The Rocky Mountain Altitude has been the race bike of choice for the Canadian company's enduro athletes, despite numbers that seemed fairly conservative relative to the competition. That's no longer the case, as the Altitude sees a full refresh with new geometry, suspension layout, frame features, and overall demeanor on trail. The
all-mountain enduro bike is out, and the go-fast bike is in.
The Altitude still sports 160mm of rear wheel travel, still has a host of adjustment features and flip chips, but is otherwise a completely new machine, save for the maple leaf on the top tube. There are alloy and carbon frame options, all with reach adjust headsets, Rocky's Ride-4 geo adjustment, and in-frame storage for the carbon bikes.
Altitude Details• 29" or Mixed wheels (27.5" size S)
• Carbon or alloy frame
• 160mm frame travel, 170mm fork
• 63-63.8° head angle
• 424-515mm reach
• 427-450mm chainstays
• 77-77.8° seat angle
• Wheel size and frame geometry flip chips
• Actual weight: 34.8 lb / 15.8 kg (size L)
• Price: $3,999-10,999 USD
• Frameset: $4,099 USD
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bikes.com Frame FeaturesFrom geometry adjustments to wheel size, in-frame storage to clean cable routing, the Altitude has a ton of little frame features to touch on.
Rocky pared down on the flip chip options for this bike, deleting 5 positions from their Ride-9 system to arrive at the current Ride-4. Located at the forward shock mount, it's essentially a slack/neutral/steep position adjuster with a top secret 4th position. At the lower shock mount is the rear wheel flip chip, allowing you to compensate for the geometry changes between a 27.5" and 29" wheel. The wheel size adjustment is not available on the size Small bike, which is 27.5" only.
The headtube has a racetrack-shaped headset, with nice press-in cups that allow you to adjust the reach figure by 5mm forward or rearward from the neutral position. This adjustment doesn't affect any other geometry in a significant way, so it's purely to dial in the bike's fit.
The downtube contains more than just increased stiffness, it's also home to Rocky's new Penalty Box storage system. The opening is huge, the hatch is very easy to open with one hand, and the hidden AirTag integration is a clever little detail. The bike comes with two storage bags, one with some organization and one with a more cram-friendly design. Overall it's a very nicely executed take on the trend, and justifies whatever added complication was required to achieve it.
Cable routing is fully guided and internal, but Rocky didn't simply punch some holes in the frame and call it good. There are bolt-on cable clamps at the front exit, allowing you to tighten the cables down in place and eliminate any rattling that might otherwise occur.
While the alloy frames don't get the Penalty Box treatment, all of the other frame features are incorporated. It feels worth noting that the bikes do use a 30.9mm seatpost, which is just as standard as 31.6mm, but feels much less common on longer-travel bikes these days.
GeometryThere are a few geometries to discuss here, thanks to Rocky's use of the Ride-4 geometry adjustment feature. From the Neutral position, adjusting to Slack or Steep changes the angles of the bike by about 0.3° to 0.5°, with an overall head angle adjustment range of 63 - 63.8°. The bottom bracket drop has a range of 11mm overall, with neutral sitting at 31mm in the full 29" position. Aside from the BB drop, the rear wheel size change doesn't radically affect the geometry, save for a millimeter here or there. The seat tube angle centers around 77.5°, again changing slightly depending on your Ride-4 position.
Reach numbers for the four sizes are as follows: 430mm (S) / 455mm (M) / 480mm (L) / 510mm (XL). Those are the figures with the Ride-4 in the Neutral position, and with the headset adjustment in the central setting. The Ride-4 can change reach by +3mm or -5mm, and the pop-in headset cups offer +/- 5mm of adjustment.
There are three rear center lengths spread across the range, none of which change with the wheel size adjustment or the Ride-4 position. Small bikes are 27.5" only, and the rear center measures 427mm. Mediums get a 440mm rear end, and Large and Extra Large bikes share a 450mm rear center length.
Suspension DesignFirst seen on the 2006 Slayer, Rocky has reintroduced their LC2R suspension system - a counter-rotating dual link design not dissimilar to the well-known VPP layout. A fairly high starting leverage of 3:1 coupled with a light compression shock tune makes for a very fluttery feeling top end of travel, while the high overall progression (36%) means things will ramp up quickly in the last 25mm of travel.
