Two Niner Hardtails - No shocks, No Front Derailleurs Required

Dec 3, 2013
by Richard Cunningham  

Niner has some fun up their sleeves this week - two bikes that are perfect for one-by-eleven gearing systems, in a new color option. Though the SIR 9 (a steel-tube Reynolds 853 beauty) and One 9 RDO (high-zoot carbon race bike) couldn't be much further apart when it comes to personal style, what they do have in common is design with an eye for detail and versatility.

Niner hero pic

Niner's SIR 9 steel hardtail (top) and One 9 RDO carbon fiber hardtail can both be configured with gears or as single speeds. An eccentric bottom bracket shell allows the chain to be adjusted while using a 142/12mm through-axle rear hub.



The One 9 RDO and SIR 9 are perfect examples of Niner’s versatility. On the outside, these bikes seem very different - the One 9 RDO is destined to be the race bike of choice for Niner’s 2014 professional sponsorships, while the SIR 9 is a bike most accurately compared to custom steel frames. What unifies them is their versatility and simplicity - both are excellent choices for single speed or 1x11 drivetrains (the SIR 9 is also front derailleur compatible).

The functionality of 1 x 11 drivetrains is addicting - this is a lesson we at Niner have learned over the last year. Our demo fleet features XX1 on several models, both full suspension and hardtail. The constant comments from demo riders about the silent operation, perfectly predictable shifting and the lack of any chain noise are one argument for this set up - the fact that the components have outlasted over 130 days of demo is another.


One 9 RDO

You’ve probably noticed we have a habit of revisiting our classic models and occasionally injecting them with a huge dose of YEAH! In the case of the One 9 RDO, we’ve created a completely new bike – melding the single-mindedness of the legendary One 9 with our award winning Air 9 RDO carbon chassis. The result is lightning quick, strong as a gorilla but sexy as they come. In other words, the One 9 RDO is going to make you forget all about your other bikes. If loving the One 9 RDO is wrong, you won’t want to be right.

Niner One 9 RDO side shot 2014



Refined design: The newest member of our hardtail RDO program, the One 9 RDO is a single speed racer designed to go flat out fast. The One 9 RDO is specifically intended as a single speed racing bike, utilizing the reduced diameters and trimmed profiles of our RDO hardtail line up throughout. The rear brake mount is tucked inside the curving stays to distribute twisting forces evenly, permitting smaller caliper mounts and decreased wall thicknesses. Even the headset races in the head tube are molded carbon - we shaved grams wherever we found them. The net result? A single speed that can’t be matched for quality and weight.

Biocentric Bottom Bracket: The Niner BioCentric II makes adjustments easy across a wide range of gears and eliminates the need for adjustable dropouts, giving the cleanest possible solution for single speed use. No bolt on hubs, no chain tensioners cluttering your ride, no brake adjustments with gear changes.

One-by drivetrain ready: For those who want a little extra versatility, the One 9 RDO is compatible with Niner’s CYA bottom bracket system, enabling riders to run systems such as SRAM’s XX1 or XO1.

Real World Weight Savings: Sharing key layup and mold features with the Air 9 RDO, combined with the singlespeed simplicity of this frame, gives the One 9 RDO an average weight of 1235g. Combined with the Niner RDO fork, you are looking at one of the lightest mountain bikes available.

Hardtail Geometry: As verified over and over again in independent reviews, Niner has hardtail 29er geometry dialed. Climbing or descending, the geometry of the Air 9 is tuned for great handling and rider positioning. The One 9 RDO is intended for 80 to 100mm forks, allowing you to fine tune your ride.


Check out Niner's One 9 RDO specs and geometry here.




SIR 9

At a time when carbon super bikes (including our own flagship models) dominate the stage, why would Niner shine a spotlight on the SIR 9? Perhaps it’s better to ask “just what is it about steel bikes?” Why, when we get on a steel frame, are we instantly transported back to that first bike we loved as a kid? Why is steel just as relevant today as it was 50 years ago while other materials have come and gone?




