm rear, 160 mm fork
• 27.5", 29" or mixed wheel options
• Weight: over 26 Kg / 57.3 lb (that's the limit of my bike scale)
• 75° seat angle, 64.8° head angle, 446 mm chainstay
• Sizes: M, L, XL (29" or MX), XS &S (27.5")
• Price: £7,999 (E-160 RSX 29er)
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whytebikes.com Frame detailsTo keep costs down, the frame is only offered in 6061 aluminum. Whyte decided to use a complete downtube to maintain structural integrity when compared to a design where the battery slots into a hole in the belly of the "tube". They say this allows them to keep the tube wall thickness below 2 mm, making for a lighter overall weight than a downtube with a door, where wall thicknesses swell to compensate for the lack of structural efficiency. This bike is not light, mind you.
Whyte also sought to keep the weight as low down in the frame as possible to make it easier to move the bike around and change direction. To do this, they rotated the Bosch motor anticlockwise so the downtube battery could slide out the bottom for off-bike charging, while also keeping it as close to the ground as possible. Though the bike ships with Bosch's biggest 750 Wh battery, smaller batteries can be used; and because the battery clips in at the bottom the empty space is at the top of the down tube - helping keep the center of gravity even lower.
The E-160 has a flip-chip that changes the bottom bracket height by 8 mm and the head angle by 0.7-degrees. There's the usual frame protection, bottle cage bosses, and internal routing you'd expect from a modern bike, and the head tube allows for forks with 1.8" steerers.
SuspensionDespite the name, the E-160 offers 150 mm of travel at the rear, teamed with a 160 mm fork. The suspension linkage is progressive throughout the stroke, with about 23% progression from beginning to end. That's fairly progressive, but nothing crazy. Anti-squat levels (how much the suspension resists pedal-bob) are roughly typical for an e-bike, with around 80% at sag.
What makes Whyte's suspension stand out is the shock tune. "I have found in general e-bikes don’t require more damping than a regular bike", says Whyte's MTB engineer, Sam Shucksmith, "due to the stability provided by the extra weight of the bike if anything you can get away with less damping and benefit from increased small bump compliance and traction. Mid-stroke support from the spring is important when dealing with the added weight of an e-bike."
GeometryWhyte Bikes was one of the early adopters of modern geometry, and the E-160 is up to date. The chainstay length is well-balanced at 446 mm (not too long, not crazy short). With all that weight in front of the bottom bracket, a long chainstay can make an e-bike really hard to manual and move around on the trail. The seat angle is around 75 degrees, which isn't the steepest, but in terms of pedaling ergonomics, this doesn't seem to matter too much with e-bikes. The spec sheet says the bottom bracket measures 344 mm in the high setting (336 mm in the low), but it feels lower to me.
Models & SpecsThere are two spec options for the 29er version, both of which get the same Bosch motor and 750 Wh battery. I rode the more expensive RSX model with Fox 38 and Float X Performance Elite dampers, whereas the cheaper model gets a RockShox ZEB RC fork and a Deluxe Select R in-line shock.
Whyte E-160 RSX 29er £7,999
Fork: Fox Float 38 Performance Elite, 160mm
Shock: Fox Float X Performance Elite, custom tuned
Drivetrain: SRAM GX Eagle AXS, 10-52
Brakes: SRAM Code RSC 220 / 220 mm
Wheels: Hope Fortus 30 or DT Swiss HX1700
Tires: Maxxis Assegai EXO+ Maxxgrip (f) / DHR2 DD, MaxxTerra (r)
Whyte E-160 S 29er £6,399
Fork: RockShox Zeb RC, 160mm
Shock: RockShox Deluxe Select R,
Drivetrain: SRAM GX Eagle, 11-50
Brakes: SRAM Guide RE, 220 / 220 mm
Wheels: WTB HTZ i30
Tires: Maxxis Assegai EXO+ Maxxgrip (f) / DHR2 DD, MaxxTerra (r)
Ride ImpressionsI only got the chance to ride the E-160 29er once, but I was able to ride a wide selection of well-known test trails in the Tweed Valley. I did bring my own scale to the launch event, but I wasn't able to weigh my XL test bike because the scale only goes up to 26 Kg (57.3 lb). All you need to know is that this is not a light e-bike.
The Bosch CX motor is powerful and intuitive; it responds proportionately and with little lag, making technical climbs with tight switchbacks easy to negotiate. It's also reasonably quiet, with less of the clacking clutch noise found on other motors.
