Check Out: Narrow Shoes, Hard-Shell Pads, Casual Riding Kit, & More - April 2018

Apr 30, 2018
by Sarah Moore  



A lot of gear comes across our desks here at Pinkbike. Check Out is a monthly round up of everything our tech editors have gotten their hands on. Sometimes it's products we're doing long-term tests on, other times it's stuff we're stoked on but don't have time to fully review. And, sometimes it's crazy shit someone sent us unsolicited and we're having a laugh.





Dainese Armoform Knee Guards

Dainese Armoform knee pads - Check Out May

Dainese Armoform knee pads - Check Out May
There are soft memory foam pads on the outside of the knee along with elastic velcro strap for fit.
Dainese Armoform knee pads - Check Out May
The hard-shells pattern is based on fractals and should allow good airflow.

Features

• Articulated hard-shell kneepads
• Available in Black only
• S, M, L, XL
• Elastic straps with silicone grippers
• Memory foam with polyethylene hard shell
• $USD / €99
dainese.com


bigquotesI must be getting old as I am taking protection more seriously. I have been looking for some hard shell knee pads that are comfortable enough for all-day riding but with improved safety over soft pads. The articulated design of the Armoform pads should be ideal for pedaling and the design promises plenty of ventilation and adjustment to fit.Paul Aston




Ion Raid AMP Shoes

Ion Raid AMP shoes

Ion Raid AMP shoes
Soles are made of what Ion call "SupTraction Rubber Soul FL"
Ion Raid AMP shoes
The ankle pad.

Features

• Designed for narrower feet
• SupTraction Rubber Soul FL supersticky rubber
• ToeTal protection to absorb impacts, & pre-shaped heel cup for heel hold
• Extra padding to protect the lower ankles
• Two-component insole supports the arch & adds extra damping to the heel
• Available in black, blue nights, or single malt (pictured)
• 400g (size 42)
• Available in sizes 37–47
• $129.95 USD
More Info


bigquotesPeople are familiar with the idea of buying a narrower or wider shoe when it comes to ski boots or hiking boots, but there aren't many width options in flat pedal shoes. If you have slim feet but wear a regular or wide shoe, your pedals can feel vague when your foot moves inside the shoe. The Ion Raid Amp has a slimmer last and the fit won't suit people with wide feet like me, but might be a good option for those with slimmer feet. No word on how the grip is, but they look to have solid protection and a novel design philosophy.Brian Park




Scott Prospect Goggle

Scott Prospect Goggle

Scott Prospect Goggle
Scott have added more foam to their Prospect to increase comfort.
Scott Prospect Goggle
The mirror lens looks gorgeous

Features

• Large fit.
• Lens lock system.
• 3-layer moulded face foam.
• Microfiber goggle bag.
• Noseguard.
• Extra wide no-slip silicone strap.
• Scott TruView single Works lens.
• NoFog™ Anti-Fog lens treatment.
• Bonus clear lens included.
• Available in 10 colours.
• £80 / €99.95 / US $99.95.
More Info.


bigquotesScott's Prospect goggle is certainly a looker. The bright, mirrored lens in this model appears yellow on the outside but turns the world to a dark blue colour once you're looking through it. The goggles are supplied with a clear lens option, too. Scott's lens lock system makes changing the lens fairly easy when you've got to grips with how it operates. The soft, luxurious padding is fit for royalty and certainly make your face feel loved. They feel premium, but at this price they're cheaper than a lot of other brand's offerings.Alex Evans





Mission Workshop Rhake Pack & Capsule Camera Insert

The Rhake bag Mission Workshop

The Rhake bag Mission Workshop
Made in the USA with a lifetime warranty.
The Rhake bag Mission Workshop
The Capsule is an add-on and weighs 1.9 lbs and measures 9.75” x 17.75” x 4.25”.

