First Ride: Ibis HD6 - Mixed Wheels & More Travel

Jun 27, 2023
by Mike Kazimer  
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No, your eyes aren't playing tricks on you – there's a new Ibis in the world, and it has a straight top tube. Developed with input from Ibis' Enduro World Cup race team, the HD6 is sort of a mash up, a combination of elements from the ever-popular Ripmo and the HD5. It takes its place as the longest travel option in Ibis' lineup, with 165mm of rear travel, a 180mm fork, and a mixed wheel setup.

That 165mm of travel is still delivered by a dw-link suspension layout, which uses two short co-rotating links, but the configuration is different than what Ibis has used in the past. The upper link now sits in front of the top tube, where it drives a pint-sized yoke that's attached to the shock.
Ibis HD6 Details

• Wheel size: 29" front / 27.5" rear
• Carbon frame
• 165mm rear travel, 180mm fork
• 64° head angle
• 435mm chainstays
• Sizes: S, M, L, XL, XXL
• Frame + shock weight: 7.7 lb (3500 grams)
• MSRP: $6,099 - $11,199 USD
ibiscycles.com

According to Ibis, the HD6's suspension was designed to be sensitive off the top, with enough progression for big hits. Granted, that's typically the goal of all modern suspension designs, but it's a good one to shoot for. The bike is also air or coil shock compatible, allowing riders to choose which suspension feel they prefer.

There are four complete models to choose from, with prices starting at $6,099 and going up to $11,199 USD. The frame and shock only is $3,899 USD, and is available with either a green, purple, or orange paint job.

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Frame Details

It's amazing how much straight lines can improve a bike's looks. I'm a fan of the HD6's frame shape – the sharper angles and lack of swoopy shapes gives it a much more modern appearance. It's quite light, too, weighing in at a claimed 7.7 lb (3500 grams) for a size large with a Float X2 shock.

Cable tunnels run inside the frame to keep the noise down and simplify component swaps, and the universal derailleur hanger makes it easy to find a spare, or run SRAM Transmission.

The top of the downtube has a slight recess to allow for more room for a water bottle, and all but the smallest size can accommodate a 26 oz bottle. There are also accessory mounts on the underside of the top tube, and room for Ibis' Pork Chop frame bag.

Other details include removable ISCG tabs, generous chainslap protection, downtube protection, and a little flap over the lower link to keep rocks out. The frame is covered by a lifetime warranty, a warranty that also covers the bushings used on the lower link.

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Geometry

The HD6 may be bigger and burlier than anything Ibis has created in the past, but looking at the numbers it's actually not that wild. The head angle sits at 64-degrees with a 180mm fork, which isn't super-slack in the grand scheme of things.

For comparison with other mixed-wheel machines, a Santa Cruz Nomad with a 170mm fork has a 63.5-degree head angle, as does a Canyon Torque; a Transition Patrol with a 160mm fork checks in a 63-degrees. Of course, slacker doesn't automatically mean better – there's certainly a place in the world for a slightly quicker handling long travel bike, especially for riders without easy access to super steep terrain.

The seat tube angle on the HD6 gets steeper as the sizes go up in order to keep taller riders from ending up too far over the rear axle when the seat post is fully extended, starting at 76-degrees for a size small and going up to 77.5 degrees for the XXL. It's a good tactic, although it's a little surprising Ibis didn't tweak the chainstay length too – it measures 435mm across the board. The 34.9mm seat tube itself is short enough to run long travel dropper posts without any issues.

Another number that's a little curious is the head tube length. The size large I've been testing has a head tube of 91mm; that's the size of a small headtube from most manufacturers. Shorter head tubes can be used to keep a bike's stack number in check, but in the case of a more gravity oriented bike like this, a higher front end tends to be beneficial, not detrimental.


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Ride Impressions

I know, weight supposedly doesn't matter (at least that's what the internet says), but it sure is nice to have a bike with this much travel that doesn't feel like it's actively trying to pull you backwards down the hill. Even with dual Double Down casing tires, the size large HD6 I've been testing weighs in under 33 pounds (15 kg).

The HD6's pedaling manners are quite similar to that of the Ripmo – it's a great blend of being efficient and active, and there's plenty of support for out-of-the-saddle pedaling, along with good sensitivity off the top that helps provide more traction. The climbing position on the size large is comfortable for my 5'11” height; I mentioned the short headtube earlier, but with a stack of spacers under the stem and Ibis' 30mm rise bars I ended up in a fairly upright pedaling position, and it's worked well on the handful of rides I've taken the HD6 on so far.

When it comes time to descend, the HD6 is a very manageable, maneuverable bike. Oftentimes I'll find myself writing something like, “It needs the right terrain to come alive” when reviewing bikes in this category, but that doesn't apply as much to the HD6. Yes, it has a lot of travel, but it's not a big, sprawling beast. It's more of an enduro bike for the masses, one that's not overly demanding to ride, and doesn't require high speeds or an extra helping of aggression to deliver a good time.

Slower, more awkward sections don't stymie it, and it's easy to see how it would work well on tighter, trickier enduro race stages. The short back end makes manuals and jumping a breeze, although I do wish it had a chainstay flip chip – it'd be interesting to see how the character of the HD6 changed with longer chainstays. I'm also curious how it would perform with a slightly slacker head angle, although that's much easier to accomplish with an angle-adjusting headset. I'll add that to my to-do list and report back once I get enough miles in for a long-term review.



Photos: Lear Miller / Ibis

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393 Comments
  • 535 4
 I think that this is the best looking ibis I've ever seen
  • 83 0
 the straight top tube is killer.
  • 9 0
 definitely
  • 18 0
 Came here to say the same thing.
  • 97 0
 But will it do the job?
  • 57 2
 Also: No cable-tourism!
  • 18 12
 yeah but why nowngive the option of a hybrid 29er full setup? All you really need is a rear axle flip chip or a geo adjust.

Booo
  • 52 2
 Looks like the old pivot firebird
  • 6 3
 @ratedgg13: It's an Ibis...of course it will
  • 5 0
 @hamncheez: Couldn't put my finger on why this looked so good to me and then I saw your comment. Totally agree!
  • 28 0
 Dear Ibis, please make a Ripley that looks like this.
  • 14 0
 Ytis
  • 7 2
 @bok-CZ: Pivis?
  • 1 1
 @Tormy: not enough beefy frame i'd say
  • 3 0
 Bow-ti?
  • 22 2
 Looks like a YT.
  • 8 2
 My first thought: a decent looking Ibis?!
  • 4 1
 @flattoflat: I think we are getting a glimpse of the future lineup. A big ripmo with 160-155 mm of travel and the ripley will go to 125-130 ish and the exie will slot in nicely as the XC rig.
  • 40 0
 bring back the old head badge and it'll be gold
  • 38 7
 It looks the same as every other bike now. The old one had that unique fluid shape that looked great imo
  • 8 1
 "Looks real nice, Clark"

Too soon for Christmas movie quotes?
  • 5 1
 @cool3: Looks like a CapraTower!
  • 14 1
 @mattg95:

> It looks the same as every other bike now

Agree

>unique fluid shape that looked great

Disagree haha.