The main pivot is concentric to the bottom bracket, and each bike ships with a special tool to tighten that hardware. This requires removal of the crank and drive-side bottom bracket, but it's a straightforward and easy job.
Build KitsLots to choose from here, but I don't think there are any wasted spots in the Altitude's lineup. Each bike gets solid components for the price, without any major weak spots that you'll need to replace right off the bat. Coil or air, alloy or carbon, there's a spec and price point to cater to a wide variety of riders. For those who can't choose, or simply want to carry over parts from a different frame, there's a carbon frameset option.
Altitude Carbon Frameset // $4,099 USD, $4,999 CAD. Fox Factory shock, FSA Orbit No. 85 reach adjust headset.
Ride ImpressionsThe Altitude feels like a race bike. Over the handful of rides I've taken it on so far, it's happiest charging down rough tracks, popping deep off drops, and pushing braking until the last moment. It's manageable on mellower terrain, but feels a little unenthused unless you're really picking up speed. The geometry is long, the suspension is very active, and the chassis is stout - all making for something that comes alive at speed. The kinematic feels very progressive - which might not be for everybody - but it does track nicely over chattery terrain before ramping up aggressively deep in travel. I'm running a good bit more compression than I typically would and things feel nicely balanced.
On the frame, fit, and finish level, things are nicely polished on the Altitude. The Penalty Box is one of the best in-frame storage solutions I've encountered, and if it withstands the test of time it might just end up being a favorite. The bike is very quiet, thanks to clean cable routing and some well-placed chainslap protection. I've already begun playing around with the Ride-4 flip chip and the reach adjust headset, and both are easy enough to use on a regular basis, even trailside if you're careful.
From the get-go this bike felt confident in serious terrain, and capable of going very fast. I'm still dialing in the suspension settings and getting a feel for which geo positions I prefer, but the early impressions bode well for the long term test. Stay tuned for a full-fledged review in time.
Our advantages are that we offer multiple adjustments at the shock mounts to adjust the geometry and wheel sizing, whereas others brands do not. Additionally the kinematic aspects that we focused on were to increase our mid-travel support while not moving away from our progressive rate curves that we love to ride. Our suspension tends to feature a wider window of setup range making it easier to set up the bike to individual preferences. No chasing a narrow setup window that makes it frustrating for both first-time and experienced riders.
Why buy your new bike over the other offerings out there ??? whether that be a different manufacture or last years model of RM - basically whats better about this bike(and or your company) not just different.
The REAL real question is why a Horst Link? Why stick to the same thing if you can have better/different results by doing something different?
Original VPP is very different to current VPP. VPP is much stiffer and more reliable in my experience because of the short links
I’d buy one for the name.
I already have an RM ,and this bike looks good but so do a lot of others that have just come out - just trying to find the "why this one" -if being a Canadian brand means better /easier/faster warranty service then thats a real valid selling point
Yeah I'm not buying that...
Mom: "We already have Santa-Cruz at home"
BUT, I bought Nomad V6 frame for $1850 (incl. shipping and tax). Then got $150 gift card.
Nice slack HA, long chainstays and well-judged reach numbers. Useful adjustments too.
Good work RM. Not so sure about the pricing (especially here in the UK), but difficult to fault the bike on paper (seat tube maybe a touch long?)
We made sure to prioritize this on all frame sizes. On a size large, the max insertion depth is 290mm, tons of room!
"The chart shows seatpost fitment with the seatpost travel fully extended. This allows you to determine what the lowest or highest position
your seatpost can be set at for the correct height in a seated pedalling position. The chart will also help guide you in determining the size
seatpost to install if the OEM one isn’t the desired size. Please note that the dimension listed is from the center of the BB to the top of the
OEM saddle. Crankset length can influence the seated fit and should also be considered if that component is changed. "
I don't need a bike this big, but this seems like a winner.
I have ridden quite a few of long travel Rocky Mountains and that is kind of the one area that they don't do as well as some other options. IMO the phenomenon is across their lineup but it stands out more the longer the travel goes. I think Mike was hinting at the sensation being present in his Slayer review.
Interestingly, Alicia also described the Megatower as "harsh on chattery sections". I am curious, did the move to VPP improve this sensation for Rocky, and if so what is the tradeoff (nothing is perfect), or is it still a less-than-stellar area of performance on the platform?
Maybe it's far too early to tell.
Hope this helps, though a test ride in that exact situation is always going to be the best confirmation.