Features

• Available in Black, Grey, Olive, Black Camo + Cobra Buckle
• External dimensions: 21” x 13” x 5”
• Internal volume: 1,350 cu. in. (22 L)
• Weight (empty): 3.1 lbs.
• Dedicated 10-inch iPad/tablet pocket (accessible from exterior of pack).
• Hidden water bottle pocket that zips away when not in use.
• Dedicated padded pocket fits all 15-inch and most 17-inch laptops (accessible from exterior of pack).
• Roll-top main compartment can grow or shrink as needed to fit extra clothes and gear
• $365 USD for the bag, $130 USD for "The Capsule" Camera Insert
More Info


bigquotesThe Rhake bag is a super tough, fashionable everyday backpack designed for day trips, commuting, and adventure. The Capsule camera insert makes the Rhake useable as a camera bag. This is not a bag that a dedicated photographer would use, since camera access isn’t instant. But, it could be a good choice for people who need a versatile bag that doesn't scream "I have expensive camera gear" and works on the mountainside just as well as in airports, boardrooms, and hip-ass coffee shops. The price is eye-popping, but the construction feels incredibly rugged, so I'd expect it to last for many, many years.Brian Park





Mons Royale Redwood 3/4 Raglan T-Shirt

Mons Royale Redwood 3 4 Raglan T - Surf

Mons Royale Redwood 3 4 Raglan T - Surf
Mons Royale's Air-Con fabric keeps things cool when it's a scorcher.
Mons Royale Redwood 3 4 Raglan T - Surf
Nice detailing.

Features

• Full merino mesh back.
• 3/4 raglan sleeves are pad-friendly.
• New merino Air-Con fabric.
• Drop tail.
• 4 sizes, from S to XL.
• Integrated sunglasses wipe.
• Available in 2 styles.
• €90
More Info.


bigquotesMons Royale makes some fantastic, casual-looking riding clothes that pack some impressive features. Merino wool has become a go-to fabric for a lot of my riding kit—it keeps you cool when it's hot, keeps you hot when it's cool and doesn't smell or lose any of its technical properties when it's finally drenched in sweat. This raglan t-shirt could be used mid-layer in the winter and as a standard riding shirt in the summer.Alex Evans





POC Coron Air Spin Helmet

POC Coron Air Spin - Check Out May

POC Coron Air Spin - Check Out May
The Coron Air has more ventilation and POC's new SPIN (Shearing Pad INside) rotational impact technology.
POC Coron Air Spin - Check Out May
Color-cordinated Ora goggles and Resistance gloves are also available.

Features

• Available in White, Black, or Green/Orange
• XS-S, M-L, XL-XXL
• SPIN rotational impact system
• DH certified
• Break Away visor
• Multi-impact EPP liner
• Emergency removable cheek pads
• $275 USD / €290
pocsports.com


bigquotesI had great success with the previous POC Coron helmet and it has been my go-to full face for over a year. This 'Air' version offers increased ventilation and POC's new SPIN rotational impact system which should make the Coron even better. POC are also offering matching Ora Clarity goggles and Resistance Enduro gloves for color-coordinating addicts.Paul Aston




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142 Comments
  • 110 6
 $100 for a t-shirt? Did I read that correctly??
  • 128 4
 limited edition let's do some simple addition $100 for a t-shirt that's some ignorant b*tch sh*t.
I call that getting swindled and pimped
  • 57 10
 i'm gonna pop some tags, only got $20 in my pocket...
  • 69 18
 remember kids, never quote macklemore
  • 36 0
 It's got an integrated sunglasses wipe, dude. That's probably worth like 70-80 bucks right there.
  • 4 18
flag wanleggedwinston (Apr 30, 2018 at 12:28) (Below Threshold)
 @racerfacer: Limited edition, let's do some simple addition
Fifty dollars for a T-shirt, that's just some ignorant bitch
  • 5 0
 ...and a bonus clear lens? (assuming that's a misprint)
  • 9 0
 One manufacturer exec heard saying mt. Biking people have too many head crashes, so they can charge any prices they want without any basis and they will buy it!
  • 17 16
 @jaycubzz: why? This is f$cking awesome!
  • 8 4
 @jtayabji: "this is f*cking awesome..."
  • 6 1
 I think polyester shirts are perfect. No reason for a hundred doller shirt.
  • 9 0
 What does it cost 75 cents to Iron the logo on and 2 bucks for the blank shirt.
  • 18 0
 "I call that getting tricked by a biz-niss"
  • 32 18
 I mean, $100 for a merino jersey isn’t crazy—depending on the quality.
  • 131 1
 My t-shirts have an integrated sunglasses wipe too. Its conveniently located wherever the cleanest part of my t-shirt happens to be.
  • 9 1
 @brianpark:
Most organic merino wool T-shirt’s are 40-60€... and you get custom tailored and made in EU T-shirt’s for 50-60€

