First Look: Actofive Unveils Fully CNC'd Aluminum P-Train

Sep 23, 2020
by James Smurthwaite  
Actofive P-Train

Actofive left us with jaws on the floor when it unveiled its steel and aluminium P-Train back in May of this year. The bike combined a steel-tubed front triangle with a CNC machined rear triangle in a masterful metallic mashup. We're currently awaiting our test version to arrive in the mail, but in the meantime, Simon Metzner has produced another version of the bike, this time fully CNC machined from 7075 aluminium.

Actofive P Train
Actofive P-Train
Steel and aluminium (left) and fully aluminium (right)

Taking it back a bit, Actofive is a small part of larger company Simon runs called Metzner Engineering. His daily bread is the creation of CNC parts for the mechanical engineering and automotive industries, from the sketch to the finished part. The steel framed Actofive is currently welded by local partners, but with the machines and knowledge already part of his daily life, it seemed like a logical step for Simon to start producing his mountain bikes using the same technology.

The frame is built in two halves from a solid block of aluminum; it's worth noting that to simplify the production process and increase the reliability it's not a joined shell construction but two solid halves.
Details

Frame Material: 7075 aluminum
Travel: 140mm rear, 160mm front
Wheelsize: 29"
Head angle: 64.5°
Reach: 475mm for size M
Price: TBC
More Info: actofive.com
The sides are then joined predominantly using bonding, although the rear end is the same as on the original bike and is joined using titanium bolts.

This isn't a carbon copy of the original Actofive, though, with the most obvious change being a realigned shock. Rather than sitting horizontally and joining the downtube, it now is mounted vertically and meets the frame on the top tube. Simon says the kinematic remains the same despite the change but it gives the front triangle greater stiffness, gives him more space to play around with different rockers and leaves enough space to mount a large water bottle in the front triangle.

Actofive P-Train

Actofive P-Train
Actofive P-Train

Without the restriction of using round tubing, the frame now looks more swooping but most of the bike is still relatively unchanged. It still has 140mm of rear travel, a high pivot suspension design and 29" wheels. However, Simon did take the opportunity to tweak some of the geometry numbers so the head angle drops from 66° to 64.5° and the reach shrinks back slightly from 480mm in a medium to 475mm.

Actofive P-Train
The two halves of the front triangle are joined predominantly by bonding.
Actofive P-Train
The linkage? Yep, CNC'd too.

Actofive P-Train
Actofive P-Train
The swing arm remains unchanged from Simon's other bike and is joined with titanium bolts

Actofive P-Train
A finished frame ready for the trails

With Simon bringing the production in house, it should be a more efficient and reproducible process than the steel tubes of the other version of this bike. Because of this, he's hoping the pricing between the two frames will be similar, although this is still to be confirmed when the testing process is finished. Simon is currently testing the durability of the two frames and working on making minor improvements as testing progresses. He is hoping to make a limited production run when he feels the bike is ready.

Actofive P-Train
If anyone's wondering about the P-Train name, it comes from Helsinki´s airport shuttle.

For more info and to follow the development of the bike, follow Actofive on Instagram, here.

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269 Comments
  • 257 2
 A thing of beauty is a joy to behold
  • 40 1
 A thing of beauty is a joy forever. My man John Keats said that.
  • 25 0
 @yupstate: My road dog Billy Yeats said

The poets labouring all their days
To build a perfect beauty in rhyme
Are overthrown by a woman’s gaze
  • 15 0
 @yupstate: “It’s pretty. It’s so pretty.” - Sidney Dean
  • 9 0
 Sexy AF!!!
  • 108 0
 "Sexy AF!!!" - whambat
  • 8 0
 One shade the more, one ray the less,
Had half impaired the nameless grace
Which waves in every raven tress,
Or softly lightens o'er her face;