Its true tho, carbon bike design has converged in the last few years. Curves aren't as strong or light as straight lines, carbon tubes seem to have an optimal profile, and droppers need short seat tubes. Unless you go steel or titanium, its getting really hard for your bike to stand out. So do you go for a "beautiful" bike that looks like every one elses beautiful bike, or go unique at the risk of ugly?
  • 4 1
 @mattg95: I liked it as well, but that styling made the jump between too many generations. It was super cool the first 3 times they did it (and I thought it was killer on my neon green Mojo HD 3). This one looks incredible.
  • 1 0
 Agree, looks
  • 2 0
 Rarely comment but feel compelled - second this! first ibis with the looks
  • 2 1
 logged in to upvote. This is worth 50 inmo.
  • 4 2
 Agreed! It keeps all the design details I like about an Ibis and does away with the odd top tube.

I’m excited to see what is next for Ibis… (hint- please bring this lovely straight top tube to the new Ripmo and Ripey)
  • 2 1
 @garrettstories: I think more to the point, the majority of the audience here won't know who Clark is....
  • 2 0
 @handynzl: Or Ellen's cousin, Eddie, who delivered the line.
  • 10 1
 @mattg95: agreed, the now-old ibis shapes looked really good to me and I never understood the heat they got for their aesthetics. This one looks great too, but looks just like all the other bikes now, and I think that’s sad.
  • 2 0
 @cool3: I thought it was a Capra at first
  • 2 1
 @bikeracer28: Same, I never had a problem with the old bikes although I found the first 3 Ripley generations to be the high water mark. I think this bike looks great and I really like that they went back to the rear triangle overlapping the front. I also like that it maintains the Roxy signature tube profile styling details of the more recent bikes. But I wouldn't mind a subtle hook in that top tube.
  • 5 4
 @hamncheez: awe man, the swoopy top tube was how I spotted dad bods from afar Big Grin
  • 1 2
 No gopping top tube
  • 5 13
flag Muscovir FL (Jun 28, 2023 at 4:10) (Below Threshold)
 Terrible geometry, terrible pricing, mullet-only, no adjustability what so ever, lacks basic features.

But hey, at least it looks good, right?!
  • 5 3
 @Muscovir: exactly what I was thinking. I'd classify the steepish head angle as a good thing but the rest is just meh.
  • 4 2
 Yeah, looks great - especially without the failure prone yoke-shock mount. Ibis - make this in a trail bike flavor with a 150/160mm fork up front and 140mm out back and I'm buying. I dig mullets.
  • 1 0
 Go back to the 90s. Much better.
  • 1 2
 Ibis spelled backwards is Sibi. If you spelled this with a y, like Sybi -- you'd understand my perspective about how I think this bike looks.
  • 5 12
flag Mtbdialed (Jun 28, 2023 at 14:21) (Below Threshold)
 @hamncheez: a straight top tube Ibis.....


what's next, a chick with a dick??????



oh god dammit.....
  • 1 0
 @gearbo-x: they have a bike for that its called the Ripmo
  • 2 0
 Scanning thru the comments, it looks like most folks don’t have an issue with the color ways. Traffic cones and soap serving as inspiration for 2/3 of the choices? Is that supposed to be quirky and clever? Yeah, yeah, yeah, I already know color doesn’t affect function. Seems like color might affect sales, tho.
  • 129 1
 What does exactly give the build name "GX" when chain, shifter and cranks are NX?
Good to see proper tyres from stock and lower end model coming with top speck suspension. Also, colors are sick, pricing is nuts, and attention to details seems top notch.
  • 8 1
 Yeah its kinda BS. When some other brands were having mix matched drivetrains like this didnt they call it NGX? or something like that?
  • 20 0
 @Takaya94: even the ripley and ripmo models are named in that way, they probably just didn’t want to be marketing a brand new bike for 6000 with nx right out of the door
  • 25 0
 @Takaya94: That would make my franken drive train an NGX01. I dig it.
  • 9 1
 At least they spec'd proper brakes. Upgrade the shifter and let the rest wear out.
  • 16 1
 I can understand the cranks considering how little difference there is between the alloy NX and GX, but the chain and shifter just screams cost-cutting. Like, how much money are they saving over a GX chain+shifter, $20? The NX shifter is made of plastic and the NX chain is notoriously weak.
  • 24 0
 @ReformedRoadie: no thanks, we’re talking about a 6k usd or 7.4k euro in Italy, f*ck no I don’t upgrade cause I buy a fake gx
Everything must be gx for that kind of money, AT LEAST
  • 21 0
 I would prefer a float x (eg fox super deluxe) over the X2 and NX should never be specced on any bike costing above 4K in my opinion.
  • 7 1
 i agree with you. that said, i think its awesome that all the builds come with high end suspension.
  • 19 2
 I'll just leave this here: Vitus Sommet AMP $6k with X01 Transmission us.vitusbikes.com/collections/sommet/products/vitus-sommet-297-amp-mountain-bike-07e7
  • 3 8
flag Healelw1 (Jun 27, 2023 at 12:44) (Below Threshold)
 @dangernoodle92808: I've been running NX chains on my X01 cassette for the last 4 years and they're mint!
  • 1 0
 @dangernoodle92808: Probably more like $3-5
  • 15 1
 Kashima looks amazing, but give me Performance Elite and upgrade other components. I don't want to pay $6,900 for SLX components. I should be getting XT at that price point, IMO. Or GX AXS
  • 3 0
 @dangernoodle92808: Chain is a wear item, (the nx a very short wear item) so I understand, but the shifter is such a curious one. Even my 10 year old was annoyed by the nx shifter coming off having low end shimano on his previous bike. Was a quick and necessary switch to GX with an nx cassette for him and he’s not that picky.
  • 1 2
 @Torbo24: High end suspension? Were you talking about front suspension only, because they all have the same shock, which is a Fox X2.
  • 9 0
 I don't know. IMO NX, factory suspension, and code RSC > GX, performance suspension, and code RS.