So 100 quid for some T-shirt ist expensive- reminds me of Supreme stuff
  • 4 0
 @brianpark: Agreed, Merino wool is great stuff. The concern is that a bike shirt gets more abuse, and will require washing often so a cheap synthetic fabric seems more sensible. But, if it lasts longer (and smells less) then the outrage over wool shirts is probably misplaced...
  • 4 4
 @NotNamed: would love to check some made-to-measure merino tshirts out. Got a link? All I could find was www.sonofatailor.com and they're out of wool at the moment.
  • 11 10
 @NotNamed: erm, most of the long sleeve merino jerseys I see in stores start at 70€ And they have some lame logos referring to climbing or hiking on them. For lower price you need to go to one of online mega stores and wait for a sale. Merino is the best sht one can have because it retains warmth and at the same time doesn’t make you too hot. Having said that I ride exclusively in Merino that got fkd up by wearing it casually because it is easy to damage it on branches and once you get a hole in it, it deteriorates quickly. I just wouldn’t spend this cash on something that will be fkd up on the first ride.
  • 1 0
 Bonus Clear Lens included.
  • 5 0
 @focofox37: That Shirts Hella Dope!
  • 12 0
 @steviestokes: But I've seen 15 of the same one on this lift so it's hella nope...
  • 8 0
 Its not just a T-shirt though, its 3/4 sleeve bro
  • 11 1
 Mons shirts are worth the $$, the comfort and quality doesn't compare to your typical polyester jersey
  • 1 0
 It is merino, but to me that says maybe $60-$80.
  • 10 0
 Doesn’t even come with a bottle cage
  • 2 0
 They forgot to mention the red sleeves are hand dyed from the leaves of the exotic Hawaiin Anthurium flower hence the large price tag...
  • 4 1
 Dude... it's not cotton. Or some stanky synthetic fabric (which often sell for $60+ anyway). Did any of the outraged folks on here read past the price tag?

This is right in line with most Merino wool gear out there.

The graphic leaves something to be desired though.
  • 4 0
 You did not read that correctly. It reads €90, so more like $108.67.
  • 5 0
 @brianpark: It's not pure merino though.
  • 3 0
 @brianpark: the thing is though, they're shit. i had one, logo started peeling/wearing away off after about 2 washes (returned it and got another) then one crash on a clay dirt jump and it was unwearable. what made it worse was all the ads at the park for them lol
  • 5 0
 I know where you can get casual riding gear at far better prices: Salvation Army.
  • 1 1
 So for those complaining , round it up... as system does.
300 euro is 25% of average in Europe ... no round up salary.
No cheap really.No offense to any.
  • 2 3
 @Quinn-39: they didn’t, some of them whine on price just for fun, because you can make it sound silly, and some are just idiots.
  • 2 1
 merino aint cheap
  • 2 1
 @Quinn-39: I would never pay anything close to that for a merino shirt that will very likely get torn at some point while biking. Costco merino layers, $20 CAD a pop and work very well for this application.
  • 1 0
 It is expensive, for sure. But, I own a couple and I have used them for a whole summer here in NZ and I can say that after been sweating on them a lot, they smell like the first day. If you don’t wreck them they will last for a while. Personally I wouldn’t be able to keep using regular cotton or polyester because of the smell.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I know you're just trolling, but yah I spend my money where I feel it counts. Honestly feel spending 5 times as much on a merino layer that is marginally better than a Costco merino layer (works just as well as my old icebreaker stuff IMO) that is just as likely to tear sounds straight up dumb.
  • 2 2
 @cdmbmw: I couldn’t respext myself if I paid 20 for Merino layer. I know it tears easily that’s why I only ride in stuff that’s already been damaged. On another note Icebreaker and Smartwool are the least durable of all I have tried. I’ll probably never buy anything from them again.
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns:  "I couldn’t respext myself if I paid 20 for Merino layer"
Seriously? Still trolling or just expressing how inflated your ego is?
  • 3 6
 @cdmbmw: yeah, I’m such an egomaniac being concerned how is it possible stuff that is sold by most for 70-100 suddenly costs 20 at at a shit shop like Costco. It must be high hopes and good intentions that lower the price meanwhile other companies run on greed and elitism. Please... I am a bit too aware of how price can be too high as well as too low, no free lunches, sorry. I don’t judge you, just personally wouldn’t be so stoked about it. That’s just egomaniac me
  • 4 0
 @WAKIdesigns: The stuff is sold at such inflated prices because the herd will buy it, plain and simple.
The cheap stuff works great, the proof is in the pudding.
Not respecting oneself for buying more affordable alternatives that are proven to work well, just sounds like letting the ego get in the way of making intelligent financial choices.
  • 1 4
 @cdmbmw: whatever man. I thought it is the herd that goes to Costco, Tesco, Wallmart etc. just look around yourself on the parking lot next time you are there. Exemplary citizens. Keep telling yourself the story of elitist egomaniacs. ftar all, we all try to justify our decisions. You and me included
  • 5 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Its like efffng midnight in Sweden. Give it a rest.
  • 2 0
 @cdmbmw: We have Aldi here in Australia and their merino layers are around AU$30. I catch them marked down to 3 bucks sometimes! Will get holes in them pretty easy but merino is simply the best material to wear, feels great and is warm/cool. Everyone should shop around for no name bargains.
  • 3 0
 @WAKIdesigns: your argument is stupid in this point your asuminging that the 100$ shirt is substantialy better than the 20$ shirt you bring in glasses that are far cheaper than any set of cycling specific glasses which can be had for 20$ or so on the low end the shorts you bring up are workers shorts that are terrible and not meant for cycling but you can buy some zoic shorts online for 20-30$us the shorts you mention are at 20 euros and not meant for cycling
  • 1 0
 @brianpark: Its not. But is the whole jersey merino or just a section of the back?
  • 1 0
 Is anything on the shirt made of carbon fibre?....if it's carbon fibre then $100 makes total sense.
  • 5 1
 @loganflores: no mate I am just comparing regular price of an item of this kind to cheap ass price. 90$ for merino jersey is standard. And if anyone thinks this is an outrageous amount of money for a piece of cycling clothing that can get messed up, he’s tripping balls. Goretex cycling jackets without heavy duty fabric on elbows and shoulders? Pfff, ever heard of a company like Norrona? Rapha? Castelli? Then what about “outdoor lifestyle” companies making casual clothing from cotton? Forgot what Oakley was doing 10 years ago? Jerseys and pants almost double of TLD? Current kids line of TLD clothing?