My adopted countrymen Robbie Burns said that
  • 40 1
 "I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" Colonel Sanders getting sh*t faced after realizing chickens made horrible soldiers
  • 1 0
 @neoides: was this not actually Byron?
  • 2 0
 @artistformlyknowasdan: thank you, I needed this for a good chuckle!
  • 10 0
 @yupstate: Didn't think I'd see any John Keats on PB today, but, it's a welcome surprise.
  • 8 0
 @Horizonspace: "She walks in beauty, like the night"

- Lord Byron
  • 7 0
 @leifgren: it's so pretty and witty and gay, and i pity any frame that isn't me today...
  • 12 0
 Daaaaaaaaaamn!!!! - Smokey and Craig
  • 3 0
 @leifgren: good one! Rather look good and lose? Hopefully not the same with this bike... haha
  • 5 0
 damn thing needs a friggin haircut jeeez look at those shaggy ass cables
  • 2 0
 @endlessblockades: Public LOL
  • 6 0
 "Fo shizzle my nizzle"
- Snoop Dogg
  • 3 1
 "hm?"

-me
  • 3 1
 Pinkbike poetry slam on 3, 2, 1. . .
  • 2 0
 My Thing to Be Held is Joy & Beauty. Use your imagimination.
  • 109 2
 All aboard the P-Train choo choo motherfucker
  • 31 0
 Sounds messy.
  • 8 0
 @BenPea: Dirty caboose
  • 9 0
 It really needs to be the pain train proper. Terry Tate approved!
  • 2 0
 I could definitely see Terry Crews riding this thing.
  • 84 2
 I'll say it.. You can hate all you want, it's gorgeous.
  • 62 0
 I don't think you're going to find many objections here... that's one gorgeous bike.
  • 4 0
 @stevemokan: I bet she's pricey!!!
  • 12 1
 Not hating, just don't want to be the one picking all the dirt from the inside pockets of that rear triangle. Would have been better to have these pockets on the outside.
  • 9 0
 @vinay: you wash your bike???
  • 94 26
 Amazing looking bike. Beats the hell out of the ugly Pole CNC bike. And it (hopefully) won't fold like a cheap tent when hucked-to-flat.
  • 26 170
flag conoat (Sep 23, 2020 at 12:41) (Below Threshold)
 what the f*ck are you on about mate!? these are made in the exact same manner, looks nearly identical and the Pole broke an EXPERIMENTAL Chainstay that wasn't meant for production.