All of the important parts for going downhill are well sorted on the "GX" build. I'd much rather replace the shit drivetrain as it wears vs. buy new brakes on day 1.
  • 2 0
 @sspiff: yeah, although for the price they could easily put everything gx without the need of downgrading anything.
  • 9 0
 I think this is a pretty clever speced Bike. They took the GX stuff in places that matter most, Cassette wich gives you a XD freehub, and derailleur were the NX is shit. The Chain doesent matter at all since you have to replace it sooner or later anyway. And while you only have little disadvantages in the NGX mix Drivetrain you get high end brakes and suspension wich matters alot more that the drivetrain. This Bike is much better speced imo than a Nomad S for example.
  • 2 0
 @boozed: If you keep em lubricated and cleaned obsessively, we all know the coatings on those NX are chinesium compared to GX and especially to the gold standard X01
  • 4 0
 I am pretty stoked on the build kits. Factory suspension across the builds! Who cares how it shifts
  • 1 0
 @sspiff: Yeah brakes definitely take priority here. I will say though that I swapped my RS levers to RSC on my last bike and didn't notice too much difference. Contact adjust is nice but I dont feel like it changes too much. The swing link is the real game changer for me and since the RS has it, I feel like it does everything I need.
  • 7 0
 Still better than the other DW Link Supa Boost brand doing an “XT build” when literally the only XT component is the derailleur
  • 4 1
 @nicoenduro: If you need a certain spec level at the $6K price point, maybe boutique carbon isn't for you. Maybe a Commencal is a better option.
My point is that while in a blind test, no one would know - other than the shifter - what drivetrain they had. If you can tell me you can tell a GX from NX crank while riding, or derailleur, I call BS.
Brakes, on the other hand, are top level SRAM, because they actually make a difference. (maybe a RS vs. RSC can be debated, but they what they didn't do is spec an R Guide.)
  • 111 3
 I know they're calling it an HD6, but I'll be long dead in the cold, cold ground before I refer to it as anything but a Ripmore.
  • 2 1
 Nailed it. Dayum! #ripmore
  • 18 1
 *Ripmost
  • 25 0
 @jgoldfield: no no no, the Ripmost can take dual crown forks.
  • 15 0
 @jesse-effing-edwards: they missed an opportunity by not signing Jack and calling it the RipMoir.
  • 4 2
 @dreamlink87: check out the Loam Ranger’s recent video he did on this bike Smile
  • 62 5
 it looks really good, but they dropped the ball big time with the same CS in all sizes... 435 combined with 541 reach, yeah right!!
  • 6 1
 Totally agree
  • 4 1
 Interesting that they changed the seat tube angle per size, but not the chainstay.

That said, while I'm personally on the side of "team long, or at least size specific" chainstays, I do know plenty of people like short chainstays.

At least there are some brands now with longer stays (Forbidden, Norco, Banshee, etc).
  • 12 6
 As a solid XXL (6'5"+) I'm here for short chain stays- steepening STA as the sizes move up is the ideal way to keep climbing reasonable while keeping the bike a little nippier. My Pole Evolink with 455mm chainstays felt great while climbing seated, but took a noticeably long time to get the front end up/ load up for bunny hops. Don't think I'll ever go for anything over 440mm again!
  • 6 0
 @AlexBroach: That's interesting. I'm 6'6" and was on Geometron sizing for years but concluded that even if a 1350 wheelbase is the proportional fit for me it's impractical to actually ride. I tried an XXL Hightower for a trail bike and that's totally fine. And if we really look at it, a 5mm change in rear center length is very very small. With the steeper ESTA maybe this is just the ticket. Who knows. The stack doesn't make sense though given how short the head tube is.
  • 12 0
 @ocnlogan:
"Interesting that they changed the seat tube angle per size, but not the chainstay."

They're making a new front triangle mold per size anyway. Using a single rear triangle mold cuts costs.
  • 18 0
 @ocnlogan: flip chips are such an easy way to give people options. I don’t know why every bike doesn’t have some sort of flip chip or drop out for the chain stays. +/- 10mm!
  • 6 0
 @jdejace:

Doing size specific chainstays doesn’t require separate rear molds.

Norco and others actually just change the location of the main pivot on the front triangle (that as you said is going to be size specific either way).

@danielomeara

I totally agree. I love how some brands do this (the Kona Process X is adjustable between 435-450mm in one 15mm movement, while RAAW offers 5 and 10mm of adjustment on the Madonna).

But, was saying at least now there are some brands that offer longer stays now. For a while it seemed like everything was “as short of stays as physically possible”.

Currently I’m on a Banshee Titan with 452mm chainstays, and loving it.
  • 8 2
 @danielomeara: because that would change the leverage on the rear shock.
  • 1 0
 Adjustable chainstays would have made sense here for sure. For myself, I have a long torso and short legs so sizing is always weird. I like shorter chainstays with longer wheelbase bikes because when I get on the back wheel I don't need to front to be as high, nor do I have to preload and pull as hard. But that's me and my issues.
  • 6 0
 @hangdogr: I have long legs but still agree.. with long chain stays I had to plan my bunny hops in advance because it took so damn long to load up and pull through the bike. Long front end and slack head tube still make things feel stable without slowing down the handling as much
  • 4 0
 I typically ride bikes with chainstays 425-435, current bike is 430 (Zerode Taniwha Trail Mullet).

I just picked up a Lenz Fatillac which sports a chainstay that’s a mere 415mm! It’s my second Fatillac so I kinda remember how it rides…

And all I Hotta say is “wow this thing is agile!, and it gives up nothing in high speed stability.
  • 1 0
 @ocnlogan: maybe something about the linkage or frame design makes altering the pivot points a-la Santa Cruz impractical. But fair point.
  • 6 5
 @AlexBroach: 6ft 2. Perfect size for me is 495 reach and 445 chainstay. 440 is too short especially for someone your size, balance is important
  • 1 0
 @alexsin: is like they put out this extra cms from the fork from the stack wich makes sense...
  • 5 1
 Yes, it’s simple math that explains why they should change chainstay lengths (balance), and why they don’t (expensive).
  • 3 0
 Totally agree. I'm on a large mondraker with 490 reach and 435 chainstay and it's just not balanced enough for high speed. 440 on a large bike is in my mind perfect and most brands have landed on this as well.
  • 3 3
 Disagree. Seems perfect to me, because I don't want any bike to have cs over 435. You buy something else and I would take this if I could. Even at 430 cs i still found 510 reach to feel short up front
  • 3 1
 @danielomeara: simple answer is you can't run UDH and the new SRAM transmission set up with a flip chip - same reason Santa Cruz dropped the flip chip from the new generation of Megatowers.
  • 3 0
 @hayden19: mostly agree, but isn't riding style a factor? I think some riders with a really pumpy style don't mind the lack of balance because they generating force to make traction, not just letting their weight do it
  • 2 1
 @danielomeara: i agree that flip chips do make sense/ if they made it super adjustable all those adustable features /chainstay length/reach/HA/STA/BB adjustabillity would add a little bit of weight… and being this is a dedicated race bike, i can understand why ibis has excluded them
  • 2 0
 Good for us Medium folks Wink
  • 3 2
 @ocnlogan: Easy, us big fellas can just sit down at all times on the descents and we will have a really balanced ride!!!!

I'll just put 50mm of headset spacers in and I'm ready to have the ultimate bike. Great inclusive bike design Ibis!
  • 5 3
 @Dogl0rd: agreed. this will be a great enduro bike for XL/XXL sized riders who spent most their time doing manuals on pump tracks.