I tested the bike in the high setting only, and while the bottom bracket isn't exceptionally low on paper, I had plenty of pedal strikes on the E-160. The seat angle is slacker than most, and puts more weight on the rear suspension when climbing, causing the suspension to sit lower in its travel. With the stock shock setup, it's quite progressive; running 30% sag I never got full travel out of it, yet it sits quite deep in its travel to begin with. If I had more time, I'd like to try a smaller volume spacer with less sag.
When descending, there's no hiding the weight through technical crux moves and tight turns; it takes more effort and more time to negotiate these pinch points, and despite a 220 mm front rotor, it can be tricky to slow it down in a hurry. The low bottom bracket resulted in a few pedal scrapes in deep ruts while descending too.
Compared to many bikes with longer chainstays, it's not the hardest to manual and bunnyhop though. When I got stuck into some wider trails with fast turns and jumps, the bike came into its own. It's easy to carry speed and rip through berms, while it swallows up roots nicely and keeps the tires pressed into the ground.
That was a good week.
Price: £8000. Right then....
Weight: over 26kg. Right then...
8. Grand. I know we should never compare the cost of bikes to motorbikes, but I literally have two Triumphs in my garage with a combined value of £8k. And this is keeping the costs down.
I realise that everything has gone up in price but the ‘cost of entry’ in MTB now is nuts. I’d have an ebike but not at the prices they currently are. Crackers…
Whyte we’re cool in 2014, now they overpriced and lagging behind the times. Join the soon to be dust pile of brands already.
You didn’t choose aluminium to keep the price down, you chose aluminium because you don’t have the capability or market volume to justify a carbon option.
You haven’t kept the price down. These prices are obscene. Simple.
Im guessing this was a ‘22 bike, check back in when they release their ‘23 pricing, it’ll be 2/3 more…
My other half has a hardtail e-MTB so she can ride as far (she has MS) as me and the kids do and even without the battery it's still a good 20kg, lifting that up onto a normal UK estate car roof rack is approaching the limit of a comfortable action. I guess a little kick step might help but it's a wide range of motion, high weight and awkward size at full arms length. There's no way she could lift her own bike onto the roof bars on our car let alone this behemoth.
Maybe you go to the gym and heft weights 3 nights a week, great for you if you do. Many don't and to me 57lb (+ who knows how much?) is just a ridiculous weight for a bike and besides, surely it's wasting a lot of the battery's power just towing itself around?! If I were at work carrying out a risk assessment, the only safe way to lift this size and weight object would be with some sort of mechanical assistance for the height you might need to lift it. So no, not really a conundrum at all but there's certainly a taste of irony with the weight of e-bikes and some demographic who would get one on health grounds. Let's just hope for everyone's benefit they keep getting lighter, not like this thing...
If you haven’t ridden an e-bike , try it.
Love Reading the ebike hate. Have a few bikes, enjoy all, I say. Personally the best piece of equipment I have ever bought. In areas with no lifts, you can cover so much descending.
...and the Orbea Rise continues to hold the top spot of great looking eMTBs (overtaking the Levo/Kenevo SL models only because it has more power)
This Whyte looks nice, but I prefer my lighter-weight Rise (44 lb). If they came up with a light-weight model, smaller battery, maybe a little less power, I'd give it a second look!
I have a E 150rs and i love it,my second E-bike after 25 yrs on normal bikes ,the last 6 yrs on E-bikes have been the most enjoyable. anything that enables me to continue to do the sport i love is good, apart from that they are just great fun,which is all i do it for.
Are people only allowed to comment on things they agree with? What world do you live in?
Its also pretty hard not to read about them with every element of mtb media dominated by them taking the space up from real bikes as its what the industry is pushing at suckers right now
It's all hilarious. Love coming to these reviews to see how much they wind up the Strava plebs or those clearly not having enough fun themselves. It's just brilliant.
Oh Whyte is now operated by a new CEO and CMO... One previously working for Dyson, and the other a yoga pants company...
The Whyte name doesnt mean anything anymore. They are just cookie cutter designs bought from the Taiwan catalog and sold for triple their value.
I can't see that rear shock lasting / coping with that weight & why the F are they still spec'ing Eagle Sram junk on an e-bike. Wider ratio, 10/11 speed would make allot more sense. Code RSC's i can live with but they're not really capable.
This bike with an X2 shock or decent coil, The hope wheels, XT brakes & SLX/XT drivetrain (or even Sram NX) would make allot of sense... but the price is still mental
Almost twice the weight of my not particularly light 160mm enduro bike. Blimey...
some value!
Is any of those two numbers correct?
Is the battery easily swappable ?