Commencal Introduces The Clash

Jul 10, 2018
by COMMENCAL BIKES & SKIS  

PRESS RELEASE: Commencal Bicycles

When necessary, it knows how to be the good guy. Beautiful, charismatic, endearing, approachable, sociable, daring, dynamic, faithful, committed, sensitive and robust. But deep down, this one is wild at heart. Aggressive, arrogant, impulsive, manipulative, resentful and stubborn.

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The CLASH is the bike for those who want everything!

We’re not going to deny that it has a little air of the FURIOUS about it and we believe that is definitely not a bad thing!

Like its big brother, it has 27.5 wheels and its niche is VERSATILITY! Why simply ride enduro? You can get so much more out of the CLASH, from a pedal with the kids through to full-on freeride...

Faithful to its rider, it adapts to the situation, whatever the terrain. A simple and effective bike, capable of anything!


A modern bike that has all the latest standards:
- Metric shock 230*65
- Boost
- 27.5’’ wheels
- 2.6 maximum tyre size

The CLASH utilises a concentric rear triangle pivot at the wheel axis. Connecting the seat stay and chain stay, the pivot uses big high-quality bearings (stiff, smooth and water resistant) from Enduro Bearings.

All this for what?
This positioning separates the brake forces and suspension function, which allows better control, shortens braking distances and reduces rider fatigue.

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The position of the main pivot point has changed from previous models and is now lower and further back in comparison. It’s designed specifically for more responsive pedalling and more aggressive braking. Acceleration and deceleration phases are more efficient and kickback during suspension travel is minimised for more comfort and shock absorption.

The kinematics have been reworked to accept air and coil shocks, both FOX and RockShox models. The frame incorporates 165mm of travel and is designed to accommodate a 170 -180mm fork.
Afterall, more is less and less is more...

As with all of our frames, we’ve paid special attention to the deformation points. In other words, we’ve strengthened these areas. We’d class the CLASH as a forgiving but precise bike.

The CLASH is the successor of the META SX.

How much more does one need?

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THE RANGE

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CLASH Signature
Fork: FOX 36 FACTORY, 180mm, 15mm axle, high / low speed Compression, high / low speed Rebound
Shock: FOX FLOAT DHX2 FACTORY, 2 positions, compression, rebound
Brakes: SHIMANO XT, 200mm/200mm
Transmission: SRAM DESCENDANT EAGLE 7K X-Sync, 32t, boost 170mm on S/M, 175mm on L/XL
SRAM GX EAGLE 1230, 10-50, 12sp
Price: 4.299€ / 4,399USD / 5,499CAD


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CLASH Race
Fork: ROCKSHOX LYRIK RC2, 180mm, 15mm axle, compression, rebound, boost
Shock: ROCKSHOX SUPER DELUXE RCT Coil, 230x65mm, 2 positions, compression, rebound
Brakes: SRAM Guide RE, 200mm/200mm
Transmission: SRAM DESCENDANT EAGLE 7K X-Sync, 32t, boost 170mm on S/M, 175mm on L/XL
SRAM PG-1230, 10-50, 12sp
Price: 3.499€ / 3,599USD / 4,699CAD / 4.999AU$


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CLASH Essential
Fork: ROCKSHOX LYRIK RC, 180mm, 15mm axle, boost
Shock: ROCKSHOX DELUXE RT, 230x65mm, 2 positions
Brakes: SRAM GUIDE T, 200mm/200mm
Transmission: SRAM DESCENDANT EAGLE 6K X-Sync, 32t, boost 170mm on S/M, 175mm on L/XL
SRAM NX EAGLE 1230, 10-50, 12sp
Price: 2.799€ / 2,899USD / 3,699CAD / 3.999AU$


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CLASH Origin
Fork: ROCKSHOX YARI RC, 180mm, 15mm axle, boost
Shock: ROCKSHOX DELUXE RT, 230x65mm, 2 positions
Brakes: SRAM GUIDE T, 200mm/200mm
Transmission: SRAM DESCENDANT 6K, 32t, 170mm on S/M, 175mm on L/XL
SRAM PG-1130, 10-42, 11sp
Price: 2.199€ / 2,299USD / 2,999CAD / 3.199AU$