For those who like to ride rough janky fast trails, not so great....
  • 3 0
 @Jordmackay: I've given it a fair shot (ridden 455mm chain stays for 2 seasons)- it's not for my personal riding style. I agree that for seated climbing you run into issues with the front end getting too light on climbs, but the way I prefer for that to be countered is with a steeper seat tube angle. For descending and tech skills short chain stays feel great
  • 2 1
 @Linc: you can on a rocky mountain
  • 5 0
 @Jordmackay: I am 6'2" and have a bike with 435mm chainstays and honestly they are longer then I want to go. I am just finishing building a bike with 420mm chainstays. Although I also like a bit shorter bike then most people my size. But I like my bike to feel generally like a big BMX. It is personally preference and what trails you have.
  • 1 3
 @AlexBroach: Depending on your reach it also feels out balanced on the decents. over 490ish with a 435 you're weight is rearward so cornering becomes an issue keeping the front weighted. Also loses stability at high speeds. 445 mullet is the one !
  • 2 0
 Especially at this price point. Most dentist brands are doing at least 2 chainstay lengths.
  • 2 0
 @hayden19: I too had the Foxy 29 and it had lots of goodness but the lack of balance had me swearing away short chainstays on L/ XL bikes forever.
The new HD6 looks like a solid choice for a size S/ M rider however.
  • 6 6
 I call BS on people claiming 5mm of chainstay length either way makes a noticeable difference on a bike with a 1250mm wheelbase.
  • 1 0
 @mjlee2003: Their flip chip design only allows UDH in 'long' setting, which isn't a great outcome.
  • 3 0
 @VtVolk: well, you're wrong. At least in my case.

I will admit that steeper STA's might negate some of the need for long chainstays. YTBD.
  • 5 0
 @SunsPSD: only for seated riding. When you stand up the seat angle is irrelevant.
  • 3 1
 @VtVolk: I call BS on people who don't find a more balanced geometry easier and more comfortable to ride.

Stupid short chains stays means you have to ride constantly in an extremely aggressive attack position just to maintain front wheel traction. This is massively fatiguing!
  • 4 0
 @ponyboy24: but these are short, not stupid short
  • 3 2
 @Dogl0rd: Sizes 4 & 5 would like to have a word with you... It wouldn't be so bad if say the rear end was the 435, but the hta was 66' and the travel was 120mm, then as a ratio it's not so far off. But when you are talking an Enduro bike, you really need a matching rear end to match how far out that front axle is.
  • 5 0
 @ponyboy24: Yep. I had a bike that on flat turns in particular I had to put a lot of mental effort and thought in to placing as much weight as possible on the front end, or the front end just wouldn't stick well. It became exhausting and just wasn't ideal when you were encountering rough terrain or a change of trail conditions mid turn.
Never again.
  • 2 0
 @SunsPSD: yeah you're not wrong there, concur
  • 40 3
 This looks super exciting to me - with the weight, pedaling, head angle, a lot more versatile and balanced than "mullet 165mm" sounds on paper. It's two pounds lighter than some close competitors in equal spec - with more travel. Not sure what to compare it to right now. Pretty stoked for Ibis.
  • 12 0
 Yeah! This hits all the checkboxes for me. And I really like the company, or the folks I’ve met. My next bigger bike.
  • 5 0
 I think you could compare it to the Niner WFO.
  • 5 0
 If it's 2 pounds lighter with equal specs, what you are saying is that the frame is 2 pounds lighter.
What are those close competitors with 4,4kg carbon frames with shock?
For example Patrol is 3,36kg
  • 3 0
 Tryout a Forbidden Dreadnought or new druid v2 as well
  • 4 5
 Agreed. Its kinda like the Stumpy EVO we all wanted...very interested in the review on this.
  • 2 0
 @Offrhodes: Was going to write the same. I've got one and it is similar, other than the Niner is full niner instead of mullet.
  • 33 0
 Uh oh... it has a straight top tube... and clean lines... Ibis are you okay? We're here to talk
  • 40 6
 This new DW-link Capra MX looks awesome
  • 27 0
 Wow - Ibis made a good looking bike!
  • 26 1
 Now Ibis can finally stop pretending the Ripmo is a big bike and spec it with the Fox 36.
  • 6 5
 Ripmo with a 38 rides great from the short test ride I did.
  • 10 0
 I never checked out a Rimpo up close until recently. My buddy's large Ripmo, with XTR and a 36 Factory, weighs 32 lbs. All this to say, I also think the 38 is overkill on the Ripmo when it can be a light All-Mountain bike, instead of pretending to be a big travel enduro bike.
  • 4 2
 @ZSchnei: yup, it was all marketing. Slap a 38 on it and come ride what their enduro team (was) riding! Failing to mention the team's frames were far from stock
  • 10 3
 @peterman1234: I'm a big believer in less can be more. Fox 36, 140/150mm rear travel, 64 degree head angle, etc. People are over bike, over forked, less informed, and more presuaded by marketing than ever. Now I'm going off on a tangent, whoops.
  • 3 0
 @ZSchnei: I was worried I'd be held back on descents going from a Spec. Enduro to a Pivot Switchblade last fall. But it takes so much less energy on both the climb and descent that I'm loving it. Straight line speed on a gnarly trail is a touch slower, sure, but I'm just as quick through the corners
  • 2 0
 @ZSchnei: that really depends on where you ride, your skill level, and how much you weigh.
  • 3 0
 I have a "Traction Tune" 38 from a Ripmo on my Giant Reign and it feels Niiice! Fox-fork rebound is usually super slow, so I appreciate the balanced feel.
  • 1 0
 @haen: I agree with you to an extent, but I'd argue that skill level and weight are sometimes an excuse to get a bigger bike, when in reality the understanding and proper setup of a bike would benefit the rider more.

Like I said, I'm just going off on a tangent not related to this article. The new HD6 is a pretty sick bike!
  • 1 0
 100% agree. I picked up a used Ripmo with a 36 factory and a Topaz, and it seems like the perfect suspension choice for this bike.
  • 25 2
 This Ibis will really do the job.
  • 5 0
 yes you got to hand it to them
  • 16 0
 I think they'd sell a lot more ripmo's if the frames looked like this.
  • 6 0
 I'd pretty much guarantee you that the next generation will.
  • 20 5
 Why do bike manufacturers still spec a grenade as a shock? Who wants to send in their shock every 2 months?
  • 12 13
 I’ve had two of these “grenades” and they’ve been flawless. On my third one now and it’s also been perfect. Maybe you are drinking the PB kool aid?
  • 13 1
 @BermJunky: yeah the "kool-aid" while every rider in my friend group who rides a x2 blew this shock at least one time apart. of course that is anecdotical, but it is matching the experiences of many people online
  • 2 2
 @bashhard: I've warrantied a couple but they are still my favorite air shock. All my ohlins shocks have been flawless but I still want an x2 on any long travel bike I own where air is preferred.
  • 3 0
 @foggnm: @foggnm: Why X2 over ohlins? I'm getting ready to buy and was leaning towards ohlins.
  • 4 2
 @bashhard word is that running spec changes have largely addressed the reliability issues with the X2. Any X2 labeled 2024 will have the updated internals, and I understand they're being super easy-going on X2 warranty claims.