Like other Ninerds, we ride and love steel bikes, as do bike connoisseurs around the world. But something about steel being equated with retro seems almost unfair. There is simply no reason frames built with one of the best metals on the planet shouldn’t benefit from and take full advantage of cool technologies like updated headsets standards, tapered forks and through-axles. All the fun, all the advantages, all the steel.

New Tubeset and Award Winning Geometry: All steel is not created equal. The SIR 9 tubing is a custom selected set that utilizes the best tube options for each application within the frame. For the front triangle, we employ new Reynolds 853 DZB (double zone butting) tubing. Developed for mountain bikes, and specifically 29ers, Reynolds 853 DZB offers two significant advantages:

Down tube Clearance: Fork/frame clearance for 29ers presents unique obstacles because of the relatively high head tube to bottom bracket height. A straight down tube needs to be welded high on the back of the head tube to achieve fork clearance, often requiring either a gusset between the head tube and the down tube or a thicker heavier down tube to achieve desired strength. We worked with Reynolds to bend the 835 DZB down tube expressly for the SIR 9 so the tube can attach lower on the head tube without interfering with the fork crown.

Increased Precision: A lower attachment point for the down tube improves front end rigidity. The Reynolds 853 DZB down tube further differentiates itself from others by incorporating two different butting profiles on the same tube – extra strength at the head tube to reduce torsional flex combined with a butting profile in the rest of the tube that maintains ride quality and avoids weight penalties Strong where we need it, compliant where we want it. For the stays, we incorporate steel, custom-bent in three dimensions, with investment cast bridges and dropouts for ride quality and tire clearance. This shaping is proprietary to Niner and is notfound on other steel mountain bikes. When combined with the new 142 x 12mm axle, the rear end of the new SIR 9 provides superior power transfer while preserving the smooth ride quality expected from a steel frame.

Complete the package with Niner’s hardtail geometry expertise and the result is a new frame that is sure to win as many rider’s choice awards and great reviews as has the original SIR 9.

Niner SIR 9 prices 2014

Check out Niner's SIR 9 complete specs and geometry here.



How Niner's Biocentric II Bottom Bracket Works


Niner Biocentric II Installation from Niner Bikes on Vimeo.



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  • 138 5
 I was getting pizza the other day and as I was paying for mine, I heard the guy behind me order something completely different to what I did so I got angry at him just because he wanted something different even though it has no affect on me.
  • 22 70
flag taletotell (Dec 3, 2013 at 8:05) (Below Threshold)
 And then because I had an open mind I decided to go to sites that had nothing to do with my interests. Psych!
Is it bigoted to want a site that focuses on kinds of riding that I like? Does anyone know a good DH/FR focused site? I used to know one, but it became a generalist site that occasionally showed me interesting stuff, but more often began to show me whatever was trending generally, just like MTBR.
How long before a road bike review comes up? I am not knocking this or any other bike, but I was under the impression that PB was a site that focused on a different kind of riding than mtbr.
  • 13 2
 I don't really use mtbr because i think PB has it all covered which is a good thing.
  • 9 2
 Bigoted? No. It's called selfish. There's plenty of other sites out on the web go have a look. PB def has a lot of clout to be able to try out all this gear. Hey there's a road bike forum in pb.... does that mean they lost focus and are useless now? Theyre all good sites that indulge in information related to our passion: bikes. Quit being a whiner over free information and reviews.
  • 8 5
 @Madmax: thanks for understanding and arguing based on merit. You make a valid point and I would argue with you but i am just finally so glad someone understood what I was saying, even if they didn't agree!
I feel good.
And yeah, who am i to say what PB should or shouldn't cover. At the end of the day i am just another weeny whining about how I want more of this or that covered.
I just say it in a more convoluted fashion.
  • 16 0
 A SS 29er??!! PB, you trying to give the kiddies a stroke?
  • 3 3
 ... and here I thought people would be arguing semantics. The first bike pictured is fully rigid. Hardtail to me implies that there is some form of suspension up front. These are rigid frames as opposed to suspension frames, what goes up front determines whether the bike is rigid or a hardtail. Maybe I'm being hard nosed for not acquiescing to the constraints of marketing where brevity is more important than clarity.
  • 3 0
 We're all critics and all opinionated.
I wish pb didn't have like 5000 kids reposting the same questions under 4 different screen names, but hey..what can I do?
  • 17 2
 I don't hate 29ers but going back to the pizza analogy, paying $3000 for a single speed hardtail is like paying $10 for a slice of cheese pizza.
  • 3 0
 Better have the finest damn cheeses from across the world
  • 3 0
 what about NSMB...?
  • 4 0
 Diversity is a great thing, otherwise we would all be eatin cheese pizza, and just like everything else, a pizza in a fine dinning restaurant won't cost you the same as in pizza hut.... The reason why I personally come to PB, it is because I can see all MTB orientations, from FR to XC to DJ to even funny road bike stuff, the photo epics, the great reports, the insane videos, and etc. I mean think about it, for free you are eating in a fine dinning restaurant, and some of you still ask for special treatment. Talk about Cojones!
  • 3 0
 10$ that's a deal if you ever use bcferries!
  • 4 3
 @taletotell please, go f*ck yourself if you have anything better to do. What comes up when you pull up the home page is not "Pinkbike.com: Freeride and Downhill News, photos, videos, and events," it says "Mountain Bike news, photos, etc"

