There is an oddly contrived ethos of mountain bike localism that exists on British Columbia’s Crown Land (and probably other public lands throughout the world for that matter), one that manifests most visibly in the unwritten laws of film stunts: those jumps, built airs, and manicured cliffs that are only allowed to be ridden by their creators. Funny thing is, no such ownership officially exists. Unless these stunts are built on private land, it’s anybody’s game. So why all the fuss? And fussing there is. When gaps and tables and drops built by athletes and production companies for specific film and photo projects get prematurely poached, shit hits the fan.
British Columbia is a large, diverse, and wildly beautiful province defined by one fairly unique quality. Ninety five percent of its land base, what amounts to nearly 900,000 square kilometres of everything from dry desert landscapes to thick forest to high alpine mountain wilderness, is owned by the public. It’s called Crown Land, a leftover from Canada’s days as the largest territory in the United Kingdom’s once formidable Dominion. It’s a welcome residual to be sure, few countries in the world have as much area dedicated to the public. And when we say public we mean that anybody at anytime is allowed to venture forth without risk of trespassing or criminal offense. Yes, in many respects, paradise.
With so much land, British Columbia lacks the policing infrastructure to ensure those public lands aren’t abused. And they are abused, most notably by the logging and mining companies that regularly rape the landscape via an industrial resource extraction tenure system. They pay a lease to take certain quotas of forest and minerals, and they take a lot, often shipping raw materials straight out of the country. But that's a whole other issue best left for a visit to
David Suzuki's website.
Because of the lack of policing infrastructure as it relates to the shear size of public lands, users like mountain bikers, equestrians and motorized vehicle enthusiasts are forever busy building trails. The large majority of which are unsanctioned by the government. And while you’re officially not allowed to build trails on public lands, there is a culture of ask for forgiveness not permission. Once a trail is there, it’s there. The government doesn't have a "de-trail" budget. Not surprisingly then, virtually every mountain bike trail in the province has been manufactured illegally. Which is all fine and good from a mountain biker's perspective, as the vast majority of these trails are made without restriction to other mountain bikers.
But what many people forget is this ethic of “public land.” I’ve seen mountain bike trails get discovered by trials motorbikers who shred the shit out of it. Mountain bikers go toe to toe with the motorbikers claiming, “this is our trail, we built it, stay the f*ck off.” But in the end, there’s nothing we can do. It's public land.
Back in the early days of the Shore there were “private” trails. Stunt sequences no one was allowed to ride as they were built for movies or photography only. Ride them, or worse, shoot on them, and there was hell to pay. Today, especially in places like Kamloops, you hear swirlings of infighting as it applies to film stunts. When moves are constructed for a particular athlete or film segment, and they get poached by another crew, well, friendships are challenged, reputations are tarnished, shit talk ensues. Poaching is incredibly frowned upon by the film community, and it makes sense.
Kind of.
At the heart of the issue, people are forgetting the whole notion of public lands. If you build it, spend 1,000 hours on it, pour your heart and soul into, and it rests on Crown Land, you have to accept the fact that it is not yours. It’s ours. The freedom to do as you wish, to build these perfectly manicured luge tracks of radness without fear of consequence comes with a cost--the submission of ownership. To even consider that it's yours, even until all the filming is captured and in the bag, is fundamentally wrong. It has to be.
Yeah, don't have to listen to anyone but the police.... and your mother.... and your wife...
Enclosure (theft) by the priveleged few saw the end of nearly all common land in England several centuries ago. George Orwell's opinion on enclosure is worth some consideration...
"Stop to consider how the so-called owners of the land got hold of it. They simply seized it by force, afterwards hiring lawyers to provide them with title-deeds. In the case of the enclosure of the common lands, which was going on from about 1600 to 1850, the land-grabbers did not even have the excuse of being foreign conquerors; they were quite frankly taking the heritage of their own countrymen, upon no sort of pretext except that they had the power to do so."
I envy your crownland...
Does the job market in Canada lack electrical engineers?