but hey, you keep fighting the fight!
  • 87 3
 @conoat: if you think those two frames look nearly identical you might need an eye test
  • 9 81
flag conoat (Sep 23, 2020 at 13:08) (Below Threshold)
 @oatkinso: shock layout obviously is different, but both bikes have the same lines in the front triangle and the same assymetry between the front and rear triangle. both are machined and bonded bikes. They share more in apperance than they differ.
  • 13 5
 Yeah, the Pole bikes are pretty ugly, but I like their hardtails. But this one here looks mouth watering good. What a beauty.
  • 47 4
 @conoat: was not experimental. It was an Industrial Designer trying to be an Engineer.
  • 13 55
flag Imabigboy82 (Sep 23, 2020 at 14:11) (Below Threshold)
 Sheep, bah bah bah bah bah bah I'm a sheep look at me. Never owned a Pole and won't buy one of these but bah bah bah look at me..
  • 47 4
 @Imabigboy82: username checks out
  • 8 3
 From what I understand, the part that broke wasn't supposed to be on that bike (but on a lighter weight one). Either way, of course if you insist on beating a dead horse, please go ahead.
  • 54 0
 Well, Actofive is from Dresden, Germany. Like Beast Components, like Light Wolf (handbuildt wheelsets à la carte). All located in a radius by only 500 m: PB, let´s go for an insight story about that tiny but very "hot" spot.
  • 6 0
 And in Freiburg as well, I think there's Intend, Trickstuff maybe, and maybe others, and a supposedly awesome bike park where I never went.
  • 3 0
 @Will-narayan: there's a nice trail center with good coffee at the bottom !
  • 4 0
 I think Metzner are working with Sour Bikes (another Dresden company) to make a steel full suspension bike too. If it's as beautiful as their other bikes it'll be incredible, and good value too for something so fancy.
  • 3 0
 @Will-narayan: 1h drive from Freiburg is Basel, there's onza, arc8 and then some nice brands... Needless to say that there are tons of good trails in that area!
  • 53 1
 Come to Butthead
  • 12 0
 I wanna like, ride you.
  • 3 3
 This is the best comment ever...
  • 2 2
 Yes
  • 45 1
 awesome for internal cable routing: heat up the frame, take the two parts apart, put in the cables, glue it back together...
sorry... just kidding...
Awesome looking bike..
  • 45 1
 spend your life cleaning
the mud out of those chainstay
cutouts I’m not sure
  • 6 3
 Nothing a little clear tape wouldn't solve.
  • 16 1
 @alexsin: or a hose...
  • 32 0
 Underappreciated haiku...
  • 27 0
 Is that P-train name a shot towards some Finnish bike company?
(You know, the ones producing folding bikes...)
  • 27 1
 You can ship me a bike as soon as they're ready, BUT, you'll have to billet to someone else!
  • 27 1
 You should cnc yourself out.
  • 3 1
 @huntingbears: You can probably show me the toolpath ! lol
  • 1 0
 @huntingbears: Sorry, huntington bears, meant to thumbs up but hit thumbs down
  • 28 5
 looks grim to me
  • 63 2
 Donut even joke about that!
  • 24 6
 really? no one is going to mention that abysmal birds nest of cables and brake hoses hanging 16 f*cking feet in front of the bike? is that some sort of MTB dreamcatcher?
  • 2 0
 do you have venmo? cuz i'm using this.
  • 3 1
 LoL at MTB dreamcatcher.
  • 10 0
 Stunning. Work of art. I don't even care how it rides, I would buy it just to admire it. I can't even decide if the anodized or the raw aluminum looks better. They are so drop dead gorgeous.
  • 12 1
 Not one question on how much it weighs? This thing is a tank, must be a 15 pound frame with no shock...
  • 39 0
 @Caddz: high pivot cancels out extra mass. Verified by my feelings. So basically science.
  • 4 4
 I'm curious as well, I had to go back and re-read but the front triangle is indeed solid aluminum, wow.
  • 6 3
 @gemma8788: it is hollow... machined from a solid into two halves and then bonded
  • 5 1
 @tkrug: According to this language, it doesn't appear to be hollow: "...it's worth noting that to simplify the production process and increase the reliability it's not a joined shell construction but two solid halves." But I think it may just read poorly, the "solid" possibly referring to the lack of welds, i.e. one piece.
  • 6 9
 @Grosey: works for trump
  • 3 0
 Website says “from 4,000 grams without shock” that’s for a medium, so like what 8.2# or so yikes
  • 1 0
 @thisspock: A little over 8.8 actually, there's a lot of metal there either way
  • 6 0
 Just annodise the rear purple and it will be 90s XC light.
  • 2 0
 @thisspock: website still shows the steel version and the old geometry, probably not the weight of the aluminium version
  • 2 0
 @Sethimus: ah, gotcha be interesting to see the difference then
  • 1 0
 You can be sure that this beast is lighter then my new Enduro S5, even with empty Swat storage :-)
  • 2 0
 @gemma8788: I think you read it correctly. That sentence definitely implies that it's solid because it contrasts with a shell (hollow).

Even at 8.8 pounds, I would guess it's not completely solid, but maybe internally webbed, kinda like the rear triangle is webbed.
  • 7 1
 I’m curious if we’ll see someone eventually take the Atherton bike approach, but with 7075 - Machine the complicated bits, join them with 7075 tubing and bond the components together.
Less machining time? But additional assembly time.
Less weight for tubing vs solid section on the main triangle?
Probably wouldn’t look as sleek as this though and aesthetics help sell.