I am laughing at the typical Pinkbike price outrage. I’d never buy this jersey, even for 50. 20$ For almost any long sleeve thing, cotton included, smells of “carbon ocean fill” practices. With major cycling brands I can have at least a dime of hope that workers get paid something, that color agents don’t go straight into rivers, pick as many externalities of clothing production you want - they’re all sht in case of 20$ jersey, no production ethics can be involved. Someone at Mons Royale or TLD or Maloja is sitting and designing this stuff, someone like Micayla Gatto, someone like me, like you, and you just throw it into the shtpool of “too much for a Tshirt”. I buy quality stuff because there’s value to be had in it, to give back to passionate people making this sport roll.

What a fkng egomaniac me. Not like bunch of studs making informed shopping decisions, managing their budgets in exemplary manner. Never pay too much for a product, don’t be a fool - a motto of happiness.
  • 2 0
 So, where do we differentiate whining and trolling PB on pricing, with genuine discourse for an industry detached from its customer base?

I can't be the only one who rides 3~5 times a week, but cannot justify spending my kid's college tuition on a $10k bike, $500kit, and a $100 shirt. I have done this 18 years now. I don't need carbon. I don't need new standards. I don't need exotic materials. I just need a decent bike, and kit that doesn't break the bank.
  • 2 1
 @focofox37: if you can ride 3-5 times a week you are already in vast minority. Few of my fast friends ride so often. That's close to how often pros ride and very few people with day jobs can afford that in terms of time. Then even fewer have bodies that can cope with more than 3 quality rides a week. Again, 5 shreddy rides a week is a pro level feat. Sorry, you are one of extremely few who ride that often and aren't pro. And even semi pros get sht for free. Unless you count in commute. Then I myself ride 6 times a week. Just bought $150 knee pads.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: I wish my skills reflected my time on the bike. I am good, but living in Colorado, I am humble about my riding ability.

Maybe I am the outlier, and that explains my frustrations.

Between the cost of living a block from a large trail network, limiting my career to opportunities in the local area, and having a family... I just can't stetch my budget to what is the new norm.