It's funny over here, the country isn't determined to evolve technically, to evolve. The rich with all the power and money, only want to get wealthier and couldn't give a shit about anyone or anything else that would actually benefit the country. So what do you get? Technical skills and anything related are not well appreciated.
www.komonews.com/news/local/State-removes-illegal-biking-trails-jumps-from-state-land-146035485.html?tab=video&c=y
Too many freaking laws I tell ya. Too many laws ... too many ways to get fined out the butt.... Good thing we got so many new jails and RCMP stations being built. Now I can rest at night... knowing that my money is being put to new ways of taking even more money from me and everyone else
That would become the german Strength in Numbers...
We take care of the land better than all of them and they still ride our arses.
Yes we do in quebec live in a very different way than other provinces. it do not mean at all that we have a bad hospitality (in fact when traveling, canadian are not welcome everywhere, especially with our current governement we have a really bad image over the world.) but saying i come from quebec make a big difference. still, west coast is sick. if you have to move somewhere only for bike, go to west coast! peace to other canadians!
Also Gabriel I don't think the Canadian image is even remotely bad. In fact you will get glares because they suspect you to be American first , but once you say "I'm canadian eh" they get real chummy fast
Canada is actually pretty liked globally
You are so very fortunate to have Crown Land in Canada. The UK is terrible for trail building because the land owner has a duty to ensure those using their land (including tresspassers!) are not put at danger. The vast majority of land in the UK is privately owned or government owned (FC). Therefore great trail features often get demolished because its not worth the risk to the landowner of someone getting injured, even if they are having fun!
Come on my Canadian citizenship...hurry up!!!
here on this tiny little island we call the UK, its not worth building anything illegal, its a waste of your time
if you can form an association (affiliate a club to British Cycling) you can raise a legal park and insure the facility, with volunteer labour to build and maintain
seems initially like a hassle, but having experienced first hand the heart-ache of having trails demolished, its well worth the administation and promotion to get a group of like minded people together with support from the local community
after losing Esher to legal issues after nearly 8 years of fruitful operation, I hung up my trail building boots and now only do some "landscaping" in my local area, but those 8 years were excellent fun with many satisfied riders coming through the park including some B.C. natives like Wade Simmons and Geoff Gulevich!
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on my first of several visits to B.C. in Canada, I was blown away by the sheer scale and emptiness of the landscape, driving up the Sea-To-Sky highway from Vancouver to Whistler we were shown Vancouver Island which is approx. the size of Wales and very sparsely populated in comparison
Although getting permission is key, make sure to be polite, ask nicely, and to dress well.Keep the trails clear of litter and make every possible safety precaution you can without taking from the riding. A dialed trail looks good to a landowner and rides well. One thing i would say is key is to set up locks or some sort of restrictions, sure you can agree not to sue, but a landowner doesnt know who else is coming down, and probably doesnt even want a load of randomers coming onto his land, setting up locks shows you have control of the situation and flow, and can make sure everyone has signed a waver, agreed not to sue, or is at least supervised whilst riding, a huge safety issue that puts the landowners mind at rest.
if you want to keep the trail dont chop down trees, dont dig massive holes, dont destroy nature, and dont break the boundrys of buildable land set without re consulting the landowner, if they let you build there in the first place and you treat them well they will probably be lenient.
finally make sure to show your appreciation, write a note every christmas, maybe collect up some money and buy some vouchers to a nice shop (john lewis is a safe bet over here). Just some things i have gathered over my time building, and my trail doesnt look to be going anywhere soon (touch wood)
good information from you there!
I'd agree about the problems of establishing a "club" as I am well aware having worked with the Wisley guys and other trail builders that it oftens falls to 3-4 key individuals to do the very hard work of digging and maintaining the trails
this was exactly the same situation at Esher Shore, it was a couple of hard working volunteers led by myself, who did all the hard graft so riders could come from all over the UK and legally enjoy the bike park - all that the entrance fee or membership actually paid for was the expensive insurance (to protect the landowner against claims for injuries), rent of the 3 acre woodland and to buy materials (mainly timber, dirt and wire mesh) plus tools and fixings (nails, staples, etc.)
no one actually got paid directly to work in the bike park, the shop next to the bike park employed me full time with a deal that during quiet periods they would allow me to get out into the bike park and do essential maintainence....of course what really happened was me coming to work 2-3 hours before work, or staying until dark after the shop closed to get the work done in my own time
it was a tough gig (as any trail builder knows) but well worth it to build something so well received.