This does look gorgeous, just wish there were additional final machine passes to clean those lines up more.
  • 2 0
 these guys: www.sturdycycles.co.uk
  • 1 0
 @johnny2shoes:
Looks like they are doing 3D printed Ti with Ti tubing and joining with welds.
Lovely looking bikes. Thanks for sharing that
  • 1 0
 @johnny2shoes: Damn
  • 6 0
 Hate to be picky, but that cockpit cabling doesn't match the rest of the gorgeous. BARSPINZ!
  • 6 0
 Beautiful, probably very heavy, very expensive to make, but very cool looking design.
  • 3 0
 I always wondered, with these high pivot bikes, how much longer is the chain? Most chains are 116 link and some of the newer ones are 126 link.. Will these fit on bikes like these with the high pivot chain line?
  • 15 0
 It depends. On the Forbidden Druid, for example, small and medium frames can use a standard length chain, while the large and XL sizes need a few extra links added in.
  • 2 3
 With no lower chain guide on this bike, I bet it's less than the "standard" 126 links.
  • 2 0
 Depends on the frame size, cassette and travel. The 118 was fine with a 42t cassette but when i went to a 46t, I had to add a few links. Most 126 12spd chains will work fine.
  • 1 1
 If your running big cassette, 32t front, lower chain device which I'd recommend otherwise mech will swing wildly as chain stretches and grows on lower run. From memory I needed about 8 links extra.
  • 1 0
 What I did for my Druid is to break two chains in half, minus 2 links. Together they made one long chain for me, and a short chain for my wife's bike.
  • 7 0
 @mtbikemccoy:because adding 4 links (taken from wife’s full chain) to your full chain would only be a one beer job. Friggn brilliant
  • 2 0
 @emptybe-er: Ha! Actually, the stupid point I was trying to make is that you don't have two quick links in a row.
  • 2 0
 @mtbikemccoy: yeah I see what you’re saying, that does seem like the better way to go about it. That way wife’s chain is also pieced together with an extra link, levels the psychological playing field
  • 1 0
 @mtbikemccoy: i’m just friggin around, that does sound better. For your bike, anyway.
  • 1 0
 @emptybe-er: Again, you speak logic; however, my wife weighs about 60 Lbs less than me. A second link is not a problem for her. Especially when they are not back to back.
  • 4 0
 what a beautiful bike! its crazy that i at 6'1" would ride a medium with a reach of 475-480. two bikes ago i would have ridden an xl with a stupid high seat tube.
  • 12 6
 that's too small for you. size up and be amazed
  • 1 0
 I just went from a large at 450 reach to a large at 475! It is way more comfortable but I get worried about the super long wheel base. @conoat:
  • 2 0
 @chileconqueso: don’t be scared. Bikes are fun.
  • 1 0
 I just ordered a angle set for shred dog. I like slacker maybe there is merit to this longer too!@Rageingdh:
  • 1 0
 @chileconqueso: I am 6'2" and ride a bike with a 490 reach. it's a touch short. I am most comfortable at 495, but the XL of my bike (Mondraker Foxy 29) is 510 so too long. fwiw, I do have pretty long arms at my height so something close to 500 feels perfect. also, my bike is 1240ish wheelbase and I have never once thought it was too long.
  • 1 0
 @conoat: I wouldn't call it too small. Could he enjoy a longer reach? Probably, but 475 at 6'1" is pretty reasonable. I for one think it is a pretty great balance at 6'2". 460mm on my hardtail is a lot of fun but can take some extra concentration at high speed, and 490mm would probably feel great at high speed, so 475mm splits the difference pretty well.
  • 1 0
 Bikes are so much fun. But sometimes I would like my hand held through the tough decisions @Rageingdh:
  • 1 0
 My local trails are pretty tight and twisty.My old epo was a blast and my new nimble 9 is better. The small change in geo was noticeable on a few rough uphill switch backs. it is overall better fit and handling. I’m using all the same parts. @4thflowkage:
  • 1 0
 @conoat: I'm 5'8" riding a bike with reach of 495 and it is the best bike I have ever ridden by some margin.