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242 Comments
  • 140 2
 I bet this thing can rock the casbah
  • 20 0
 you could say this bike puts the clampdown on steep trails
  • 20 1
 As steezy as a Brand New Cadillac!
  • 28 0
 The Shareef dont like it
  • 10 0
 Ready to combat rock
  • 5 0
 Has been shakin' to the top!!!
  • 33 1
 should I buy or should I no?
  • 8 2
 It's good to see London calling with the green paint job
  • 3 3
 Looks like everything including my current trail rig. Can I get a frech Baggett and some hair pie for dessert at least.
  • 10 0
 Train in vain as a I might, this still won't make me better at riding.
  • 5 1
 I'd like to have complete control of this one
  • 26 0
 I got lost in the supermarket thinking about this bike
  • 3 0
 Nice looking design from a safe european home.
  • 9 0
 You could say it's a spanish bomb...
  • 2 1
 @orangefiveisthebest: you are the winner here. Seriously, when it comes down to a clash of puns, orange five is the best.
  • 6 16
flag whistlingcoyote (Jul 11, 2018 at 5:40) (Below Threshold)
 All the young punks hooning around on their enduro bicycles, with their dropper posts, wide rims, and 1xdrivetrains....they don’t know what real mountain biking is
  • 11 0
 I'd love to have one, due to the fact that when I rode my bike last time "I fought the floor and the floor won"
  • 10 0
 You can plus us, You can boost us, But you'll have to answer to, Oh, the puns of Pinkbike
  • 3 0
 I hear it's beaming down the mountaintops using an XO transmission.
  • 2 0
 @sewer-rat: Ha Ha, one of the best gags....
  • 1 0
 It's berm-slashing time.
  • 1 0
 @aka-bigsteve: Gold
  • 4 0
 Nearly a Magnificent Seven inches of travel.
  • 10 0
 This is a real Clash of the Titans.................. Why is it okay for a 180mm Fork to have a 15mm axle............make long travel forks great again bring back the 20mm axle.
  • 1 0
 @whistlingcoyote: im sorry 4x times rampage winner
  • 1 0
 @whistlingcoyote:
  • 3 0
 I'm gunner say it. That thing looks to be built like a Brixton shit house.
  • 1 1
 No mention of the kids 20” and 24” versions...but they popped up on commencal’s website for a few hours this morning! I love that rad kids bikes keep coming out.
  • 1 0
 It's going to be a right riot.
  • 112 61
 I guess I’m getting old...I thought the music choice for this video was terrible. Nothing against this style of music...but using a song that drops f-bombs and racial slurs in an ad campaign was simply a miss for me.
  • 24 20
 Design in Malice by Jedi Mind Tricks and it's at least 6 or 8 yo. Though, I do agree with you, I bet most of the Commencals employees are french and do not understand English well enough, or at least the person in charge of the video editing doesn't Frown .

How not to edit your video 101 by Commencal Big Grin .
  • 110 7
 Darn millenials and their hippity hop!!!
  • 13 4
 @me2menow: it's hippity hoppity
  • 10 9
 Agree, I couldn't concentrate on the bike with Mike Tyson hollering about droppin' three in someones neck...
  • 24 8
 I wanted to disagree with you, but after watching the video, I can't.

You can get away with profane/vulgar music if it fits the overall vibe attached to the cinemetography and editing. See any recent S&M Bikes edit produced by Charlie Crumlish for example. In this case the song delivery is a complete mismatch to the video aesthetic and slo-mo editing. It just further highlights the undesirable aspects of the song and it was a poor choice for a video used in a marketing capacity.
  • 8 9
 Agreed. I can be crude myself, but that's way too far.
  • 19 2
 What was the name of the bike again? Oh, right, the Clash!
  • 5 5
 Odd juxtaposition of gangster rap played over bike-riding.

Did the marketers at Commencal actually check the lyrics on this song, and say, "Perfect!"?

