With Rampage on the horizon, it's that time of year when freeride bikes get to shine. Commencal have updated the Furious for the occasion, refining the bike's geometry and frame stiffness to ensure it remains an attractive option for all the bike park riders and big mountain senders out there. Don't worry, it still has 200mm of travel and 27.5” wheels, the frame is still aluminum, and the prices are still reasonable.
There are three models in the lineup, with prices ranging from $2,999 USD to $4,799 USD.
Commencal Furious Details • Wheelsize: 27.5"
• 6069 aluminum frame
• Travel: 200mm
• 435mm chainstays
• 64-degree head angle
• Price: $2,999 - $4,799 USD
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commencal.com What's Different About the Frame?The least visible change to the Furious' frame has to do with the aluminum itself – the bike is now constructed from 6069 aluminum, which Commencal says has a longer life expectancy than the 6061 alloy that was used before. A brace has been added between the seatstays in order to bump up the rear end stiffness, since too much rear end flex isn't a desirable attribute on a bike that's almost guaranteed to experience its fair share of sideways landings.
Commencal have also added the ability to change the mounting point of the rocker link. There are two positions, sensitive and responsive, that can be used to adapt the bike to an air or coil shock, or to suit a rider's preference. No, the sensitive setting won't help you get in touch with all those feelings you've been ignoring; instead, it's designed to provide more grip and traction for DH-style riding. The responsive setting is designed for the bike park, with more support for popping off the lip of jumps and stomping landings.
The internal cable routing found on the previous version remains, but the entry ports now serve double duty, thanks to the addition of silicon memory foam fork bumpers that keep the fork from smacking into the frame. Keeping the bike quiet was high on Commencal's priority list, and they've included the ribbed chainstay protector that was first used on their downhill bikes. Downtube protection is also in place to prevent frame damage from flying debris or aggressive shuttling.
GeometryThe Furious' reach numbers have increased dramatically – a size large now has reach measurement of 490mm, compared to 455mm on the previous version. The numbers run from 440mm on a size small up to 510mm on the XL, which should accommodate a wide range of rider heights.
In addition to increasing the front center lengths, Commencal lopped 5mm off the chainstays, which now measure 435mm.
Build Kits•
Furious Race: RockShox Boxxer Ultimate fork, Super Deluxe Ultimate shock, Code RSC brakes, X01 / GX drivetrain, Schwalbe Magic Mary tires. $4,799 USD.
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Furious Essential: Fox 40 Performance Elite fork, Float X2 Performance shock, SRAM Code R brakes, GX drivetrain, Maxxis Assegai tires. $3,899 USD.
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Furious Ride: RockShox Boxxer Select fork, Super Deluxe Select shock, SRAM Guide RE brakes, GX drivetrain, Maxxis Highroller II tires. $2,999 USD.
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Furious frame only: Shock sold separately. $1,299 USD.
rich is so loooong. Large - 490, Medium - 465...it's a longer than my Tues L size (450)
a big part of reach being a huge factor in mountain bike fit is the fact that a lot of trail riding is done standing on the pedals, not seated. reach defines how "attack position" feels on a bike
ETT still does affect how seated pedaling position feels.
For example, a bike with a very long ETT but very slack STA might feel short once in attack position, or once you slam the saddle forwards on the rails to try to get a better pedaling position.
But ETT still is a good indicator of how a bike's saddle to bar fit will be if you look at other numbers in conjunction.
So really, you're both right in part.
I do wish that more companies kept the seat tube shorter on the larger frames. It's very annoying that many companies add a couple inches or more of length to the seat tube. This is based on the assumption that taller people might ride their seat higher when pedaling, stressing the tube more.
SO, thank you Commencal for keeping it the same across all sizes! I honestly have been out of the loop for a few years now but maybe more companies are conscious of this? Let me know if you know something.
But most will not and I wish some disclaimer could be mentioned about seat height as opposed to just this 2 or 3 inches nobody wants on the downhill.
The front end becomes longer, stems are short, the steeper seat tube moves the rider's position forward, placing the weight distribution between the wheels more central.
if 15mm reach is a deal breaker then how did anyone survive on old school bikes?
Having just sized up the same frame this year from a L to an XL, I can assure you 10-15mm of reach, stack, bar width, etc...all make a difference in body position and bike handling.
The point is mute anyway, since we are talking different generations of bikes here, and a lot more has changed, than only the reach.
I‘d bet halt the World Cup riders wouldn‘t be able to tell a 10mm difference in reach in a blind test, and I don‘t think more than a very few hobby riders will be able to do so.
Having a little moto background I‘m always somewhat amused by this kind of discussion, where people complain about „their“ frame size being changed by a few millimeters, when on a motorbike it is perfectly normal for riders of all heights to ride a bike with exactly the same measurements (a few tweaks to handlebars and footrests aside).
Haha tell that Minnar when he wants half a click of adjustment from his fox guy...
1cm in reach is a lot. 465mm Reach for a Medium bike is far from a playful bike.
Just because all dirtbikes are the same size does not mean its good. Its a loss of efficiency and there can only be one reason for it: cost!
Reach doesn't mean much without a stack measurement along with it.
Slow Clap! ????In the words of Pythagoras, "What about the hypotenuse, my dude?"
I'm all about that diagonal life.
And good to see another industry kissass, riding in bike park for season I know of so many people who have had them crack in exact same location after a few months of riding and it not good enough for how much you pay for bikes. Why is there this culture in the bike industry of blaming the rider who is paying upwards to 5 grand for a bike, No the companies need to fix there problems and make better quality products.
It always cracks in the same spot, on the weld where the top tube meets the head tube.
Also, someone basically disagreeing with you doesn't make them an ''industry kiss-ass''.
It’s not just 2 people mate, I have literally known of 5 myself. Also why would you go from a couple month old frame to a second hand 2-3 year old frame unless it has cracked?
I mean the frame design could very easily accommodated a dropper post and you don't even need to go crazy on seat angle just hit a perfect middle zone where it's not trail bike steep but not DH slack.
And with shorter travel maybe could make it have a flip chip that allows you to run either wheel size.
If you ain't gonna make fancy platic bikes why not take the money saved on tooling for carbon layup molds and charge a bit more for a very modular bike platform?
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which is not the case for you and i, on our old fashioned sized bikes. my ass goes out to the end of the wheel sometimes! it ends up being harder work staying 'over' the bike in a lot of situations. i realise the benefit is that its 'playful' and whips through tight berms etc. so i guess you have to just decide where you want your compromise.
The trend to wider bars and longer bikes is for stability, not handling.
Bird bikes in the UK does.
If it were me, i'd have made it exactly as-is except the size L would be 470mm reach with a +/- 5 or 10mm reach adjust....
At 490, sounds like a red bull rampage bike.... not everyone at the park will want that much length.
Free ride? Yes please.
Aluminum yes please.
1300$ for the frame. Are you serious! Holy f.ck that's less than the cost of a carbon fiber wheel set!
6069 heat treated Al is much stronger than 6061
Flip chip for plush or more solid for jump trails.
Much to like about this frame.
Imagine if Fox made a single crown 38 mill beast of a fork . With a 20 mil thru axle.
Then the 1.5 head tube really pays off.
Travel essentially stays the same with a drop in BB hight.
Personally I prefer low BB as I rely on pedal position greatly when riding.
(Is that a special version? it looks out of scale here!)
$4000 canadian pesos, so just under 3k usd.
$5200 Canadian for an elite equipped bike.. yt tues exact same spec.. $4200 canadian... rippff ville