Just because it doesn't have absurd mounts of travel does not mean it's not mountain biking. I have a friend who has a SIR 9 and he is one of the best riders I know- he rips FR on it regularly.
  • 3 0
 @tjet dont forget the ~NETA! Jajaja.....sory jaja is haha in english.
  • 2 1
 Wow, @taletotell, I'm feeling a bit called out, though I thought the use of hard-nosed to juxtapose hardtail was somewhat creative. Too pedantic, or did the word clarity click your memory to this link? I offer my humblest apologies and upvote your link! Now I have to go back and watch it a second time just to revel in the language.
  • 1 0
 I just enjoy goofing around. Razz
  • 1 0
 Mj...jajajaa youtube university
  • 1 0
 Excuse... hahaha
  • 2 0
 i love 26 inch and have only owned 26 inch bikes but 29ers shred! they make climbs so easy and even the rockiest of trails a bit more fun
  • 4 0
 BIKES...RIDE ONE!
  • 33 3
 Some like 8" of squish, some like zero squish and 1 speed. It's all about what you enjoy. Not everyone has access to lifts and bike parks. Not everyone wants access to lifts and bike parks. I've been on both sides of the fence and my current flavor of choice is a carbon SS 29er. I suffer going up (and enjoy it) and have fun going down - especially with the new "Flow" trails that don't require an 1" of suspension...
  • 24 5
 That's cool...as long as they don't neuter existing trails to create these "flow" trails.
  • 4 26
flag taletotell (Dec 3, 2013 at 7:56) (Below Threshold)
 And some people like volley ball, and some people like ice hockey. That's cool, but I thought PB was a site with a different focus. Do we need to know about everything that rolls on any kind of dirt?
  • 15 1
 That's funny. I always thought Pinkbike was a huge international cycling forum and news page for everyone to share what they do and answer questions from the consumer point of view. As far as I'm concerned, these are bikes. It's not just about downhill here you know.
  • 7 13
flag taletotell (Dec 3, 2013 at 8:23) (Below Threshold)
 I guess I assumed that it was focused on bikes with a more aggressive purpose because that is what they primarily covered in the past, even though it was a smaller niche market. If from day one they had been an xc site I don't think I would have gotten into it as much.
Am I wrong or has there been a very significant change in what PB covers? If I am wrong I'll sit down and shut up but look at the content:
When was the last time they covered a DJ or 4x bike? They used to do it all the time. They didn't even cover the huge change in DJ geometry that has happened over the last year.
How many full on DH bikes have they reviewed compared to trail or xc bikes this year? What was the ratio last year? How about the year before? Don't tell me what is popular has changed. XC has always been a bigger market than DH. They used to just make the effort.
They haven't started covering xc races yet, but is that next? I like enduro. It is my kind of riding and retired DHer's do it all the time. It seems like a logical step for PB, but when a third of the products they show anymore are for the XC crowd I wonder why we aren't all watching the xc races.
There is a reason the WC races and rampage get live coverage on PB: that is what we all came here for originally. But do those bikes get much coverage anymore? Nope. we are too busy looking at rigid ss bikes.
PB is selling out. What you see above you is purchased add space.
  • 5 1
 PB is "selling out" to its own user base. There are plenty of comment threads in product review/first look articles with people asking for reviews of more hardtails, affordable bikes, rigids, etc, and on the whole the site seems to be warming up to the 29er/trail type of segment. Plus PB has all kinds of user surveys asking users what they're interested in or would like to see more of. I doubt they're completely ignoring those.