Judge for yourself: www.google.ca/amp/s/genius.com/amp/Jedi-mind-tricks-design-in-malice-lyrics
  • 18 11
 Stopped watching video because of song. Maybe it’s just me but the clash race needs some slayer.
  • 6 3
 My favorite line was "Whole clique of registered sex offenders"
  • 5 0
 The f*ck you talking bout? www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yGVY-xVaSQ
  • 11 5
 Vid was dope
  • 9 4
 Watched on mute.
  • 36 4
 Jmt is old school. Classic rap right here. The epitome of underground bad ass non fucks given rap.
  • 1 0
 No guessin, you are.
  • 4 17
flag reydin (Jul 10, 2018 at 22:12) (Below Threshold)
 @Euskafreez: You do know that the Commencal factory is in Spain don't you?
  • 17 6
 @Euskafreez: can't use a song because some people dislike it. got it. *removes all music from every video ever*
  • 8 2
 Lighten up
  • 17 0
 @reydin: You do know that Commencal are based in Andorra don't you?
  • 3 1
 @reydin: Actually it's right in between
  • 51 10
 You bunch of snowflakes. The music flows really good with the video. Try not listening to the lyrics and focus on the riding. So many people get offended for nothing these days.
  • 46 0
 HERE IS WHAT THEY SHOULD HAVE DONE!

youtu.be/_Qisph1vEG4
  • 4 1
 @me2menow: I'm more hip op than hip hop.
  • 1 0
 @Goodmano: GOLD
  • 2 0
 @colincolin: Such a positive tune!
  • 1 0
 @Goodmano: F@ck/ng CLASS, MATE!
  • 6 0
 @Goodmano: that uneasy feeling when you’re about to get Rick rolled and you still click the link
  • 7 11
flag mrfrench2013 (Jul 11, 2018 at 3:51) (Below Threshold)
 i agree, on top of that rap doesn't really fit a mountain biking video to me at all...
  • 2 0
 @won-sean-animal-chin: lol,
its like the Vanilla Coke advert ... Reward Curiosity (maybe not reward...)
  • 11 1
 I get what you're saying. It doesn't seem appropriate. Other the other hand, it's nice to see a company push back on the relentless assault of PC bullshit. It's a fresh approach, from a killer company that's taking over dh at the mo. Thanks @COMMENCALbicycles
  • 1 0
 @slayerdegnar: Thats not the proper nomenclature. Your out of your element slayer.
  • 16 1
 @Euskafreez: i am pretty sure they understand very well, i don't think someone who doesn't understand english would go and listen JMT, since they are quite an underground hip hop band. And i my self applaud this choice of music, i know it's not for some old blokes, but i like that there are still company's that value some real stuff over commercial shit we are fed everyday.
  • 3 1
 @makripper: there you go, there is someone who dig's this as well, i am glad buddy!
  • 4 0
 @amirazemi: not too sure if 22m views on youtube on this song is underground my dude.
  • 7 0
 @Goodmano: Excellent

