It's the first race of the season and we hit the trails of Rotorua to see the bike set-ups ahead of this weekend's race, the Giant Toa Enduro in Rotorua, New Zealand.
Exactly, interesting to see so many different pressures being run by the men but weak answer from Jarred - I mean unless you run his exact tyres (which are probably proto anyway!) and rims it would be pointless copying him.
In a sense, the question is pretty pointless, as with all of the tyre manufacturers, sidewall types, various different 'rim defender' kits etc and different rider weights and styles pressure will be almost entirely down to the individual and setup, especially at this level where most will have done timed testing.
If I'm not mistaken, Jared has been plagued by flats ever since switching from Yeti (Maxxis) to Specialized. So why keep it a secret? Nobody want his luck with flats.
@herzalot: It was a weak answer. He should have either made something up, given a Sam Hill style "about half a thumb" answer, or just asked them not to put him in the video.
Jared came from that very competitive DH, 4X, BMX racing world philosophies, fork, shock setup, internals, tire pressure, etc... were all kept secret from team to team and they would sometimes give false numbers to throw other riders off if they decided to copy their settings. I don't hold it against him, its just how they were trained and the loyalty that he shows his team is commendable.
@mblar: as Waki wrote in the comment directly below, the information is of no use whatsoever to anyone but him. So why be so cagey?
Don't get me wrong, I think he's an awesome dude and one of my favourite riders. I hope he wins the title again this year.
No one else is the same weight, same bike, same riding style, same tyres... so how he thinks that information could in any way benefit the competition is a mystery to me.
@iamamodel - yea, but my riding buddy wants tubes, she doesn't get that in this instance it is tubes that can burp. I am thinking of cutting my hoses and going wireless @2bigwheels: yes I do. I don't know how could I miss that for so many years. Even when it rains it's good to drop some, allows for a longer rides and sometimes takes her to more than one top before you send it to flat
"What kind of tire pressure are you running?" "Well in the front I run about twenty f-- I mean, uh, fifty six. Yeah, fifty six psi. For sure. That's the real number."
it s very interesting to me to know what pressure these guys are running. it s curiosity. if you are not curious, why are you listening to these tech talk? if tire pressure is pointless for you, them just watch tv
quite the range, from as high as 30 to as low as 20. i'm surprised. i try and go as low as possible, around 20-24 and i'm 200lbs. much better on the wet roots n rocks.
How do people not break rims doing this? I ride super aggressively and live somewhere that is really rocky and I can't imagine running less than 30 in the rear (I weigh a bit less at 180lbs). I couldn't afford to replace rims left and right if I did.
@topherdagopher: pressure depends on the rim, tire (width mainly), etc. im 165lbs and i do not run 20 psi ;-) (i run 30psi, 2.25" 29" 24mm inner rim width) - which make tire pressure as a number fairly useless..
to be more realistic i could run 24-25psi for some down hills, but 30 is a better all-around for me on mixed terrain im sure a 200lbs guy would hit the rim on the first jump on my bike.
@topherdagopher: it's because these pros have new tires for every race, new rims for every race, and probably run a lower spoke tension to absorb those big hits. A lot may also run a system like procore. I doubt they are running "lightweight" casings. I'm 150 and struggle not to kill tires and rims @30 psi.
I have a few super rocky trails i frequent. I'm the same weight as you and use to use 30f/32r as a minimum on 25mm internal rims to prevent damage.
On 30.5mm internals and WT maxxis tires I've been able to drop to 20f and 22r and all is good. Sidewalls don't flex too much and the traction is insaine. It way surpasses my confidence and I'm having to re-learn how hard i can push the bike. Might bump it up a psi or 2 in the summer to see if i can loose some rolling resistance
@topherdagopher: tire inserts have come a long way. I run the cush core system in my 2.4 se4 on the rear at 21psi and the front maxxis dhf evo 29x2.5 at 19 psi. This is being run on a 2017 slash 29er with a pike 160mm stuffed full of five bottomless tokens at 7 clicks lsc and 57 psi in the solo air chamber. 11 clicks rebound damping. I weigh 165-170 in gear fully hydrated. ...... I have yet to even ding a rim. Cush core has saved my ass multiple times that I know of, and probably more that I don't even know about.
@topherdagopher: i cant run less than 30 in the front without dinging it off rocks around here. 34ish for thr rear to not burp or ding. On maxxis hr2. Horses for course, but 20psi on non dh tires would mean ripping the tire off the rim after beating it to shit in the rocks. 220Lbs fwiw.
Well to be fair, most of us don't ride like Richie. I'm guessing on the average normal human ride it wouldn't be a problem - but Richie doesn't really ride like the rest of us. Plus its still a prototype so I think they deserve a little slack for now.
In a sense, the question is pretty pointless, as with all of the tyre manufacturers, sidewall types, various different 'rim defender' kits etc and different rider weights and styles pressure will be almost entirely down to the individual and setup, especially at this level where most will have done timed testing.
DD or DH tires: 27F/30R
Procore riders: 21/23
Don't get me wrong, I think he's an awesome dude and one of my favourite riders. I hope he wins the title again this year.
No one else is the same weight, same bike, same riding style, same tyres... so how he thinks that information could in any way benefit the competition is a mystery to me.
@2bigwheels: yes I do. I don't know how could I miss that for so many years. Even when it rains it's good to drop some, allows for a longer rides and sometimes takes her to more than one top before you send it to flat
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*squeezes tire*
"About that much"
"Well in the front I run about twenty f-- I mean, uh, fifty six. Yeah, fifty six psi. For sure. That's the real number."
to be more realistic i could run 24-25psi for some down hills, but 30 is a better all-around for me on mixed terrain
im sure a 200lbs guy would hit the rim on the first jump on my bike.
I have a few super rocky trails i frequent. I'm the same weight as you and use to use 30f/32r as a minimum on 25mm internal rims to prevent damage.
On 30.5mm internals and WT maxxis tires I've been able to drop to 20f and 22r and all is good. Sidewalls don't flex too much and the traction is insaine. It way surpasses my confidence and I'm having to re-learn how hard i can push the bike. Might bump it up a psi or 2 in the summer to see if i can loose some rolling resistance
Looked like a tube that Richie has had to cover in electrical tape to keep from popping out to me.