Besides, it's foolish to think the DJ/DH articles/reviews were any less advertisements than this article. They're made by companies trying to sell products too.
  • 10 0
 @taletotell

Pinkbike is a site for mountain bikers. All mountain bikers. Except guys on fixies. Screw those guys.

From Pinkbike:
"Check out PinkBike.com for the latest in cycling and mountain biking news, freeride videos, photos, events and more."
  • 5 2
 Taletotell... your sounding very close minded. Have you ever ridden a SS 29er? They are fun as hell man! BUT, I am not gonna say that is the only bike around that a guy needs. A lot of us have a small quiver of bikes covering all the ranges. Want to go DH? Take your DH bike... XC? Lots of guys have one. And since a lot of us have them, we like to learn about new cool products related to that genre. This is a MOUNTAIN BIKE site... and those two products above are mountain bikes.
  • 3 8
flag taletotell (Dec 3, 2013 at 8:37) (Below Threshold)
 I don't know that PB has started reviewing more affordable bikes, but otherwise touche. Except you paulinator. I never said there was anything wrong with the above bikes. My argument was that they seemed to be off topic, a point I concede may have been incorrect. Have your ever tried road bikes? They are fun too. It had no bearing on my previous point.
Close mindedness did not come into this.
Also for the record I have a 29er. I haven't gone singlespeed because my wife uses it too.
Get off the high horse, examine the argument and argue IT. If you look at the rules for intelligent debate you will learn that you have committed a fallacy: (personal attack and strawman). Very rude things to do in polite discussion. Keep it clean.
  • 2 1
 Amen to that
  • 2 0
 *to Grunk, that is.
No neutering of existing trails please
  • 1 0
 Well put
  • 1 0
 Why not to know..
  • 31 2
 A fully rigid, single speed, 29er.....looks like a suffer-fest to me.
  • 20 14
 Hipster mountain bikes are here! Big Grin
  • 20 16
 And the freaking close-minded brigade is here too.