Here is another option: bennyhillifier.com/?id=nbr0PxgTAOE
  • 6 1
 I think you missed the theme...
The clash. Urban music clashing with outdoor/not urban recreation.
  • 5 9
flag unleash (Jul 11, 2018 at 6:53) (Below Threshold)
 Music was indeed horrendous, the amount of mtb videos totally ruined by terrible rap music astounds me.
  • 1 0
 @vapidoscar: aw man! I wish I had known about that!
  • 4 2
 @colincolin: you don't think there might be 22 million people who appreciate underground hip hop? btw what do you call an underground hip hop, pls enlighten me?
  • 1 0
 Couldn't agree more...
  • 32 4
 Jesus christ Americans, is there anything you're not offended by? Totally fine with horrific graphic violence but as soon as an F-bomb gets dropped or you see a nipple its like the world is going to end.
  • 3 1
 @Goodmano: THIS is hippity hop!
  • 2 0
 @mrfrench2013: "Clash" - see what they did there?
  • 1 0
 @arrowheadrush: Too true! haha
  • 2 1
 @MTBCO719 Yea you’re getting old. Care less about the lyrics and more about the riding and videography.
  • 7 2
 why don't you all just go down to the local Elks Lodge and talk about your AARP and how good the 80's were
  • 6 6
 @arrowheadrush: I didn't say that the music offended me. I agree...things have gone a bit too far in terms of having to be PC all the time. I use vulgar language and make inappropriate comments just like everyone else...but I wouldn't use that language if I was posting a video representing my company or brand. My kids ride (8 and 10) but I would have to mute the sound to show them this edit because they dont need hear someone talking about b!@#&$...sex offenders...using racial slurs...f-bombs...etc. The again...I am probably not the target audience for this bike.
  • 3 0
 It's an American band, dude.@arrowheadrush:
  • 9 0
 shit piss fuck cunt cock sucker mother fucker tits fart turd twat
  • 7 0
 @arrowheadrush: i f*cked your moooommmmmmm
  • 5 0
 Just quit it man, you really can take the bad words and so can everybody else. It's not a big deal! And if you will, give it another go and concentrate on the rhythm rather than trying to understand the content. Suddenly you might just spot the absolute killer flow of JMT; much like the flow in the rad riding in this rad vid. Great stuff Commencal!
  • 5 0
 Jesus titty f*cking Christ who gives a f*ck about the video, the music in the video, whatever the f*ck ever. It’s an advert.
Why don’t we talk about the bike and how awesome it looks? Or even how shit it looks if you’re insane/ blind/ both.
  • 1 0
 @arrowheadrush: when the American and/ or Canadian cusser says twat do they pronounce it ‘twot’? And what circumstances call for the the profanity? It might be very insular of me but it seems such a British term I’m genuinely interested as I haven’t heard it used often by those over the pond.
  • 2 0
 @iqbal-achieve: we're all just jealous over the fact you guys get to say 'c*nt' all the time, it's a fantastic cuss word. You say that here and you'll get slapped
  • 1 0
 @Grmasterd: it’s all about context Wink but you’ll get slapped here too if you’re not careful
  • 3 0
 I`m french and not 100% comfortable with english but probably, or not, the Commençal`s dudes did not read the lyrics of that song before, or if they did and got them, it is in my opinion a bit awkward regarding to the subject of the video. Frenchies are everything except perfect you know, but in the same time they`re gonna win both the men DHWC and the football world championship.

PS: if any american, canadian, british mtb brand wants a french song that absolutely doesn`t match to their videos: call me, I could help you ;-)
For instance: the man who invented french hip-hop in the 60`s: www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJksApHi9bU
  • 1 0
 @arrowheadrush: Why all the f*cking word censorship?
  • 1 0
 @Grmasterd: cuz the aarp is a bunch of progressives. F that
  • 2 0
 @arrowheadrush: lol, most of us live with or very close to rap/hip hop communities. I shoot hoops with many friends whom are artists.
So actually, most Americans are actually more diverse than not.
Most of this type of music is American.
  • 3 0
 @amirazemi: what do you call underground Hip Hop? ... A dead rapper!
  • 3 0
 @Goodmano: lol good one
  • 1 0
 @iqbal-achieve: i would say that yes it is pronounced closer to "twot" over here, although its pretty uncommonly used. that line of profanity i posted is from a Blink 182 song called Family Reunion, its a classic
  • 1 0
 @arrowheadrush: ah can’t believe I missed that! Twat is probably my favourite swear of all. Stub your toe? TWAT! All better.
  • 3 2
 @Euskafreez: agreed!! Disastrous choice of music
  • 1 1
 I literally bought a Commencal Furious because the launch vid has songs from both 2 Chainz and MOP... Okay maybe that wasn't the main reason, but I do love the the music choices in the Commencal vids. To each their own, I guess.
  • 2 2
 Oh my virgin ears D': ! A hypothetical child who's never heard a swear word could have overheard!!!

Get a f*ckin' grip. There's obscene shit happening all over the world every day, and "f*ck" isn't it.