@RockyMountainBicycles: Since you're here, care to weigh in? Have you tried the Slayer with a progressive coil?
" I'm running a good bit more compression than I typically would and things feel nicely balanced."
What do you mean? Running more LSC and HSC on the shock or fork? Why?
M.
with a leverage curve that starts out at 3.1 (the larger the number the more apt it is to go into its travel) you might want to run more compression damping, to "quiet" the active nature of the rear suspension, and add some additional support.
They dont have a leverage curve grapg, but 36% progression, depending on the curve could feel a little abrupt near end of travel, so the additional compression damping will add some control, and take some of the abruptness out of larger hits
Dario is saying the frame has a lot of progression (higher leverage ratio early in the travel). So I'm guessing he's using more LSC damping so the bike doesn't feel underdamped in the first portion of the travel.
So, how/why do people use these things for theft recovery? If I’m going to put a tracker on a belonging I don’t want stolen, I don’t want that tracker alerting the thief to its presence—they’ll just remove it and my ability to track the thing is done. What am I missing? Can the owner configure this behavior when they set the device up?
1. it cost very little to integrate in the PB 2.0 cover
2. best scenario is a snatch and grab out of a pickup bed or something as you are grabbing coffee, and as the thief is making their getaway you have that small window to see roughly where they are / are heading. It may take them a while to figure out where the tag is, if they are even aware of it
3. why would you NOT stack the deck in your favour, and take EVERY precaution to recover a stolen bike?
It's not foolproof, but it's better than a poke in the eye.
Love that RM is pushing the envelope.
I wish there was space for an all mountain rig that prioritizes more all-around handling and weighs slightly less but still has the same travel as the Altitude.
I can't make it out on your site in specs for the turbine as it lists clamp size as 40mm and rise as 35. With a upsweep of 4° likely a typo but handy to know.
Also whats the deal with your dropouts? Can i carry a UDH as a replacement or is it your own hanger? Seems transmission compatible but doesn't look like a UDH.
All alloy and carbon models are UDH compatible!
How about some actual measurements, since storage compartments are now everywhere. It does look bigger than on a Santa Cruz or Trek, but certainly doesn't look "huge" compared to the opening on most Specialized models, and perhaps even smaller.
WOOOO! I think we finally found the next thing we can all take a position on and argue about online!
"What? Your storage is 45mm x 160mm? UNRIDABLE"
Maybe we can devolve into arguing the pros and cons of rectangular vs oval openings? Clearly oval will yield a 13% increase in enjoyment.
By total area, definitely bigger, and most importantly for getting long firm things (everyone's favorite) like a pump to go in easily, it's taller/longer by 6.66%!!
Thus obviously making my bike eminently more ridable, huzzah!
Also, everyone know squircles and rounded-rects are sooo much better than ovals. You see any oval smartphones out there? Didn't think so. The Palm Pre was probably the closest and that died a fast death, though arguably much too soon.
the don't make links for the current lineup as it is progressive AF. To a degree that you can run x2 without tokens
2021 Altitude has 40% progression in the neutral setting and it ramps up as you slacken it
Like this: www.pinkbike.com/photo/17673105
- Why the change?
- How thoroughly has the new design been tested?
Imitation is the best form of flattery - so of course they'd want to imitate Santa Cruz.
Altitude = the maybe less attractive lady that is not crazy and won’t drain your bank account, but absolutely the more reasonable and down to earth choice
It's just a waste of resources cause there's no way they will ever sell one. Just offer it from M onwards instead of trying to be "inclusive" and offering something that you know will have no demand.
430 is quite a big reach, pretty much what 162 to 172 person uses so not such a small size. I understand that way smaller sizes might sell better in 27.5 but that's just mainly because of kids. What kind of parent spends +5K on a bike for their kids though?
This decisions made by complete idiots make no sense and are actually not "inclusive".
No, if you're 155 cm tall a 27.5 wheel is probably a lot, lot easier to manage. A 29 inch wheel for someone 155cm is like a 35" wheel for me.
Also genius, how does that an MX make any difference in that?
I will push back as well on the idea that butt buzz is only a technique issue. Of course it can be, but sometimes we just need to get low and back.
How would you know? You're just guessing like the idiots from RM who made this kind of decisions.
We get it. Rocky are idiots and you're the expert on sizing.
Maybe take a break from pounding d*** and go for a ride?