Take a lap on something that doesn't have 8" in the rear and see if you can have a new opinion form in your tightly wadded little mind.
  • 8 2
 Looks like fun to me!
  • 2 18
flag Extremmist (Dec 3, 2013 at 7:06) (Below Threshold)
 I owned a HT, 4" FS, 5.5" FS and now I own 6" FS and I honestly can't imagine what can this be suitable for. A dirtjumper for someone 8 ft tall?
The only style where 29" hardtails are used is fast XC racing, however if you want to race, a single speed bike is totally useless.
  • 7 3
 @togood2die calm down buddy, they're just bicycles.
  • 5 0
 some people like to ride and not hit jumps, and they actually enjoy climbs...go figure right? and singlespeed is simple, low maintenance fun that makes you strong and lets you enjoy the ride without having to worry about shifting. I can see the usefulness in these bikes although I wouldn't be caught dead on one.
  • 6 0
 Single speeds aren't "totally useless". If you're fit and strong you can ride the shit out of them. Plus they're awesome training tools for teaching yourself to really flow and stay off the brakes, holding onto every bit of momentum you can get. With only one gear to work with you'll pay that much more for losing speed around corners and over obstacles.
  • 5 0
 I just built up a rigid SS 26er and its so much fun to ride. One may think its a "suffer-fest," but trust me, they make you stronger and very much better. You will get punished for taking the wrong line, where my 7" bike will let me go wherever I please. Not only are they fantastic training bikes, but they are super fun to ride. They are so responsive and every movement and pedal stroke counts. Ride one hard before you judge. Two years ago, I wouldn't be caught dead on one, now I think they're awesome!
  • 1 0
 Suffer is a good thing when you ride XC. I think it would make a great uphill training tool....
  • 1 0
 @juanhead what frame did you build it on? Curious cuz I'm looking at a few things.
  • 2 0
 Singlespeeds are the most efficient bikes. Say you have a 2x10, and it's in a gear ration of 36/16. A 36/16 singlespeed bike will always be faster than the 2x10 bike in that ratio, because of the lack of drag from derailleur pulleys and the chain running at a slight anhle.
  • 1 0
 @bkm303: I built it on a Sette Reken frame, Price Point's in house brand. It was super cheap, which was the main motivating factor. I was skeptical at first, but I read lots of reviews and testimonials and they were all good so I went for it. The frame performs really well, I've had it for a week now and been on 3 rides and it really is awesome!
  • 1 0
 @juanhead holy balls that IS cheap! How much squish do you have up front?
  • 1 0
 My friends get pissed when I pull out my single speed, hard tail, trail bike. Not because they're waiting for me, but because I'm waiting for them.
  • 2 2
 " I just built up a rigid SS 26er and its so much fun to ride"

Maybe because 26 is not 29...
  • 1 0
 @bkm303: Its rigid, but I have seen people put a few inches up front. Price Point does a pretty good job with discounts. Despite the price, the frame is light (quoted at 4.5 lbs but I don't have an accurate enough scale to check) and it rides really well!
  • 2 1
 @togoodtodie: your '8" in the rear' pretty much sums up how I end up feeling when I ride a rigid mtn bike.
  • 2 0
 "Kolps"

Similar here Big Grin After I cracked two saddles and bent three rear axles I decided I had enough "fun".
  • 31 14
 Awful lot of money for not an awful lot of bike... I'm sure they'll sell a few though, some people will buy anything shiny and expensive.
  • 34 6
 Or people into xc and xc racing will buy it, as downhillers will spend a lot on a downhill bike...
  • 16 7
 I think the prices are very reasonable, considering the quality of these frames.
  • 14 9
 You could buy a Colorado handmade titanium bike from Moots for less than that...
  • 5 1
 Really ? .... aside from apples and oranges (although Id rather have ti) It seems they are quite a bit more (brief internet search) Educate me on where these frames can be had.
  • 13 1
 i call BS on the Moots comment. a Moots FRAME ONLY is $3000
  • 2 1
 well, different people different taste
  • 2 2
 I was going to post something sly and demeaning about the frames... but its niner... and i just dont care. I mean seriously, i just skipped down to the comments after looking at a few pictures. some people... jeez..
  • 1 0
 @MCMbiker I wasn't aiming that at any specific discipline of riding just riders in general!
  • 1 0
 You couldn't have a Moots for the same price of that Niner... But, you'd be better off rounding up and going with a Moots. lol .
  • 1 0
 Rounding up it's like 50% more?!
  • 1 0
 Excuse my sarcasm in the above comment.. But on a serious note, I would think one would be better off buying a bike/frame from the "big three" companies instead of paying extra for a boutique frame made in the same factories.
  • 2 0
 I agree with that .... my stable is mostly from two of the big three Smile
  • 1 0
 Hey, we made an agreement and we aren't arguing over wheel size. Good Job tup
  • 11 4
 You know that IFHT vid line about "picking your favorite wheelsize and then being a dick about it."
Chris Sugai (Niner founder) is like that, but about 29ers. We get it, you like 29rs because its all that you sell and thats how you make a living. But dont hate on 26 and 27.5 bikes as somehow inferior.
  • 7 3
 To him they are... I can respect it, he started this company well before the hype. Ive seen the video you are referencing here- he's not a "dick" he just touts his brand. He's entitled it's his brain-child.
  • 3 1
 He's entitled to promote his 29er only brand.
  • 4 0
 Actually...he is kind of a dick about it.
He went all in and painted himself into a corner. The irony is that at his height, a 650b probably is a better fit, assuming he does't have to rely on the rollover to clean stuff.