Of course, reach is not the only parameter in play - 622 VTT, 78.5 degree SA and 62.5 degree HA also play a part.
  • 1 0
 For another anecdotal data point...I'm 6'1" and 34" inseam.

In June of 2019 I went from 450 reach to 470 and adapted almost immediately (other geo was similar besides steeper ST). Just updated to 490 reach Sept 1st 2020 and also went to more modern geo AND bigger 29" wheels. This was defiantly more of an adjustment, but after 10 rides I'm beating my PRs and this is mostly on steep techy trails with lots of tight switchbacks/catch berms/etc. Having said that... I don't think I could go any longer with my relatively short torso (all legs here).

As always, test ride as many as you can... everyone's body type, weight distribution, riding style, physical conditioning, and favorite terrain plays a part in the geometry that works best for you.

For anyone who is interested, the bikes were 2016 Evil Insurgent, 2019 Revel Rail, and 2021 Specialized Enduro.

Lastly, this is a cool website I stumbled on for comparing different bikes geo: geometrygeeks.bike
  • 6 4
 What is the point of such a wasteful method of manufacturing? 3D printing might make sense but cutting away every thing that doesnt look like a bike frame?

CNC billet certainly doesnt have the best record as a manufacturing method for structural components. Maybe look at a little bike industry history. Specifically the history of broken machine billet bike parts.
  • 5 1
 Every taken a look at any aerospace structure? Hint, it looks like this.

3d printing isn't at a level where you can produce parts like this at anything resembling economical, and it's not as structural as a machined part.
  • 2 0
 @k-n-i-x-o-n: I would expect that a tube would have a greater strength to weight ratio than a machined equivalent (e.g. rear triangle) - bonded front may be equivalent, but I suspect still a weight penalty.

Happy to have someone point me at evidence that I am wrong, but not likely to just take a comment as a given.

Very good looking frame either way.
  • 5 1
 Because modern aluminium bikes are not heavy enough already, they make solid frames now
  • 1 0
 Machining from a solid billet of 7075 is obviously not very cost effective for large production runs...but small batches might have a niche market. Initial design and programming would be expensive, but 7075 is easy enough to machine.
  • 3 0
 Dude, the price on these things is epic. The chro-mo frame (no shock) is 4k euros. So I'm pretty sure "small batch" goes without saying.
  • 5 0
 I love everything about it. Except;
Price: TBC

That scares me a bit.
  • 4 0
 I would have to buy two frames. One for my living room to admire. One the ride. Those tool paths, beautiful!
  • 1 0
 Why use a tube-based front-triangle design when the manufacturing process doesn't dictate it? You could do anything - Mountain Cycle, Cannondale/Magic, heck a Trek Y-Bike. Nothing against the aesthetics, its well resolved, but conceptually doesn't make much sense.
  • 2 1
 Only 4000 euro for frame only for the current version. can't wait to see how much they charge for this lump... How are these "amazing" german engineers managing to use such out of place manufacturing practices and make such dirt cheap product.
  • 1 0
 They only made 20 of the steel ptrain so finding 20 people willing to buy it can’t be that hard, if I had the money I’d buy it in a snap
  • 1 0
 This one sparks a joy! Really good looking bike with proper geometry. I would like even more travel on same platform. Rear triangle is very cool, liked the idea when Hope HB-160 was released. Really keen to try high pivot "pedally-bike". Balfa BB7 was a really good dh bike back then. Good to see idler pulleys to come back!
  • 1 0
 "The two halves of the front triangle are joined predominantly by bonding."