I spent my luxury cash on being able to pedal 6-12 miles after/before work on days that work for me. To be able to afford some of the things posted here, would require me to ride less...
  • 1 1
 @focofox37: I've been a student, my weekly surplus budget was like half of a price of a tube. I was riding in gym shorts and old cotton shirts and 15$ helmet, so I know where you are coming from. But we were speaking in general terms and I know c*nts with regular income who will still live by "Don't get screwed" mentality whatever that means. Sure there is ripping off people, sure there are elitist companies selling the experience of exclusive ownership but at the end of the day, most companies, or more precisely people at those companies just want to make leaving by creating things. More often that not, assuming malice, greed is just hurting the person making the assumption. There's just so much shame in such behavior. In the end they are screwing themselves.
  • 34 2
 Almost $500 for a camera bag. WTF is all this crap doing on PB constantly? Hopefully PB is getting paid to constantly shill over priced crap and they aren't just completely out of touch with the readers here.
  • 69 5
 Yeah that thing is pricy as hell. We’re not paid to feature any of this stuff. Sometimes it’s fun to pretend we’re rich.

Maybe we should do a Check Out of safety goggles and Wal Mart athletic shirts next month. Smile
  • 10 0
 @brianpark: safety glasses too please!
  • 15 0
 Hey, if I was an editor, I'd write glowing reviews about overpriced products just to troll people like myself. "Dude, you're not even a mountain biker if you don't have this $700 rain shell."
  • 1 0
 Good idea@brianpark:
  • 4 1
 @jtayabji: durr, that's what I meant.
  • 30 2
 Everyone likes to talk big about buying domestically made stuff "I would totally pay more if product X was made in the US....rah rah...'merica, NRA....posture, posture.... MAGA....rah rah..." and then when they see the actual price tag they start whining and complaining, and ask for reviews of Walmart shit made by a 4 year-old in some bombed out factory working 20 hour days and sold by some 80YO guy with no teeth cause he is making min wage with no heath care. It sure will be nice when this pendulum settles but im not holding my breath.
  • 3 4
 @ckcost: well yeah if he had health care he would have teeth...
  • 8 1
 @jtayabji: ya, that was certainly part of my point.
  • 5 5
 @ckcost: and if he wasn't in that factory he'd be a peasant in a field all day struggling to find food to put on the table and with no expendable income. I totally agree with your analysis about people not putting their money where their mouth is. But the sweatshop fallacy is real - you can't just will an economy into first world status.
  • 5 2
 @trialsracer: I never said you could. I agree, it's a complex topic and without looking at specific cases it's just a generalization. However, there is a difference between living wage jobs in 3rd world countries (which might not appear very living wage to westerners fragile emotions...but provides some level of expendable income or QOL improvements) and indentured servitude in unsafe conditions in the name of padding the pockets of rich factory/brand/corp exec's. Sadly enough...the is still plenty of morally questionable stuff going on.
  • 3 1
 @ckcost: I doubt anyone at Mission Workshop is getting wealthy, selling and making 'expensive' bags and clothing. They play in a very crowded market - don't believe me, check out the carryology website. MW is not 'overpriced' and its certainly not 'crap'. PB might be out of touch with the average income level of the PB reading demographic however.
  • 2 1
 @ckcost: There's all kinds of domestically made bags and camera bags that are actually priced realistically. That is why I specifically called out this bag since I have multiple DSLR bags and packs. I know when something is stupid expensive for no reason at all.
  • 2 0
 Make this happen! Equipment for those of us with mortgages in Vancouver. @brianpark:
  • 3 1
 @twozerosix: Funny, I cant find anywhere I said that the MW people were getting wealthy, but from what I hear thru people that know him, the owner does pretty damn well (as he should). However, I still bet the employees have to spend inordinate amounts of money on beard cream, expensive whiskey and american spirits which must be tough with the SF cost of living.
Im well familiar with how crowded that segment is and also the top quality of the MW bags...I actually have one I've been using for years, along with a made in the US Chrome bag, and I hang with a designer from Peak Designs from time to time. PD stuff is super innovative and high quality and made overseas...and priced accordingly. Nice Euro made bags are similar pricing (Fritag ect).

While there are many on PB who may not fit that $400 bag demographic...lets remember, many are riding BICYCLES that cost THOUSANDS of dollars...so Im sorry, but I guess we can agree to disagree about the targeting miss. (vital reader survey from last year had average reader bicycle cost north of 4k!!)
  • 1 0
 @IronBender: What's your fave with similar features as the bag in question and made in the US?
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: Income level of the average commentator income level of the average reader
  • 1 0
 @ckcost: my comment was directed more toward the OP, saying 'overpriced' and all.

I bought a MW backpack direct from their Interbike booth in 2011 I think (when they had the grass and VW bus in the booth). Have put thousands of miles of air, train, and bike commuting miles on the thing since and its held up. Was less impressed with the ACRE bike bag simply based on the ergonomics but the materials and construction are good. Their stuff is bad ass.