He's entitled to say whatever he wants...we're entitled to buy other brands (which IMHO, there are better, less hyped options) that aren't owned by him.
  • 5 1
 I have never liked the look of the rear on a SS bike. This biocentric is a neat idea and makes for a clean looking frame. Awesome!
  • 3 0
 The real question is does it freeze up in the in the shell like some other eccentric BBs that I've had to cut out of bikes, and then watch my friends spend $100+ to replace.
  • 3 0
 Or does it start creaking after a few rides in the rain? I'm suspect.

The point of a single speed is simplicity but they can be surprisingly problematic and frustrating to work on at times.
  • 1 0
 derailleurs are complicated and expensive, but barring major damage, they're really set-and-forget these days. This was not true in the past, however...
  • 2 0
 Thanks pb, that steel frame looks gorjus, I've always been a fan of skinny minimilist steel frames; price is pretty damn steep though, you can't just re-hype old news and sell it for crazy money, Reynolds 853 has been around forever and so have frames that look like this... as for all the 29r haters - try riding an un-manicured, non lift-assisted REAL MTB trail with someone who has a 29r ... you will want one!
  • 4 0
 I'd steal a lot of things off those damn Who's but a 29er wouldn't be one of them!
  • 7 2
 3 500 and 2900 dollars in Single speed !!!! we take people for idiots!
  • 5 0
 They have one model called the RIP these should be named RIP-off.
  • 4 0
 The SIR is sexy but the ROS is a way more BC-type bike that I'd like to hear more about.
www.ninerbikes.com/ros9
  • 6 1
 specific 29er tube butting loooooool
  • 1 0
 I would buy that 9 RDO as an xc race bike. thats what it was meant to do, and im sure its amazing. but in the first paragraph they say both bikes have an eye for detail and versatility... a carbon hardtail being versatile? cmon
p.s. everyone keep complaining about anything that is different from what you ride. Its funny to laugh at ignorance
  • 6 5
 They used "versatility" three times to describe a 29r hard tail that starts at $3K. I dunno about you guys buy I'm stoked to buy the $5K model for pub rides AND bike paths! Now that's versatile.
  • 2 2
 Very little innovation here on the RDO (placing the brake on the chain stay is NOT new, and neither are eccentric BBs). At 1235g and over $2k for the frame only this frame weight and cost is higher than the competition. I still do a bit of endurance riding/racing in addition to riding park and enduro racing. There are far better options in the category from Scott, BMC, Open, Norco and others. All have frames under 1000g. Say what you will about only 250g weight savings - those weight weenies will pay a ton to save a few grams and this is more than a few. All of those companies I listed have far more compliant frames as well. Niner did a great job on the Air9C when it first came out (props) but they're missing the boat in terms of development of this frame style. You can build lighter without being fragile. You can build a stiff BB for great power transfer, AND compliant seat stays to reduce the small trail chatter.
  • 1 0
 Is it just me or is there no need for the bend in the down tube. If it was straight, there would still be plenty of tyre clearance...
  • 3 0
 The SIR is nice, but the ROS is more my style.
  • 1 0
 Fully rigid is punishing. Looking forward to getting a suspension fork for my fully rigid Sir 9 single speed. Maybe I should save for the XO1 kit too!
  • 1 0
 Would love to take the fully rigid single speed Niner for a spin. Reckon it would be ace fun! Be interesting to know how much slower you would be it.....probably not much!
  • 1 0
 I bet you could build up a used cycle cross bike that would be cheaper just as capable on the trail and even better in the city(commuting)
  • 1 0
 Cool design, but seems like it would be A LOT of work to change a tube or tire if you got a flat or slice if you were running tubeless..
  • 1 0
 So according to the pricing above for the One RDO, an XX1 shifter, derr, & cassette is $2400? Really? I haven't priced that stuff, but that is ridiculous
  • 1 0
 Good to see some SS rigids. Bikes of this nature are awesome, every body should have a rigid SS in the stable. They are a great training tool.
  • 1 0
 honestly, if you believe simpler is better and you want to 'feel the trail' why would you use huge wheels that take away from that?
  • 1 0
 "addicting"