Is the bonding primarily achieved by attaching?

And the attaching mostly brought about by fixing together?

And the fixing together mainly done by connecting the parts.

And the connecting is via the method of binding.

And the binding is done through securing?
  • 1 1
 last comment got hidden. does anybody know if a company has ever tried a hydraulic drive-train for bikes. imagine how well a bike could be designed without having to worry about chain line, chain growth and pedal kickback. i like the idea of high pivots, but i hate the look of the drive-train.
  • 2 0
 Rotor makes a hydraulic 1x13 drivetrain.
  • 1 1
 @Ginsu2000: that’s hydraulic actuated chain drive train. I meant something like having a rotating piston hydraulic pump interstates in the bottom bracket area that is directly driven by the cranks. Then you can route hoses To the rear hub however you need to without interfering with suspension design.
  • 3 0
 @GAQ: There have been a couple of initiatives over the years for mechanical shaft rear drive bikes, and even to the extent of having 2-wheel drive with the front getting an assist through a flexible cable shaft. However, I've never heard a whiff of anything having a hydraulic drive which is why I kind of skipped over your comments concerning eliminating various chain tension effects and thought you were be asking the more obvious question about hydraulic shifting rather than hydraulic drive. Time to start up your own R&D and build a prototype Smile
  • 1 0
 @GAQ: that’s a system frequently used in tanks and trucks as well as two wheel drive off road motorcycles. the vw westfalia sychro being perhaps the most main stream. its interesting to think about for a bicycle though i would imagine its just too inefficient for human power. probably even less then a shaft drive. with human lowered vehicles efficiency is king.
  • 4 0
 mullet 160/160 and I'm in love
  • 2 0
 Can't get this thing out of my head!

This should also be good for custom geometry?
(As long as it fits into the mill, quite probably a donut would be too long...)
  • 3 0
 If the P-Train should have a signature color, it should be yellow. Amberish yellow.
  • 3 1
 Don't eat yellow snow...
  • 3 1
 This is pretty much my dream bike but that rear end is catastrophic for cleaning and would make the bike a pound heavier from the accumulation of mud in those... mud slots.
  • 3 0
 Agreed. Not just the rear, either. All those machine lines EVERYWHERE would collect crud and be impossible to keep clean.
  • 4 2
 I love the term "bonded." Its like, these fancy college types trying to make something sound sophisticated. . .when in reality we all know its. . . Ahem. . . Glue!
  • 2 0
 Raw and anodized aluminum will always look better than paint in my opinion.
  • 2 0
 That´s the hottest frame i´ve seen in quite a while. It being aluminium is the cherry on top.
  • 3 0
 the best looking bike to date
  • 3 0
 agreed, I didn't want a new bike, until, today!!!
  • 1 0
 i wonder what the alignment process is like for these frames? how do they make sure the two sides of the bb shell align perfectly?
  • 1 0
 Looks like the BB shell is a one-piece tube seperate from the frame halves. No alignment issues.
  • 2 0
 $5500 for just the frame on their regular bike.... i cant wait to see how much the full CNC one costs!
  • 3 0
 This bike really deserved the cleanliness that Sram AXS offers...
  • 2 0
 Just came to mind that this bike is unrideable. You'll always end up drooling at it instead of riding... Smile
  • 2 0
 1998 called back !!! they want your technique back ! my Foes Mono DHS 2001 is like that !!! except it welded !!!
  • 3 0
 How many pounds of mud can the swingarm hold ?
  • 1 0
 Bar shock position, that frame looks very much like my old Turner DHR. That said, the P-Train is an awesome looking piece of engineering!
  • 2 0
 that rear triangle man.... holy shit
  • 1 0
 Is there any difference between CNC'ed tubes vs. traditional butted tubes? In terms of strength, stiffness, and others.
  • 2 0
 7075 Aluminum alloy can’t be welded and 7075 billet has different strength:weight properties to 60xx Aluminum tubes. No need to heat treat or check alignment after welding/heat treating.
Also, a CNC machine can work 24/7. Pole was saying that they’re able to automate/robotize quite a lot of the frame fabrication and assembly process, and energy is often cheaper at night and on weekends.
  • 1 0
 @Swervsroundsquirrels:
There is also the advantages of localisation of material width for optimized fatigue properties,
perfect aligment, in house manufacturing for a small company and a relatively easy achievable custom geometry
What must be addressed is a better joint method that would allow anodising.
  • 2 0
 @Swervsroundsquirrels: actually, there are welding techniques for 7075 now. Not common, but is is being done.
  • 3 1
 Drop the fork 10mm and mullet this beast.
  • 1 0
 You can have a mullet version from them, I think they just change the linkage a little
  • 1 0
 In all seriousness, not trying to joke, but isn't there a patent on this sort of frame?
  • 26 0
 You can't really patent a manufacturing process that doesn't include some novel aspect to it. CNC machining two halves from billet and using structural adhesive isn't novel as much as it is an engineered solution, and has been used elsewhere in multiple industries for decades. If they had invented a new manufacturing process (Like GG's Revved carbon layup and material), then you might have something worth filing a patent over.
Source: I'm a design engineer with ~40 utility and design patents.
  • 2 0
 @uncanny: Thank you for your answer. I appreciate it.
  • 2 0
 My god, that is stunning.
  • 2 1
 didn't think I'd see the pole staminas dethroned so soon, this is beautiful.
  • 2 0
 475mm for a size medium? thats a bit far dont you think?
  • 3 0
 Trying to be uber-trendy but lots of riders, pros included realise too long isn’t great either unless you like the feeling your front end belongs on another trail
  • 2 0
 @Molesdigmyjumps: totally disagree. There are surely a few pro riders out there that say bikes are too long but racers almost exclusively run as big of a bike as they can handle.