The X2 has gotten a bad rap over the past couple of years, and I don't think it's baseless, but for as many as are out there, I think it's not as widespread as the PB comment section would lead one to believe. I've been fortunate enough to not really have had any problems with mine across multiple units. I had one get a little squelchy, but it was way past its service interval and getting it serviced took care of it. I can't fault the unit there.
  • 10 1
 To me, it’s a bummer to see all CS the same size from Small through XXL. It simply shows you prioritize costs saving over everyone having the same ride qualities. It’s a lousy route to save money IMO.
But that said, you can see by their GX kit how they feel about saving a buck already..
  • 10 1
 Thank you Ibis/PB for providing the real world weight of the frame.

Also thank you Ibis for having a frame only option, and at a somewhat reasonable price (relative to where the market is anyway)
  • 12 1
 Did they really name that color way wizard sleeve? Lol
  • 1 0
 honestly the most aggressive thing about this bike. But they are live-editing and it's now known as "Lavender Haze".

similar to "Star Destroyer Grey" chasing to "Starship Grey"
  • 8 1
 Santa Cruz locs know
  • 1 1
 @norcalbike: Was about to say the same thing..
  • 2 0
 @norcalbike: perfect bike for it
  • 3 1
 @bknorris: my Spire begs to differ
  • 9 2
 Suspension layout appears identical to the last version Firebird (DW with horizontal shock driven by tiny yoke). Not a bad thing, just an observation.
  • 7 0
 Dave Weagle might provide the pivot points in 3D space and then the manufacturers can design as they see fit around those points? I’m not sure on the workflow honestly.
  • 7 0
 Don't have the funds to buy one but, dear lord, do I love all three of the colorways.
  • 10 4
 I was about to buy this immediately as I love how my Ripmo rides and this looks amazing. But only mixed wheel version and no possibility to run 29 in the back... pass.
  • 4 0
 I'm sure they will update the ripmo soon with more travel. It is long overdue.
  • 3 0
 @foggnm: they actually updated it last year with a new chain stays. So not sure if they are going to overhaul it again so shortly.
  • 5 1
 That stack number in XXL don't add up. Yeah it's got a 180mm fork but a tiny 115mm head tube. And I'm to believe this bike has 15mm more stack than an XXL Megatower (which has a 170mm fork and a 150mm head tube)?
Ibis XXL stack: 685
Megatower XXL stack: 670
  • 4 0
 The reach on the XXL is also a huge jump from the XL and is markedly longer than XXL offerings from other brands like Specialized and Santa Cruz. Pair that with the short chainstay found throughout the range of sizes and it makes the XXL fairly weird. I'm 6'3" so I pay attention to XL vs XXL.
  • 13 0
 There's an error on the XXL geo - TT length is 685, Stack is actually 651 on the HD6. We'll fix it!
  • 4 2
 Saw this as well. Definitely a typo. XXL stack should be around 642mm with a 115mm head tube. The sizing on this bike is pretty disappointing.
  • 1 1
 @hans-heim: Could you comment on why the jump in reach from XL to XXL is so big and why not find a way to lengthen the rear center for the bigger sizes, even a bit? I think many of us are stoked that Ibis made such a beautiful XXL but there are some curious design choices in there.
  • 7 3
 This bike is definitely a step in the right direction, and the complete builds are more reasonable (not reasonable...just MORE reasonable) than some competitors. But there are some huge misses on this bike: a.) short head tube, b.) no size specific chainstays, c.) no in frame storage, d.) mullet-only.

If I were to guess, I'd say that Ibis will come out with a "full 29er" soon - but it will probably be watered down in the rear-travel department, which will be a bummer. Fix the items above and leave me with a 180/170 29er and DW-Link suspension - woof. That would be a ripper!
  • 6 2
 Amazing how much better it looks with straight tubes. Now imagine it with the Ibis crest on the head tube. Still think that removing the crest was one of the biggest mistakes. Literally took the soul out of the bike instantly.
  • 8 2
 Sweet bike, just a bit disappointed this ended up being a mullet... still holding out for a longer travel 29er from them.
  • 6 0
 I hate that they mixed the white and yellow Maxxis logos. It’s messing with my OCD.
  • 8 1
 It looks really good. I need an AF version though. Please.
  • 1 0
 This is a raw/clearcoat AF version would be my next bike. C'mon Ibis!
  • 3 0
 Looks very good.
Geo for the larger sizes is not for me, and why is the seat tube measured in inches when everything else is in mm?
Head tube is crazy short, and agree it needs the full 29" option.

The short rear centre makes me wonder if DW LINK bikes don't run well with longer rear centres? Even Pivot size specific rear centres are still comparatively short.
  • 7 0
 I still miss the old headtube badge. But frame looks great overall
  • 4 1
 Why isn't there a standard for max seat post insertion? Make the standard 300mm, then report in every bike review if the large frame is negative or positive to this standard. This seems like a bike industry coverup that the bike media is pedaling for them. If any bikes are more than -10mm to the standard, they should be roasted in the first paragraph of the review.

@mikekazimer

Is this why Levy disappeared, he was trying to speak freely about max insertion depths?
  • 1 0
 Seat tube length is an important part of that equation - a totally straight seat tube doesn't really matter if it's so long that you can't run a decent sized dropper. With the HD6, the seat tube lengths are nice and short (406mm for a large), and the remaining seat tube leaves plenty of room for a long travel dropper.
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer: Fair point! There is just nothing worse than buying a new frame and having your 200mm dropper (or any length dropper) sticking up an inch or two higher than your comfortable with. Effectively I'd like the equivalent of a 200mm dropper all the way in on a 450mm seat tube, so if the 406mm seat tube could have 44mm less max insertion theoretically.
  • 5 0
 I assume this is the rig that was "spotted" a few months back at a race or some bike park?
  • 1 4
 Right. Their enduro team uses the Ripmo, but my understanding was they had it amped up with some different link or something that made it longer travel in the back and made the geometry more aggressive. I assume this is basically what became of that.
  • 6 0
 Good looking, including the paint. Want.
  • 6 1
 WANT. My Ripmo AF is the best all rounder I’ve had. This looks better in every aspect.
  • 5 2
 totally. Apart from the mixed wheels. Full 29 version must be on its way surely...
  • 4 0
 Looks like they improved the chainstay protector. The previous ones looked super basic and not the best for really quieting chainslap.
  • 5 0
 Here's hoping they release an AF version, that bike would definitely be on my short list.
  • 3 0
 I still own the HD3 and HD4, never liked the HD5, awful toptube, but this iteration I genuinely like, would I swap it for my Yeti SB160, very possibly if it rides as good as it looks.
  • 6 0
 32lbs for a 165/180 bike is nuts. What a slick looking bike
  • 3 1
 "I'm also curious how it would perform with a slightly slacker head angle" -> Looks like all the benefits you said before in your sentences "but it's not a big, sprawling beast [...] that's not overly demanding to ride" would disappear if that bike was made with a slacker head angle, like the others.
So I think it's way better like that ! Not all the bikes should ride and look the same...
  • 3 0
 @Voxran The last two bikes I've ridden/owned had 63.5 HA with 170mm forks so seeing this with a 180 fork and a steeper HA seems odd. Ibis has always stayed on the conservative side of things so while this pairing seems strange it is in line with their MO. It is almost like Ibis looked at slacker bikes and said maybe that's too much. I personally disagree, but that's my not problem as keyboard warrior bike designer.