If your knickers are that knotted maybe a Specialized Sworks is more your speed.
  • 36 0
 Loved the old Meta SX. this one should be fantastic as well. especially at that price and with the split pivot rear. they might have a winner here. i'm just happy companies are making freeride style bikes again.
  • 3 0
 Oh my gosh, that green one. Want, want, want!
  • 2 0
 @jaame: commencial is killing the bike color game right now
  • 10 5
 they say Versatility is key but cant even put two threaded holes for a water bottle.....TWO THREADED HOLES, SOMEWHERE !
  • 2 0
 @chize: you're right about that. Just awesome looking bikes these past couple of years. That world Cup khaki colour along with the race kit is fantastic too!
  • 2 0
 @chize: they were killing since green supreme V2
  • 3 0
 @viatch: It can be easily done by anyone with an eye for detail, the proper size drill bits, 1/4-20 riv nuts and a setting tool. The problem is that most companies want to void your warranty for any reason possible, even if the modifications are not related.
  • 29 1
 $5,500CAD with Fox Factory, XT brakes and GX Eagle. That will run you about $8-9k from Santa Cruz in Canada.
  • 9 0
 Imagine the price for a Yeti.
  • 6 1
 @NotNamed: likely around 16k
  • 1 0
 And you get the green one. Brilliant.
  • 2 3
 @NotNamed: I'm not sure you realize but the top end SC builds are more expensive than Yetis. It's just that Yeti doesn't spec their bikes with low end parts so the "low-spec'd" Yeti models are more expensive than the low-spec'd SC's. But, you know, don't let facts get in the way of your argument!

Pretty easy to compare (just using Hightower LT / SB5.5): www.santacruzbicycles.com/en-US/hightower-lt v www.yeticycles.com/bikes/sb55

$8,199 for the top end SB5.5 (XX1) and $9,299 for the Hightower LT (XX1) - assuming the difference in cost is due to the SC brand carbon rims. Otherwise it's similarish, to my eyes.
  • 19 1
 Commencal has a track record of using dope gangsta rap in videos, one of their best their best works yet. Sweet edit and sweet bike. My next ride will most likely be from them.
  • 23 5
 Looks like a Capra?
  • 3 2
 First thought.
  • 1 0
 www.pinkbike.com/photo/13879736 yeah
  • 6 1
 Unpopular opinion: Capras look like ass. YT's paint jobs and lines in general are whack attack. The Commie looks way better.

NEG ME HARDER!
  • 11 3
 I dig the idea of a 180mm fork and a bit less suspension in the rear. I'm sure the bike is fantastic and likely rides entirely different from the Supreme SX but from the standpoint of a consumer it seems like the two bikes might clash over customers a bit.
  • 4 1
 i see what you did there. good pun.
  • 2 1
 Nice pun. But curious what the difference in riding characteristics is between the SX and the Clash.
  • 1 0
 I would say Supreme SX is simply too complex looking bike, especially not being a DH bike and maybe thats why it does not have that much attention from actual customers. There is a lot of Furious frames around in my place (Chatel bikepark) but I never saw any Supreme SX.
  • 2 1
 @ryanandrewrogers, I'm furious on that statement because I like what Commencal are doing currently. I like that you can smell freeride in each bike.
  • 6 0
 @MTB-Colada: I would suggest the difference is going to be pedalling efficiency, the supreme sx will be very neutral pedaling because of the idler. So it'll likely bounce about like anything with out of saddle efforts, while the split pivot will be less neutral and stiffen up a bit pedaling as there's more chain growth. One is a big enduro bike (clash) and one is a small dh bike.

Very blurry lines but I think one lives on a lift and one doesn't tbh!
  • 1 0
 @ryanandrewrogers why more travel in the front?
  • 2 0
 I think it's the 180mm version of Supreme DH vs Furious. Personally I like the Furious better, but not much need for a full-on DH bike here in CO, so this is perfect.
  • 1 0
 @dthomp325: If you don't need a DH bike in CO, where do you need one (outside BC)?
  • 1 0
 Commencals website shows that a lot of Supreme SX sizes are no longer in stock. Maybe they're discontinuing it and replacing with this?
  • 1 0
 @dangahoesing: PNW? Bootleg? CA? IDK, seems like you have to travel quite a bit to make a DH bike worth it, since many Rocky Mountain/4 Corner states have just a few trails where they are worth it. I'd say there are probably less than a dozen trails in CO where a DH bike will give you a faster time than an enduro bike. Want to buy my DH bike?
  • 12 3
 Really fucking bold move to feature a controversial ass artist like Jedi Mind Tricks in a mass media ad campaign, but we'll see if it pays off, Cotton.
  • 13 2
 Totally reminds me of my Voltage FR circa 2013.
  • 4 1
 Indeed, a Commencal Voltage!
  • 14 8
 One thing more I can tell you people will want right off the bat is a bottle mount inside the front triangle. Going from past PB comment sections anyways LoL