I’m only 6’1 but my XL Commencal supreme 29er with a 495 reach and over 1300 wheelbase feels amazing. Granted, it’s not the most fun, skippy thing ever. But I’m terms of going fast, nothing touches it that I have personally ridden.
  • 1 0
 @HurricaneCycles: ok fair point. Maybe I was exaggerating, think you’re right though it depends on what you like and what you ride. I was only really trying to make the point that super long won’t suit everyone just because the industry is feeding us that
  • 1 0
 @HurricaneCycles: like 6'1 richey rude riding a medium yeti, etc etc. :-)
  • 2 0
 There is an awful lot of lovely stuff coming out Germany at the moment.
  • 1 0
 Too bad the stays are so short and don‘t grow by size. I enjoy longer chainstayd
  • 1 0
 As it’s a high pivot design they get longer through the travel so as things get rowdier the bike becomes more stable, you can also choose between 2 cs lengths I think as well ????????
  • 2 0
 Looks like a mix between a Forbidden druid and a Pole
  • 2 0
 now please add an INTEND fork to that beauty...
  • 1 0
 Wow, that CNC'd version is a stunning bike! I really love the steel one too though, one of each please!
  • 1 0
 I'd love to see a video or gif of the shock and rear end cycling through its travel.
  • 1 0
 This thing is beautiful, indeed. The prototype with the steel front end, however, was pretty damn nice too.
  • 2 0
 Is the rear tire on backwards??
  • 3 0
 i'm aroused
  • 2 0
 It's beautiful. I've looked at that for 5 hours now.
  • 1 0
 Same or very similar technique as pole use. Those stays look like mud collectors
  • 1 0
 Love me some CNC but really can't see the point. Better how? Now them Athertons...
  • 1 0
 I’d pole dance down razor blades for one of these
  • 2 0
 POLE dance I'll see myself out
  • 1 0
 @mikekazimer In what way are the two halves "bonded"?
  • 1 0
 glue
  • 2 0
 No love for the i-train
  • 1 0
 full review dropping tomorrow with huck-to-flat video?
  • 1 0
 Thing of beauty but that swing arm would be a pain in the dick to clean
  • 1 0
 Just wait for it to dry then you can mock out the mud in little cubes
  • 1 0
 Sick machine work and toolpaths!...but the rear tire is on backwards...
  • 5 4
 Pole but not a bending one
  • 3 3
 Dem scallops make me hot but I think i still prefer the steel. Thin tubing is just so nice to look at.
  • 2 0
 TAKE MY MONEY
  • 2 0
 Take my kidney (dont have the money!)
  • 2 0
 Is the frameset over 8k?
  • 2 1