Nevertheless, this could be easily rectified with a 170mm fork and -1 angle adjust headset. Additionally, I don't believe it would have much if any negative impacts on the bikes handling as there would be little to no measurable change to the wheel base. Having a 170 fork would make it more balanced and the only possible downside I see would be the slightly slackened SA which you could manage by simply sliding the saddle forward.

@andelinc Agreed. This also makes me suspect that the Ripmo will get revised or simply disappear.
  • 4 0
 @hellbelly: the SA will get steeper with a shorter fork
  • 1 0
 @MartinKS: True. I got it backwards when thinking about the installation of a -1 angle adjust headset. So even better. I was never great at math.
  • 5 0
 The spec on that GX build is so good. Code RSC brakes, solid suspension and then save some cost on the drivetrain.
  • 5 0
 Removing the older waaaay longer shock extender makes quite a difference too, it's not all about the straight top tube.
  • 2 1
 I'll go ahead and touch on the subject of colors for these. How in the name of all that is holy do you arrive at these colors? They couldn't have picked three of the least desirable colors. Im in the market for a bike in this range and the colors alone are a hard pass.
  • 4 1
 Gasp! Where is the kinked top tube? I can’t believe they would abandon their traditions like this. Rabble, rabble, rabble…
  • 4 0
 Looking at these comments I guess I am the only one who prefers the kink
  • 5 0
 @cdst: too much kink shaming on this site, you do you
  • 5 0
 Still got it’s mojo hidden in there
  • 34 32
 That headtube length is a deal-breaker. Why on earth would you make it so short?? Most people seem to be looking for a higher front-end these days, not a lower one. I would need an 70mm rise handlebar with this frame...!
  • 72 10
 You mean they didn't consult you on the geo??
  • 38 0
 At least you can buy all those forks on pinkbike with 6 inch steerer tubes.
  • 2 5
 Agreed, that's also not the best area to skimp on material. Curious if this affects steerer bearing life. But, hey, the stack numbers are reasonable and Ibis knows what they're doing!
  • 26 2
 Doesn't a smaller Head tube just allow more adjustability? You can still add spacers to reach the same, or go with less spacers and a higher rise handlebar for effectively more reach.
  • 5 0
 With that long a fork I can see the reasoning to keep the stack height in check but the frame is weaker and puts more stress on the steerer. Looking it the geo chart the stack isn't as low as you would think.
  • 5 0
 I thought the same- but the stack height is actually decently high. XXL sentinel has 649mm stack with 140mm head tube, this in XXL has 685mm stack with 115mm head tube. Not sure how increasing the stack 15mm from XL to XXL manages to bump the stack up 47mm though...
  • 7 2
 @Roost66: LOL so true. It's amazing how many people seem clueless to the fact that cutting your steering so short basically sets the resale value of your fork to zero.
  • 4 1
 @michaelandk2: I don't think you quite can. Extra spacers should decrease both reach (BB -> steerer) and effective reach (BB -> grips), and less spacers and a higher rise bar should maintain effective reach, but do so by decreasing reach and increasing effective stem length (steerer -> grips). In either case you end up with less reach and a bike that rides differently relative to just having a taller head tube in the first place. But then I guess as long as the seat tube is short enough you can theoretically size up and offset the lost reach that way. I have no idea if the seat tube is short enough on this bike though, as for some reason it's reported in inches?
  • 3 2
 @JonnyTheWeasel: lol! Outrageous isn't it??
  • 5 0
 @AlexBroach: I don't understand how the XXL could have such massive stack numbers with a super short head tube. It doesn’t make any sense.
  • 2 0
 Nothing wrong with a 70mm riser bar. Pretty standard in moto and it enhances your standover clearance.
  • 2 0
 @tremeer023: running a 50mm on my bike
  • 3 0
 Ihttps://bemorebikes.com/

This on the XXL would sell like hot cakes!
  • 4 0
 @danielomeara: Hans from Ibis replies to this lower down. Stack number for XXL should be 651.
  • 2 0
 @AlexBroach: the XXL stack height is almost certainly a typo.
  • 2 2
 @danprisk: I think a taller head tube is going to do the same thing as more spacers … right? It’s still on the same axis as the fork, just like the spacers wilould be.
  • 1 0
 @michaelandk2: Sure, if you just made the head tube taller and didn't change anything else. But I think when people say they want a taller head tube they usually mean they don't want any of the other numbers to change, which would effectively mean stretching the front triangle a little longer to maintain the reach numbers.
  • 3 1
 I think the stack is low because it rides well with short chainstays. You don't have to weight the bars consciously as much
  • 1 4
 because dear sir, it’s much easier to use riser bars, a riser stem, and stem spacers to raise the front end than it is to drop the front end. It’s just math.
  • 3 2
 When did we start giving a rip about head tube length?
  • 4 0
 You're missing that the frame uses ZS bearing cups - so it's super easy to extend the head tube length by using EC cups (unlike Santacruz for example that uses IS headsets)
  • 4 1
 Once again, this is an enduro race bike “front wheel traction”!!!!! Not for beach cruising