Seriously!?! That's not even a word! Without correct use of English, journalism is nothing. Sort it out. PLEASE!
  • 2 0
 great way to work on power and your technical skills.
  • 4 6
 I kind of feel like there are a lot of xc focused sites already. I understand PB wants to expand their audience, but suddenly I find myself in need of a freeride oriented online magazine to read.
Don't get me wrong. I love PB and will continue to read and visit daily, but too often lately I find myself looking at the main page and saying "nothing for me today" and moving on.
Something has changed, and I think we need to just be friends now PB. With benefits of course.
  • 3 0
 What XC related sites are your referring to? mtbr is the only one I know of, but the overall quality (writing, video, coverage, number of articles, everything) is pretty poor. I'd like to check out the other ones if they're out there.

I personally like seeing a little hardtail/trail/xc type stuff on here, and so far I don't think there's been enough of it to really dilute the front page.
  • 2 2
 www.bicycling.com/mountainbikecom
bikeradar.com (generalist, covered as many aggressive bikes as PB in the last 10 days, even though they cover road bikes too)

I will dial back my rhetoric a bit.
Doing that search was educational for me. There are more freeride focused sites out there than I thought, and less xc focused sites.
It does seem like pb has changed its focus, but maybe it was to fill a need.
  • 5 0
 I love the "don't get me wrong" factor, you can provably curse on the president's mother or shit on his face, but if you put a "don't get me wrong" right after it, you'd be just fine. Now go see how many only FR sites are as famous as PB is, and you'll see why PB don't only post FR/DH stuff. There's provably a 20% of the MTB population that does FR/DH/DJ the rest will probably fall on the trail/XC/Enduro category, like myself. There's a type of ride for everyone, and I'm glad PB knows that. Now, "don't get me wrong" but if you want to see only what you want to see, make your own Danm Magazine!
  • 3 0
 Thanks for the link. I've checked out short reviews and stuff there but I'll check them out in the future.

If there was an XC/Trail type of site with PB's format (lengthy articles, good writing/photography, solid user-submitted content, coherent site layout, frequent updates, strong user community, etc) I would agree with you 100%. From my perspective PB just has a winning format, and is consistently a day or two ahead of the curve vs any other site out there (especially mtbr, who often reposts PB links from the day before), so maybe it was just bound to get more popular and more general. I'd probably be irritated too if I thought the focus was shifting away from what I like (same thing has happened to most of my favorite subs on reddit), but the fact is no other mtb sites out there can really step to PB for quality of content, user community, etc. Maybe if it gets big enough it can split into a gravity page and an general mtb page, but for now I'm just happy to see the diversity in the content. Maybe if the focus shifted less toward 'edits' and more toward competition coverage in general there would be room for everyone (DH, XC, enduro, slopestyle, whatever), but the site might also lose some of the fun factor, idk. Or just have the articles more compact on the front page so there can be more of them. Either way, it's kinda the gift and the curse of having a fantastic site.
  • 5 0
 I think it's sad that people don't welcome the diversity. I like all kinds of bikes, but even the ones I don't ride or don't "like" I enjoy reading about....
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 tjet: "Don't get me wrong" means: please understand my true intent. Don't mistake why I say what I do and then argue some non-existent point. Hate me for who I am, not who you think I am. If I poop on the president in order to save his life some how, and he misunderstands why I did it he might be pretty mad. Otherwise he might tolerate it.
I wouldn't have to say "don't get me wrong" it people didn't jump to conclusions and insert their own meaning into other people's statements: ie. If they didn't get me wrong. . .
Above for a similar statement one guy accused me of hating on 29ers, even though I ride one when I ride certain trails certain times of the year. He got me wrong.
You thought I was using it as some sort of apology so you got me wrong too.
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 @Darkstar63:
Jeeze. I didn't realize I was giving everyone a chance to say they were a fine upstanding citizen. This is like when politicians say they have a black or gay friend.
I don't think diversity is the issue here either. Just putting that out there. Nothing to do with it. It was really more of a organizational complaint. I was saying I wanted this particular drawer to only house wool socks, not that I hated cotton socks.
Just another person "getting me wrong".
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 Don't worry, taletotell. I'm a fine upstanding citizen and I understand your points. (EVERYONE TAKE NOTE OF HOW TOLERANT I AM) Razz