Less SRAM/RockShox and more Shimano/Fox would be better.
  • 6 3
 Shimano Fox builds are what dreams are made of, I own a 2018 Furious Race, Been bit by bit ditching the 4 letter word starting with S^%& for Shimano.
  • 9 1
 Freeride lives! Now make slopestyle trail bikes for play style trail riding and we will be back on track.
  • 2 0
 www.commencalusa.com/vip-absolut-sx-26-brushed-2018-c2x23712461
  • 2 0
 @Vandermouten: I wish they would sell it as a complete bike.
  • 6 0
 Oh shit commencal just went split pivot!!!!

Does it ride like a trek slash or a devinci?
  • 3 0
 Love that they haven’t named it or appeared to license from either party. Wonder who will sue them first. I mean, doesn’t the lawsuit between Trek and DW need to get settled first? Any lawyers in the house?
  • 1 0
 @powderturns: Was there a lawsuit between the two? I thought Dave actually dropped by Trek with his concept and they realized they were both already working on the same thing. They didn't want to cooperate and each went their own way. I'd be surprised if there were a lawsuit now.

Silly egos, I'd say. Schwalbe and Syntace also both realized they were working on the same thing (Procore) and then actually cooperated.
  • 2 0
 @vinay: yes, there was a lawsuit. I hadn't checked this in a few years, but seems like he lost and had to pay legal fees to Trek...
www.bicycleretailer.com/north-america/2016/01/04/court-pares-split-pivots-legal-costs-failed-suit-against-trek#.W0YNhS3Mwq8
  • 1 0
 @powderturns: That really sucks. I'm pretty sure he actually dropped by Trek with the concept and at that point they realized they were both working on something similar but Trek wasn't interested in his services. To sue each other afterwards sucks. Really need to dig through my collection of old Dirt magazines to figure out what happened exactly. Paper magazines, this was well before the advent of Pinkbike. At least for me.
  • 1 0
 @powderturns: Maybe Split pivot/ABP is only patented in the US. Lapeirre used FSr/Horst link without paying for the patent as they only sold them in Europe.
  • 1 0
 @Lee-Gee: possible. Either way I think we’ll find out soon enough. If Trek thinks it’s infringement they’ll sue. I doubt DW will having suffered a loss last time.
  • 1 0
 No mention in the release about it being a Euro only bike. Hopefully some more info is released on why / how they are using the concentric design.
  • 1 0
 @shirk-007: I believe the patent on concentric pivots to past its time in the US, horst/fsr and vpp are outside of the patent range so as long as its not copyright (name) infringement you should be good.

Dave weagle had sued Giant for DW link infringment and pushed khs out of the range. Think giant held him up in court until he gave up. I believe DW and delta joint are still well within patent time range.
  • 1 0
 @jewpowered: DW files in 2006, so if it was a 20 year patent then it should be good to 2026. But I didn't do much here beyond go and look for the filing date.
  • 6 0
 Clash of the Clashes: NS Clash vs Commencal Clash in the European consumer direct dash for your disposable cash
  • 6 0
 Do you need 180/170 for a trail you could ride on a ?hard tail?

I want to see it handle some gnar.
  • 7 1
 One of the best videos from Trestle in quite a while. . .
  • 4 0
 Dope. Filmed on 36 Chamber trail.
  • 1 0
 @Triza82: And some sections of Trestle DH.
  • 2 0
 Would be great if big names like Spesh could take a leaf out of the Commencal book of clever, cheap features that should be on all their bikes. Like that nice rubbery guard on the down tube. My naked Enduro Comp is already showing signs of wear there... Commencal are on the up - great advertising for their brand in the EWS and DH. Stolen the march on Santa Cruz with their 29er dh bike. Love it.
  • 2 0
 Not to hate or anything but it seems like Commencal has like 3 bikes that are in this free ride/Enduro realm. From a business standpoint, this doesn’t seem like a gap they need to fill in their lineup. I’m confused why they made this thing over investing in a trailbike or hardtail.
  • 1 0
 i would say that the Meta TR is a trail bike, that's what the TR stands for anyways. They also have the Meta HT TR, and Meta HT AM which are both hard tails.
  • 1 0
 They JUST released their Meta TR 29 (trail 29er), as well as their Meta AM 29 (enduro 29). Their Meta AM hardtail also got a redesign this year. They're just churnin' bikes out.