I would say that the "club" for BMX or DJ trails may be looked at more to provide legal protection for land owners, as under UK law an individual cannot release their right by signing a waiver, to bring a legal action for injuries sustained on private land, and this is what scares many land owners
the situation at Wisley is interesting in that they have legal and locked (controlled access) DJ trails, some of the best in the UK thanks to Diggs, Chris and co. and next door they have semi-legal freeride area that was bulldozed last year as it all got out of control...
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here is an older shot of the FR area with some of the crazy cr*p that people tried to build, this lasted 3 weeks, and did the DJ guys no favours with the land owner, even though it was nothing to do with them?
I think your point about forming a club is valid. In my (professional) opinion, when a club is formed they have a duty of care to ensure that the facilities they construct (trails and features) are safe. If little Timmy tries to land the 15m gap jump and comes up short resulting in a broken face the club responsible for the construction of the trail feature will be the first to be interogated by the health and safety autorities.
Basically, forming a club to construct and maintain trails is a transfer of risk for the landowner.
@James-Carey: I think your comments are interesting, however as a landowner why would you open yourself to unecessary risk, even if you are receiving some sweetners occasionally?
Personally, I don't know where this will end. The utopia would be for someone to set up a fund structure in the UK to get mountain bikers to put into a pot to actually buy land and do what they want with it. The landowners would then be mountain bikers - problem solved ;+)
there is no simple solution to this problem
regarding liability - during one of the first years of operation at Esher Shore we were actually defendants in a legal action where a rider made a mistake, fell from a low level North Shore (timber) trail and broke his neck, receiving a life-changing injury.
After his solicitors realised that Esher Shore as a "not for profit" company with about £100 in the bank account was not worth pursuing, they went after the bike shop that administered the memberships (even though legally the bike shop and bike park were seperate entities) and then the land owner of the woodland (Sandown Sports Club)
We all spent 3 years and £20,000 in solicitors fees fighting this legal action, with the bike park actually closed for 8 months after the accident where the H&SE got involved, freaked out and shut the bike park
we then followed a comedic procedure of actually "educating" the H&SE about safe North Shore construction and basically wrote the rule-book for NS building and FR parks in the UK, and then demolished the old park
and spent several years rebuilding Esher Shore according to the new guidance; you would not believe how well used the "accident book" was at Esher with weekly accidents and a growing sense of deja-vu from the local Ambulance crews, this is what happens when you run a publicly accessible park and despite all the waivers, education and warning signs people get out of their depth very, very quickly
Also i think there is a very unused and forgotten law in place in the uk that wavers anyone from being able to prosecute someone if they hut themselves doing something "stupid" such as an extreme sport as long as there was no claim the spot was safe to ride... (not entirely sure on this one, it was a brief discussion with a friends dad who is a lawyer).
Its funny how one dude ruins something for everyone else though, same thing happened with army land, they were fine with it till some ass fell off and tried to sue the military.
There is one simple solution... dont sue people, if people didnt sue landowners wouldnt fear the idea of having trails on their land and everyone would be happy.
We also had some quite risky stunts (free gaps) which larger overseas operations like Whistler Bike Park will not build as the risk of coming up short is very severe - WBP will always try to make tabletops and fully rollable stunts wherever possible.
An ongoing criticism of Esher during its operation (mainly from more experienced riders or the guys considering themselves "hardcore freeriders") was the ongoing 'dumbing down' of the trails in terms of height reduction and removal of riskier stunts that showed up as a pattern in the accident book.
Even with all the dumbing down, the accidents continued. I specifically remember one rider who bought a Kona Stinky the day before, had not ridden FR stuff at all, and broke his femur on one of the biggest gap stunts...despite telling us "he was going to take it easy!"
The only thing i regret is only ever riding the proper shore once, despite a whole summer spent on the slopestyle course i never got above the blue section. What i do remember from my one time riding the bigger stuff was just how sweet it was (even if i was on my single brake dj rig) All i can say is it was a real loss to the uk mtb scene with nothing else having stepped up to take its place... Its a real shame the uk lacks much proper FR at all.