But I’m with you, I’d prefer a more traditional length headtube/ but i must say, i’m a fan of the looks of a shorter head tube
  • 1 0
 @michaelandk2: How many "higher rise" handlebars are there actually available on the market these days? Proper width and taller than 40mm. I can think of Spank and Deity doing a 50mm with a 760mm width minimum. Any others you know of?
  • 3 0
 @elgwpo: + Pro taper, Burgtec, Ergotec. Plenty of brands do it.
  • 3 0
 @elgwpo: plenty of 50mm bars out there. Once you get to 60mm+ there are fewer options and they tend to lean towards the bikepacking market and have more backsweep.
  • 1 0
 @elgwpo: Enve M9
  • 1 0
 @elgwpo: I use some deity 50m rise bars that are pretty great.
  • 1 0
 @elgwpo: oh… other ones idk. Sounds like others know. I’d just rock the deity’s though, they are solid and reasonable.
  • 2 1
 @elgwpo: All you guys can run BMX bars and stem. Plenty of those over 40mm.
  • 5 0
 looks like a YT, but first ever good looking ibis
  • 5 0
 Great job ibis! That purple is really cool.
  • 3 1
 It's perfect in almost every way. Travel, geometry, suspension platform, colors, looks it's all there. Huge mistake you can't make it a full 29er. Ibis should've made this frame compatible for both options
  • 1 0
 And cassette. You get Fox Factory suspension though. Most brands’ GX gets you Fox Performance.
  • 1 0
 Ignore my reply below. My fat fingers replied to the wrong comment.
  • 4 0
 This bike will forever be know as the "Ripmore"
  • 1 0
 Then what is the Ripmost?
  • 1 0
 @cdst: DH bike
  • 4 0
 Sram Code RSC on cheaper build. Not bad!
  • 4 0
 Men of a certain age in Sweden, fire up the credit cards!
  • 4 0
 This bike is less kinky than I was promised.
  • 3 0
 I don't need a new bike right now (well, I do, but..) and I don't need this much bike, but that thing is very hot.
  • 4 0
 short headtube FTMFW actually. hate riding monster trucks.
  • 4 3
 Why don't companies make intermediate sizes towards the middle of the bell-curve for height, i.e. medium-large sizes? 454 is is too short and 580 too long for a loooooooooot of people
  • 2 0
 I don’t understand why companies are putting such short head tubes on bikes so it forces people to run a ton of hideous spacers.
  • 1 0
 @WasatchEnduro: Does use ZS cups and will take an angleset. Also a single offset bushing on the clevis end mount would drop the HA into the magical super gnar shred guy 63 degree realm
  • 1 1
 Best looking IBIS I have seen for sure. Just not a big fan of the colors. Now, I'd like to see them just make a couple frames with that design. 140-150mm rear 150-160mm front all-mountain analog rig and a lightweight ebike rig, both with same travel.
  • 1 1
 Part of me wanted this bike to have super enduro geo given its travel and the fact Ibis hasn't gone to the dark side yet, but alot of me is glad they didn't. Would love to see an AF version that pushes the geo boundaries a little more.
  • 1 0
 serious question: in the pics, the chain is close to the seatstay with a 32T chainring and the chain sitting on the 4th/5th cog.
@mikekazimer would it be possible to run a 28T chainring and still use the 10T cog?
  • 4 0
 Eye candy!
  • 3 0
 It's lighter cause they ditched the head tube badge
  • 3 0
 Frame looks like a Yeti !50\160
  • 1 0
 Exactly!!!
  • 5 2
 Oh they made the last version of the Pivot Firebird. Nice looking bike!
  • 3 1
 Does RockShox even do OEM anymore? Fox seems to have locked-in every decent sized bike company the last couple years.
  • 1 0
 They do but it seems like only for race teams that ride for them like trek and canyon
  • 5 2
 Points for offering more than 2 colors (looking at you Santa Cruz)
  • 2 1
 this looks like a return to the sexy paint schemes of 2015. I'm all for it. No more burgundy-colored frames or 'earthy' colors. make bikes look exotic again!
  • 1 0
 is the reach a bit short compared to the longer top tube length? i assume because st angle is a bit softer, compared to a transition anyway?
  • 1 1
 Going to say it - why does it get to be called a GX spec when the only thing that is GX is the rear derailleur. Please Ibis - spec the bike with the rest of the GX kit. I'd pay the difference.
  • 2 0
 I'm curious about AF version, which I would approve of. Also, @ibiscycles would this be doable with a 170?
  • 1 0
 ha! that was actually one of my first thoughts too. I think it'd still be balanced against that smaller rear wheel with a hair less travel. 170 on the ripmo currently and I never need more up front but every now and then could use more out back.
  • 2 3
 Short head tube is like a short seat tube with good insertion: it lets you size up for longer wheelbase and reach, without the cockpit being too tall. And don't whine about needing spacers: run a high-rise bar. It looks way better than super tall headtubes or a ton of spacers anyways.
  • 2 0
 Also it's a 180 fork on top of a 29" wheel so it be a tall one to begin with
  • 1 0
 And how tall are you?
  • 1 1
 Best looking Ibis ever for sure. Ticks every box for me except that head tube length… wtf. I would need 45mm of spacers to equal my current bar height and that is straight up unacceptable.
  • 4 0
 Ibis Capra
  • 3 0
 IBISualized my self riding this bike
  • 2 0
 What’s the weight of your xt build kit?
  • 14 0
 Nevermind I learned how to read
  • 6 1
 @Grady-Harris: Doubt it. You're still on PB Wink
  • 2 0
 Dang, finally an ibis I would consider
  • 3 1
 Fits the Porkchop frame bag?!?! I’m in!
  • 2 0
 Love my pork chop!
  • 3 0
 Ibis'ness time.
  • 3 0
 You know how I know?
Because it's Wednesday
And Wednesday night is the night that we usually make love
Monday night is my night to cook
Tuesday night, we go and visit your mother
But Wednesday, we make sweet, weekly love
  • 1 0
 Photo bikes must be pressed for availability mixing up the white and yellow maxxis logos
  • 5 5
 At this price point the CS length should increase with the frame size, or be adjustable. But the shock is a deal breaker anyway so …
  • 5 1
 Isn't the X2 updated/fixed? I know the 2023 and before version were... uhh problematic.

Guess they don't really say whether it's the updated x2 or not.
  • 3 0
 Dang! Good job, Ibis.
  • 2 0
 Finally! An Ibis that doesn’t look like crap!
  • 2 0
 sweet new ibis sb-blackthorn
  • 2 0
 Are my eyes deceiving me. A STRAIGHT TOP TUBE What a beauty
  • 2 0
 I just bought a Bronson... Now I want this...
  • 2 0
 Nice bike! Chain looks too close to CS when on small cog.
  • 2 0
 This looks really good Ibis, good job!
  • 1 0
 So, 91mm headtube and a 630 stack (large) is this like a kids large or ???? when do they release the adult versions
  • 1 0
 Get a Bemore Bikes reverse stem for it, you'll be fine
  • 1 1
 Should the suspension work like a yeti? all that infinity sistem with mini fox suspension should do almost the same work that that little d-w link does.
  • 2 0
 Doesn't look like an Ibis
  • 1 0
 Ytis, Pivis…

It Looks like a bike, only so many variations you can do with a bike
  • 2 0
 How much more is a GX shifter than an NX shifter? What gives?
  • 1 0
 Stunning and 435 chainstay on an xl frame is just the right ammount of manual fun a guy needs. Uk retailers needed.
  • 14 16
 That's a damn good looking bike.

But $6899 for an SLX build when other companies have SLX builds under $4000? Literally a $3300 upcharge over a Spectral with SLX, for example? Yeesh. That's a hard sell.
  • 20 3
 Remember it’s not consumer direct and the spectral has lower tier suspension
  • 2 21
flag cashew (Jun 27, 2023 at 9:11) (Below Threshold)
 @Grady-Harris: lower tier suspension? BS.
  • 6 14
flag rickybobby19 (Jun 27, 2023 at 9:12) (Below Threshold)
 @Grady-Harris: yeah, but SLX and factory are two different spec tiers that don't make sense together. An SLX buyer is looking for more value, so put a lower tier suspension spec on that build. No idea why they have factory across the line.