Their lineup is pretty fleshed out right now, and they always seem to push the gnarly side of riding. They're basically only missing an XC bike, and I doubt they'll go there.
  • 1 1
 Got to ride the TR & Meta V.4 ona very typical trail trail my region over the weekend & am at a loss.

Neither was ideal. 150/130mm TR was too little & the 170/160mm was a little too much. They both climbed welll enough but one was done with its travel when I least expected & the other was too similar to my DH bike to be playful.

They need something similar to a Devinci Troy or Kona Process 153 for the masses. Perfect middle ground for me.
  • 2 0
 I wonder how the ride characteristics of this bike compares to the Meta AM v4.2. I love my my 2018 Meta v4.2, but I could do without the pedal kickback. Rear suspension could be a bit smoother too under hard braking.
  • 3 0
 If Joe Strummer was a bike... It's versatile, it's punk, it's called "The clash", and it will probably be taken from us too soon.
  • 2 0
 Frivolous lawsuits await!
  • 4 0
 With the Slash and the Smash out there, seems The Clash ought to have bigger hoops! Kidding. It looks rad.
  • 5 0
 Whoa, the pricepoint on the Race model. Killer.
  • 1 0
 seems like another decent & less expensive choice for me while narrowing down my next build.
this is fun, commencal goes back a ways now. dont know much about their support, but shit
im too light to brake a frame, (famous last words)
  • 3 0
 So sick! This really makes me question if it's this or a canyon torque I'll end up getting!
  • 4 0
 Damn, Kudos to Commencal! Maybe the Meta will go split pivot soon?? Big Grin
  • 3 0
 I hope the new Furious too
  • 1 0
 It’s an enduro bike. A sweet one at that . Bike has 10mm more travel than Sam Hill had and in the fork it makes little difference on the up. Supreme sx is more of a free ride bike but that might be the fiture of enduro
  • 4 0
 I bet the weight is over 35lbs
  • 1 0
 Came here to say the same thing! haha
  • 3 0
 In other words, Meta SXs are about to go on mother-frogging sale.