The PD stuff wins all the cool design awards - I thought their first camera bag was sort of liberally inspired by the Arcteryx Khard in the way it laid flat - they have a good recognizable brand and are running with it.

I guess my point is that this price point is the 'new normal'.
  • 2 0
 @twozerosix: Agreed. The discount certainly makes the price sting a bit less....but even still, I would be happy to pay retail for those bags knowing that I would be getting 10+ years out of them. I know a lot of people were not too keen on the Acre bags...but I actually like mine. It's one of the few that dont give me lower back pain after a few hours into the ride. My mom who grew up poor in Germany during WWII always says "my grandma used to say "Im too poor to buy cheep"". Totally agree.
  • 2 0
 @ckcost: that’s a good saying.

How about “give me the luxuries in life and I will gladly do without the ‘necessities’” - Frank Lloyd Wright
  • 1 0
 I was considering purchasing the Mission Workshop Rhake. After reading some surprisingly not-great reviews and realizing that $500 CAD for a backpack is actually kinda stupid, I went with a Timbuk2 Clark roll top... it's awesome and half the price. Highly recommend to anyone looking for a well designed backpack that has cyclists in mind.
  • 1 0
 @ckcost: Some truth bombs getting dropped right there.
  • 15 5
 Mons Royale is great product. Their base layers last forever and really don't smell no matter how much you don't wash your stuff, plus merino wool regulates temperature like nothing else. Durable? It's durable enough; your $90 TLD jersey might be a bit harder to put a hole in when you crash but that doesn't make up for being not that comfortable, stylish, and impossible to clean. We're not all 22 going on 17 and into neon green cycling jerseys made out of plastic. Nice to see Pinkbike start to understand that their target demographic is growing up.

And yes, a $100 merino wool jersey will make a bigger difference to your riding than a $1000 titanium crankset.
  • 2 0
 And a more affordable merino layer won't?
  • 1 1
 found the old guy
  • 1 0
 Funny you must not have been riding in the 90s all about neon and ano purple even the old guys were rocking bright neon everything. And the bmx 22 going on 17s were all about black and dark colors. Mind you I only caught the last few years of the 90s but I was rocking that old hand me down kit for most of the 2000s.
  • 11 0
 "The hard-shells pattern is based on fractals"

- Marketing Associate who once saw a Facebook post about how fractals are "everywhere" and now thinks fractal just means cool geometric pattern.
  • 2 1
 *Marketing Intern
  • 10 0
 Are you F-ing kidding me another pair of mtb shoes designed for narrow feet! Every pair for biking shoes, especially clipless seem to designed for narrow feet!!! Will someone please make a pair of shoes for us with wide feet. I’m tired of finishing rides with numb toes.
  • 5 0
 this
  • 1 0
 I feel you, bro! But I don't get it where Pinkbike figured these were ”designed for narrower feet”, as even the company's site doesn't explicitly state this. I just got my pair and I ordered my size and they've been on the less comfortable side for now, but I only have them since 4 days and I expect them to break in, as with every shoes, including FiveTen and Shimano. I have actually worn them all over the place since I got them, first because I cleaned all other shoes and felt too lazy to clean them again after wearing them again and second because I want to accelerate that break in period. Honestly, when I went playing basketball after the ride on Monday my Hyperdunks felt just like Crocs and I had to laugh. But keep in mind the Ions are only a few days old, so I guess it's only fair to wait some more, after they have broken in. Grip-wise they are not in FiveTen territory, but nothing is, and I remember I have found peace with my Shimano AM7's after I got used to them: they have decent grip, just not FiveTen style grip.

Oh, and I have the black on black Ions and they look killer, so don't worry about that!

By the way, word on the street is Adidas is smothering FiveTen entirely and they will slowly trickle down the brand, discontinuing it; there will be no more marketing around FiveTen in some time from now.
  • 7 0
 2 things- I know Dainese makes quality gear, but won’t all those holes get filled with mud and dirt?