 That thing is 100% pure Awesomeness packed in a bikeframe
  • 1 0
 I feel some fatigue cracks coming on!!
  • 1 0
 Because that definitely doesn't happen with normal aluminum frames right?
  • 2 0
 @Bikerdude137: Where do ally bikes tend to crack, either at welds, or in the machined parts. One big machined part here!
  • 1 0
 Now that's a good looking bike!
  • 3 1
 Ditch the orange fork
  • 1 0
 I’d ride that steel one ten days a week. *swoon*
  • 1 0
 Very nice! Finally something a little different.
  • 1 0
 Stunning, she's a looker!
  • 1 0
 P train, sounds like a German thing on the HUB
  • 1 0
 Well that is just freaking gorgeous!
  • 1 0
 shut up and take my money!
  • 1 0
 Nah, I only like frames built on a home forge & anvil.
  • 1 0
 Ahhh, the good old days of broken cnc'd parts everywhere.
  • 1 0
 I think I’m sold, I like it more than the pole
  • 1 0
 I'll take one in ano purple.
  • 1 0
 This is pure art...she's a steed I would like to ride for sure.
  • 1 0
 Stunning just stunning .... I want one even if it rides like the GD
  • 1 0
 Incredible industrial artwork
  • 2 0
 "C-N-C oi, oi oi"
  • 1 0
 How much less would it weigh made from Ti?
  • 1 0
 Well thats a pretty thing
  • 1 0
 I am soooooooo attracted to this one ...
  • 1 0
 Could of cleaned up the witness marks a little bit.
  • 1 0
 and just because you can, doesn't mean you should.
  • 1 0
 Does anyone know the brand of the floor bike stand?
  • 1 0
 WOW! Thats a solid looking bike
  • 1 0
 Curvy, sexy, looks like my girlfriend.
  • 1 0
 All aboard the Pee Train...
  • 1 0
 Master craft all over that, sign me up on the waiting list!
  • 1 0
 So good!
  • 1 1
 Much like a motocross bike? What are Mx bike linkages called?
  • 2 2
 where did they Pole this design from?
  • 2 1
 looks like a session Wink
  • 1 0
 But like, upside down
  • 1 0
 Chro Mo plez
  • 1 0
 Very cool.
  • 1 0
 Lovely
  • 1 1
 My what a beautiful creation
  • 1 0
 OMG! WOW! WANT!
  • 1 0
 Best looking bike.
  • 1 0
 Outstanding work!!
  • 1 0
 She's a looker.
  • 1 0
 Wooow! Gorgeous!
  • 1 0
 Son of a b#$@h!!
  • 1 0
 take my money!
  • 1 0
 YES please
  • 1 0
 Looks like a Pole....
  • 1 0
 That aint gonna be cheap
  • 1 0
 Yes
  • 1 0
 Looks awesome!
  • 1 1
 effin' wow!
  • 1 1
 AKA "Not The Grim Donut"
  • 1 3
 All that work for a 140/160 bike. Could have just bought himself a used sb5.5
  • 1 1
 I'll blow my wad on it!!
  • 1 1
 Looks like a donut
  • 1 1
 Fuuuuckin gimmme!
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