I'll take the blue one in Med please. \m/
  • 1 0
 Dayum this looks like a total party animal. My GG Smash is to be delivered today. Perhaps the Clash is a worthy stablemate.
  • 3 0
 Perfect bike for trestle!
  • 3 0
 if this pedals like my supreme 6, take my money
  • 4 1
 This is one nice aggressive xc bike
  • 2 0
 Can someone explain me the main differences btwn the clash and the supreme sx, geometrically they seem very similar
  • 2 0
 It's the enduro equivalent of the Supreme DH and the Furious
  • 6 2
 @avcb: Supreme dh - for dh
Furious - for freeride
Supreme SX - for super-enduro/freeride
Meta AM - enduro/race-enduro (if there's such a thing...)
Clash - kinda crowdy already here, it's between the supreme sx and the meta. Can't really tell who's gonna buy it. Too many different bikes for too close types of riding in Commencal's catalog (of course, in my opinion).
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: I agree there's a lot of overlap, but it's cool to have so many different options!
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: One could say, it CLASHES with their lineup *snicker snicker*
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 @hitarpotar: ummm it has normal enduro build stuff on it but the sales talk says u can do big jumps and smash the trail going down freeride style and going back pedaling uphill like an enduro..... ummm so we can say it a free-duro bike???? haha
  • 1 0
 @carlomagno: That's kinda the way of the super-enduro... Big Grin
  • 1 0
 Their suspension design is obviously super different. That's going to be the main difference.
  • 1 0
 @hitarpotar: meta 27 has one build kit. so whats gonna happen to meta 27? clash taking its spot?
  • 1 0
 No idea, mate! @Tougelude:
  • 2 0
 would running a dual-crown be a problem? say, 180mm Boxxer or similar. Would the geo get too screwed up?
  • 1 0
 I think the boxxer has a lower a2c length than a Lyrik with the same travel
  • 1 0
 @SleepingAwake: fair point, but if you are looking for rigidity, dual-crown would be preferable
  • 4 0
 @yxbix: my response was supposed to be an argument for a dual crown fork as it probably would not change the geometry a whole lot, even if you have more travel
  • 1 0
 @SleepingAwake: ok, I see. Cheers! I think I will reach out to Commencal for some info
  • 3 0
 Long live the Pinkbike commencal section
  • 3 0
 Yes...what does each model / build weigh...? Relevant info, no?
  • 2 0
 These are sweet lookin' bikes!
  • 2 0
 That black/silver/red is drop dead sexy
  • 4 4
 I apologize ahead of time if I offend anyone by my being offended, but that song offended me. Lol, that blue and yellow paint looks insane!
  • 3 0
 Sounds like a Slash...
  • 2 0
 So what you're trying to tell me is that the Clash is an #sshole? ????
  • 2 0
 Pricing is that impressive
  • 2 0
 How come no piggy backs on the airshocks?
  • 3 2
 It's a vegetarian bike. Will let myself out now...
  • 4 3
 Lol people getting butt hurt because of a song,, bigger problems out there...
  • 3 2
 @1:37 that's how berms on bike park get destroyed and ruined for everybody else
  • 2 0
 Is this a Canyon Torque killer?
  • 1 0
 This looks like a modern version of the Bottle Rocket (which is a good thing).
  • 2 0
 Sweet how they used Trestle for the video!!
  • 1 0
 I thought this vid was fantastic and I also think this bike is a homerun. Good on you Commencal!
  • 1 0
 Commencal is killing it these days! Definitely going on the Christmas list.
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Trek ABP anyone?
  • 1 0
 Nice bike and awesome ad the ad works because everybody talking about it
  • 1 0
 I want the Clash Race...Smile
  • 2 0
 Steez.
  • 2 0
 Handsome
  • 3 2
 Video was good. Music selection was good. 10/10.
  • 1 0
 isn't the meta supposed to fulfill that role?
  • 1 0
 Wonder what the max chain ring size is?
  • 1 0
 34
  • 1 0
 @AnthonyQDJ: Boooooo
or
In that case, stays are way too long
  • 2 0
 NS clash is where its at
  • 1 0
 yaaaaassssssssss bring back all the freeride things!!!!!
  • 1 0
 Do they have a single crown bike with idler pulley like the dh?
  • 1 0
 Winter Park gets so much hate, but just look at that pristine booter.
  • 2 0
 Andorre's Calling.
  • 1 0
 So where does the Supreme SX fit in now.
  • 1 0
 Check their site. To me it looks like it will be discontinued for 2019.
  • 1 0
 That is a lot of bike for the money...
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Transition Covert ! The Clash Race seems perfect !
  • 1 0
 Sick riding, dope music. Commencal knows how to sell a bike
  • 1 0
 @beeboo @turco999
Hey, this uses a dank susp platform.. Turco get it??!
  • 1 0
 This looks promising! I hope commencal applies the axle pivot across their entire range now
  • 1 0
 I remember those times when we called these bike "freeride bikes".
  • 1 0
 Is that Ross Soriano in the video? That kid rips!
  • 1 0
 How come best suspesion designs conflict with a bottle cage?
  • 3 5
 Why was the Meta SX replaced so quickly? It seemed quite fine and was barley around for much time. Plus more travel and a sick suspension system
  • 6 0
 you're thinking of the Supreme SX. The Meta SX runs on the same suspension platform from the Meta V3 and it's been around for years.
  • 2 0
 @ryanandrewrogers: indeed. Still missing those neon matte finishes though.
  • 1 0
 Flat TT's FTW
  • 2 2
 Looks like last years YT Capra
  • 3 0
 well it doesnt does it
  • 1 0
 #tweeneraintdead
  • 1 0
 Return of the huck bike
  • 1 0
 Nicer than the ns clash
  • 1 0
 Split pivot?
  • 1 0
 I'd ride one.
  • 1 0
 Alloy for advance
  • 2 5
 Spesh Status?
  • 10 0
 Anyone remember the Scott Voltage?
  • 2 0
 @larryssman7:
Yes and Freeride is alive.







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