The shirt might be worth $90 if it said “Mons Veneris Royale” instead.
  • 6 0
 I've been using armoform knee pads for about a year. Yes, they do indeed get mud in them. But the mud only gets as far as the plastic holes, it doesn't go through the sleeve and give your knees a mud mask (shame really). They are by far the best knee pads I've ever had, used them in November for 3 days and 120-ish km of riding in Snowdonia, no discomfort, no rubbing, no shifting about. Obviously YMMV as knees comes in different shapes, but I've never had a set of pads that comfy before. I even tested them against Welsh slate, they passed with flying colours.
  • 1 1
 I use them in Uk muddy conditions Great ventilation!!! Yes when Is dirty musd get stuck in this, After spin quick wash and they brand new Take bigger elbow pads than usual Dainese costumer service sucks !!!
  • 2 0
 My shoe issue isn't narrow foot bottom, It's a low volume topside! I have the hardest time finding shoes that fit well, as in the laces don't come all the way together and the shoe is still loose. Anyone else have this issue?
  • 2 0
 No, size 13's. I have five 10's, Teva pinner and used to use teva cranks. Need wider shoes when they are over size 10!
  • 7 1
 90 dollars for a shirt?:'(
  • 14 2
 Merino wool is awesome, but costs a lot. He’ll merino wool socks can cost $25+, so $90-100 for a shirt of it seems about right even it is expensive.
  • 27 1
 I'd want them to throw in the rest of the sheep at that price.
  • 7 2
 @BamaBiscuits: you can get merino wool sweaters from gap for 40 bucks or less. Still doesn’t make sense a $100 dollars tee.
  • 3 0
 @BamaBiscuits: I have two of these merino wool shirts, and yes its nice, but not $110 USD nice

www.jensonusa.com/giro-merino-polo-2016-Pewter-Xx-Large
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 @hamncheez: and the price is right on jenson. Seems like it would stank and how do you wash it? The hell with handwashing
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 @pedrocaio182: Like anything, there are different grades of merino wool. Brands like mons and icebreaker use top of line fibers, while the merino you get at gap or costco is going to be lower quality. You'll see that reflected in their prices where pretty well all the icebreaker casual tees are $80-$100CAD range. At the exchange price the mons jersey above is actually like $140CAD which reflects the quality of materials and the design. Now, with all that said, I would not spend the money on it because I want a jersey that isn't going to get destroyed the first time I eat shit whilst wearing it, and for all merino's great properties, getting dragged across rocks and not ripping isn't one of them.
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 I have a few stoic brand merino wool tees.... they are nice and all but not my choice for technical gear in anything above 40 degrees F. Great base layer for colder days. Also, typically they are pretty thin to be comfortable. One stray branch and you got holes all up in your business and your fancy apres bike shirt is toast.
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 @eswebster: The only upside is that they don’t smell as cotton but they are pretty hot.

For casual wear they are fine but for MTB not so much
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 @juicebanger: I was gonna basically post the same thing, but you said it perfect. Funny, isn't it? All of the complaints about a $100 tshirt that's functional. All the while some fancy named DB fashion designer can sell their non functional crap for up to 10x that. To each their own people. If you don't like it, don't buy it.
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 All the yuppies here in the Bay Area will gobble those things up.

$10k on that Spesh, $800 for the bike rack on that brand new SUV, $500 for a carbon Helmet, $200 for pedals, $300 for the shoes, $40 on gloves, $100 on shorts so what's another $100 for the jersey.

$2k on a skills camp and still the slowest on the hill!

Ya, I love it here! --Go Dubs---
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 @Mtb4joe: Umm at least half of those things cant be bought for much less than the prices you listed. Racks are expensive, pedals start at like 150, same with plastic helmets at like 350 etc.

If I was slow and had lots of money I'd still probably buy an expensive bike. Why wouldn't you?
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 Great more shoes I can't fit my big feet into. awesome. thanks so much. Vans - too narrow. DC - too narrow and junk material! Five Ten - Too narrow Teva Cranks - Fit great! discontinued Teva Pinner - Fit great! soles not as good as the cranks.
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 I’ve got the lighter weight dainese trail skins pads - they are so light they look like they have a 0% chance of working.

But f*ck me they are really good. The only elbow pads that don’t end up by my wrists after a couple of runs.

No one is holding a gun to your head to buy a $100 tee - it’s weird how people are so focussed on the cost of things they won’t buy on PB.

Sure you can buy a cheaper product. That’s capitalism folks.
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 "The hard-shells pattern is based on fractals". Mmmm, it ain't no romanesco broccoli though.
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 I spent the most money ever on a bike this past off season. $1900 on a Vitus Escarpe, because it was on super sale. I've only ever bought 1 other bike new, also at a deep deep discount- otherwise, I've always bought used. I'm an engineer, I make a decent salary. I don't know how people have the spare income to drop $500 on a camera bag, or $90 on a jersey, no matter where it's from. Do people work professional jobs and live in their parent's basement? Or do ya'll live in your office, so there's no cost of owning a home, a car, etc?