And yeah I know Canyon is consumer direct, but it's two comparable bikes.
  • 28 1
 I don’t think that’s a fair comparison. The Ibis comes with top level factory suspension and a Bikeyoke dropper vs the canyon you’re talking about has performance suspension with a rhythm fork and canyon branded dropper. I actually think that these builds seem like decent value, factory suspension on all models is a nice choice. The two lower level builds are exactly what pinkbike commenters are always after. High end suspension, good enough drivetrain.
  • 25 0
 @rickybobby19: I disagree that factory suspension and slx can’t be mixed. Most people could feel the benefit of solid suspension, but an slx drivetrain vs xt or xtr is a lot less important to most.
  • 6 11
flag rickybobby19 (Jun 27, 2023 at 9:16) (Below Threshold)
 @Grady-Harris: I could literally buy a SLX Spectral AND a really nice gravel bike, or hardtail, or road bike, or bike trip for the same price as the SLX HD6. That's nuts. You could almost buy two SLX Spectrals for the price of one SLX HD6.
  • 11 0
 @rickybobby19: wrong. I have a ‘21 Ripmo, SLX build with factory suspension. It’s all about min-maxing and putting $ where it matters.
  • 27 0
 @rickybobby19: Give me slx with factory over xtr with rythm any day of the year.
  • 6 7
 @rickybobby19:
then you should. lucky you, riding a Canyon and another cheap bike
This looks like a bike for more discerning riders
  • 8 10
 @Junkdogbicycle: ha! Same component suppliers, frames both made overseas, “discerning riders” lol
  • 6 2
 @rickybobby19: Go buy your Spectral then. Compare with other non-direct business models.
  • 2 0
 Why is SLX $800 more than GX?

I thought GX was more expensive.
  • 4 0
 @Roost66: As mentioned above, the GX kit has NX mixed in (as usual).
  • 3 0
 @mammal: Still, the SLX cassette is $105 while GX is $231.
Slx brakes are 186 per brake and code RSCs are $264.
NX shifter on the GX build is a bit of a s**t move but at least there still is a 520% range.
  • 2 0
 @Roost66: I'm sure the prices reflect their costs for the OEM goods, which don't necessarily reflect the MSRP. From your price list there, I'd suggest that Sram is gouging on their MSRP.
  • 3 0
 don't you dare question a bikes pricing unless it's a yeti. if it's yeti, have at it.
  • 10 1
 @rickybobby19: or you could get 22 GT Adult Aggressor Pro Mountain Bikes! That’s definitely the best option (sold at a few stores for $300 right now, definitely best value)

Not sure why you insist on comparing to a consumer direct, lower end spec bike lol. And given the choice between a DW link or Horst link, I think DW is superior as well.
  • 4 0
 @Roost66: Bikeyoke seatpost on the SLX too.
  • 2 0
 @Roost66: GX is about to get a new update any time so OEM kits are priced with a big discounts
  • 4 0
 Disagree: huuuuuuge difference btw your SLX comparison:
1/ Fox Factory-level suspension across the board;
2/ DW-link vs Horst link: it is not debatable that a DW is a much, much more efficient pedaler than any Horst (that may matter to you or it may not);
3/ Re-sale either frame or complete of an Ibis dwarfs that of a Canyon;
4/ Ibis (a premium brand by anyone’s definition) and a consumer-direct brand comparison will always be a false conceit, because each sales model Brings its own advantages and disadvantages
  • 2 2
 @rickybobby19: they have factory across the line because they were able to get a bulk deal from fox that incentivized them to spend more money.
  • 3 0
 It's a smaller brand. They do less units. They have tighter and higher production standards... and it's NOT consumer direct. All of that feeds into prices.

Want a consumer direct bike, buy one. Want a higher end boutique bike... buy one. You an't put Yeti, SC, Ibis or any of these other brands on the same playing field as a Spectral.

I mean.... you can buy an NS hard tail frame for like $400... a Chameleon is $1100.... That logo costs money.
  • 5 4
 It looks like a YT, I don't like it.
  • 2 1
 I wish I had one of those frames, size large in orange.
  • 1 0
 Chart says shipping globally mid June...
  • 1 0
 So who has the seatube size wrong? Pinkbike or Ibis?
  • 2 0
 I think the Ibis site is wrong. Ibis just sent out their announcement email and it lists 34.9:

"34.9mm seat tube ID for stiffness and durability with droppers over 200mm"
  • 2 1
 Looks great, but looks like a Capra and the SB160
  • 1 0
 Had to double check if this beauty is for sure IBIS
  • 1 0
 So they can make a bike that doesn't look like crap. Bravo!
  • 1 0
 Makes me stoked for the next gen Ripmo!!
  • 1 0
 I didn't think ibis was capable of making a visually appealing bike. Lol
  • 1 0
 One in million attempts goes the right way ive heard, fin a fkn lly...
  • 2 0
 Love the new Capra!
  • 1 0
 Alot of money for a fairly standard specced bike
  • 1 0
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 short chainstays are short
  • 1 0
 Looks like a...... Yeti?
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 NO KINK!! finally
  • 1 0
 That's nice.
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 No stupid frame bushings?
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 I don't know if they used *stupid* bushings, but it does use bushings: "The frame is covered by a lifetime warranty, a warranty that also covers the bushings used on the lower link."

I've had zero issues with the bushings on my 5-year-old Ripmo.
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 Correct. These bushings are smart.
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 Beautiful bike!
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 The seat tube on the size small is kinda long
  • 1 1
 Was excited about this…. But, meh.
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 Hard to imagine this coming from the same group that brought us the Oso.
  • 1 1
 Great job Ibis...first time i'll ever consider buying your brand. Bravo.
  • 1 0
 doesnt look like ibis
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 the weight!
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 Best looking Ibis I've 'er seen.
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 Pivot Firebird!! Lol
  • 4 4
 Sweet Gen 3 Nomad
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 Chain stays too short for this purpose.
  • 2 2
 nope. Long chainstays were a fad. Bike companies are starting to realize 430 - 440 is the ideal size. UNLESS all you do is pedal straight up and straight down steep stuff.
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 @tatchle1: 435 is fine for S-M but L and up need something longer for proper balance on the steeps.
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 Looks like a yeti, costs like a yeti
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 Not really. GX build with full fox factory for 6100. Yeti would never
  • 3 0
 @Ramoer: Yup, yeti is 7800
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 Looks like an Alchemy, which was designed by former Yetites, so yeah, I guess it's a Yeti.
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 agree, but 3lbs lighter though. i have a sb160 and im trying to figure out where the diff comes from...looks like pure frame weight
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 @lperezco: Switch Finity
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 @Otago: very much!
  • 1 2
 Frame storage?
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