Really though, totally with you on the sock drawer analogy, I just think the other drawers in the proverbial dresser suck, so I'm keeping my favorite undies and pj's in this drawer now too. If the other drawers were of similar quality I'd happily put em all back where they were.

@tjet seems like you might be confusing "don't get me wrong" with "with all due respect"?
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 I wasn't directing that at you specifically, It's just that myself and most the guys I ride with partake in many disciplines and I (personal opinion) think that there is no reason not to. I think the reason in the widening of scope on this site is directly linked to the fact that peoples tastes have changed. The all mountain and trail segments have undoubtedly gained momentum because most of us don't have a chair lift in our back yard. So don't get me wrong Wink I love dh but I spend most of my days on trail bikes. I think I'm one of many.
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 Also, there is another site I enjoy that starts with a "V" don't want to name names that I enjoy a lot that gives less coverage to non gravity. I'm a fan.
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 RDO?!
They shoulda named it the F.U.N...cuz they look like a freaking blast!!
(sarcasm off)
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 The SIR is not my thing but I can appreciate it...
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 Put some slicks on these and they would make wiked road bikes.
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 I'm gonna go ride my bike, why y'all keep arguing over wheel size.....peace
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 Wow these bikes lose a lot of their sexiness in XL. The sloping top tube goes away and they just look giant and unruly.
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 Clearly most of the readers on this site have never attended any of the SSWC events. Good. Please stay home.
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 KILL IT BEFORE IT LAYS EGGS!!!
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 There's probably people sitting there screaming at their computer, that its not a bike withought suspension Wink
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 The SIR 9 is actually really cool. Id never buy one as a complete bike though
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 That how to video was so well done. Got me stoked on that biocentric BB. Such a good idea.
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 God DAMN the SIR is sexy
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 Would make a hot commuter bike for sure....an expensive one at that.
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 couldn't he just just taken another link of the chain?
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 Just get a cycle cross bike
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 Chicken chow mein is delicious!
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 This better come with lycra and udder butter!
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 More gorgeous Niners....1 of each thanks
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 That adjustable BB is really a cool idea! Love to see it on a DJ SS bike.
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 that hat is so gay
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 Not PNW friendly, but might work for [much] tamer grounds?
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 I dunno, I've ridden a rigid bike in the PNW and had a good time. Not everyone has to go 30 mph downhill to have fun. It's not like anyone is going to takes either of these to whistler or on shuttle runs, and there's plenty of fun xc in the northwest.
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 PNW friendly if you ride the nsmba trails up on the shore, they're usually fairly smooth or slow enough that you're not too worried about being jarred around, but you would be served better with an dual suspension xc/trail bike I guess
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 Not PNW Friendly?? I beg to differ. I've been rocking a rigid SS 29er in the PNW for over 5 years now. I'm riding the same trails they run Enduro races on and getting down them just fine and having a blast doing it. Skills, bro, skills. It's not for everyone.
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 Does PB do payola?
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 29ers are cool bro
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 Pb now tests roadbikes.
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 that does not look like niners new (incredibly useless) gravel road bike but sure buddy
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 That bb is really smart idea . I wonder would it not move when wet
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 I think that is why we torque it down.
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 ive just been sick in my mouth
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