I am honestly amazed at how much money people can afford to spend on bikes and equipment. I mean, more power too ya, I just can't possibly do it, and trust me, I want to.
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 phobospwns:oh your probably saving for retirement or/and an emergency or just fiscally responsible or don’t see the value of spending thousands of dollars on something 2% better every three years.
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 @loganflores: Cheers to that!
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 Superfine 100% Merino wool gear is bomber and worth paying a premium for. Don't know about all the extra techno-babble stuff in the Mons jersey, but good modern wool gear lasts practically forever if you take care of it. I've got a base layer T that's 11 years old now, not even from a reputable manufacturer and it's indistinguishable from new.
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 so $275 for a helmet that protects your head and almost $500 for a pack that protects your camera? the irony......
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 Can any ION Amp owners who've used the shoe confirm that they are actually narrow in fit? The manufacturers website and other online retails do not mention this information anywhere, which strikes me as odd.
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 those icon shoes look like orthopaedic shoes for a grandpa...i will better stay with 510
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 I'm gonna send it after work today in Wal-Mart white velcro Nikes just for you.
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 Loving that new POC helmet
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 God created us all equal with narrow feet...then some of us wear flip flops all year round so we can not fit in ion...
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 Great! More shoes for narrow feet. All bike shoes are for narrow feet :/
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 Not 510 impacts
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 Every 5.10 model is too wide for my feet... 661 fits me better, but they have too hard outsole. So I´m happy for more options...
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 @ibishreddin: I have to buy the next size up and they are still tight on the outer edge of my foot. I really wish teva cranks were still around.
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 Still to narrow @ibishreddin:
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 Can you mention a few platform pedal shoes that are design for narrow feet? I'm actually looking for some... lot's of people in this thread bemoaning "another" narrow mtb shoe, but nobodies pointing to specific brands / models. I would wager that the vast majority of mtb shoes on the market are medium or wide in fit.
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 If someone would make shoes for 4E feet, that would be news!!!! Any I would buy 2 pair
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 The dianese pads are very nice. Till you brush against your pedal pins and the mesh rips like a cheap pair of nylons.
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 Damn it Mons Royale I've secretly been calling mountain biking dirt surfing for the last little while and you had to go make it mainstream >Frown
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 Check out, now with no price limit. You knew it was coming...
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 Finally flat pedal shoes that arnt made for people with square feet! And they actually look like normal shoes? Sold!
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 This reads like an ad in GQ Magazine. This isn't about cycling it's about fashion and pulling the most expensive options in each category just based on cost and saying.... hey look at all this cool crap that every man needs. Pinkbike I'm sad for you. This is a massive step backwards from the stuff you've been doing recently.
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 Sorry you're bummed. We've been doing check out for many, many years. It's more "here's some stuff we think is interesting" and less "10 Enduro Specific Water Bottles You Can't Live Without".
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 @brianpark: mostly sarcastic brother. People are bitching about $100 jerseys while riding $8500 bikes.

I actually dig that jersey. Rather buy the fasthouse ones but thats me. And i like those shoes... though i just bought giro jacket 2's...

Been on pain meds all day. Guess my sarcasm only made sense in my head.
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 @brianpark: I think it can be tough for people in the industry, honestly. I've worked in it, myself, so I get it. When cycling is truly your life/livlihood, and the EP on that bag is only $300, it's awesome; super awesome, even.

But when cycling gets relegated to your hobby (because lord knows it's tough to make a living in the bike biz, as fantastic as the experience itself is), and you're looking at full MSRP, it's a lot less awesome. It's really cool, but it's not practical for most people in an already small niche. I think the general idea of "check-out" is high value, high practicality for those of us in the latter group. Some of the former may have crept in here.

That's not meant to be heckling, I truly think it's just an honest disconnect that can be really tough to reconcile for both sides.
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 @phobospwns: Valid point there.
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 Also worth noting: Mons Royale puts together what is hands down the best catalog in the sports industry. Period.
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 that feature to keep the govles between goggles and helmet is neat...
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 Great shoes for Nurses who have no sense of styleSmile
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 So good designed pack!
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 $90 for a jersey Eek
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 Heard that 100$ shirt can cure cancer...
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