Just out of interest do you feel you got more experienced rider or more inexperienced riders visiting the park? The main reason i ask is i know the bmx trails scene is pretty exclusive and the trails are awesome so people dont really bother to visit public spots when there are so many underground spots not limited by H&SE.
lots of the inexperienced riders actually were cross country riders (with good XC riding experience) as they would turn up with SPDs, fall off, come into the shop and buy DMR V-8s and ride in their trainers!
with the more "experienced" guys, many would not come back as they would get bored telling us its "too easy" but the weird thing was going outside and watching them ride and they would be hanging up all the gaps and wobbling down the trails, and not doing any tricks or putting any style into it?
yet telling us it was "too easy". From talking to these guys it seemed they were drawn more to just wanting big drops and gaps rather than technical trails, this is something I have seen at many illegal NS trails where the builders just try to build the biggest drop they can find, which is a very lazy way of building a stunt rather than being creative and concentrating on "flow"
BenCtheMusicman: I think your point is valid, however how would you physically implement this?
As a photographer and builder there is always a constant struggle to be the first to shoot your own creations, be it set-backs with weather giving bad light or poor riding conditions, or it be vandalized or even somebody getting the jump on you and publishing it first removing the whole spotlight of 'originality' from the context.
I think the biggest issue to consider is just work ethic, if you don't plan according to have the weather line up within a day of two by the time whatever you've built is "rideable" that's on you and nobody else. The feature is finished, and it gets shot. If there isn't a good window to shoot it, don't finish it. If people are willing to take on that ownership and acceptance I think it will avoid a fairly large portion of heated debate and shit storms.
The whole "Ya I'm building out here" attitude is awesome, if you've got a beautiful location with features to ride why not share where you are, and it doubles back around so you're visible in the public eye so people are aware of who's doing what and where. The woods are meant to be shared and it's a huge part of why people ride, to get to see new locations and ride different trail. If it wasn't for the builders, the sport wouldn't be expanding in the literal sense of having places to ride, and indirectly and having people near those locations be introduced to viable riding options.
Commercial business are not included in the 'owned by all of us' ideal.
Forestworker, logging and mining industry has no rights to crown land natural resource without a license.. you can't just go anywhere and cut down a tree.. where as joe public can go anywhere he wants on crown land and recreate. So, its not hypocritical at all. The public do have more ownership than commercial logging/mining
Once you start making money off the land, you are no longer part of the general public and land use rights change.
To make money off crown land you need tenure.. which, incidentally, mountain bike movie production companies *should* probably have!
As far as I know, there are only two companies in BC with a mountain bike tenure granted by the government to operate commercially on specific parcels of crown land.
I do think that the forestry industry should make more attempt to integrate into the fabric of the communities in which they operate. We live here to recreate, we shouldn't have to fight to keep our recreation protected!
I take issue with you suggesting that Logging/Mining are BC largest drivers of the economy. BC Bud eclipses what forestry does and tourism is pretty significant with Mountain biking having overtaken golf in the sea to sky corridoor as the leading summer tourism driver.. so, mountain bikers are coming for the logging industry.. time you started playing nice!
This land is my land, this land is your land, lets all just ride and share our girlfriends and drink beer and smoke dope:-) hahaha, just to stir the bees nest .... :-)
You totally missed the point.
A clear cut is short term revenue but long term limited shared use. After going through a reforestation program, the nicely planted genetically modified trees are stronger and growing faster than the native vegetation. I know that the statement " there is a lot of science behind forestry" is true... but its not for the benefit of mother nature.
@starcbiker, i'd like to know what "the long term goal needs to be kept in mind" is.
The story was about sharing land for riding:-) So, my long term goal is riding till I'm old.
I think the issue isn't so much that anybody truly believes the PLACE to be theirs, but rather that people get frustrated when they see their HARD WORK disregarded by somebody with no common courtesy or respect.
Happened to me yesterday at the jump spot I've been digging at for almost 7 years... a rider (he's been digging there 2 years) came in and decided that his view of what an existing line should be was more important than what anybody else thought it should be. Apparently he needs bigger jumps because he can do backflips and 360s (like anybody really cares). Meanwhile, most of his riding buddies can't even clean the line as it is... Anyhow, rather than start a new line of larger jumps he started digging on existing jumps without asking others that dig and ride there (and have been much longer). Happens all the time.
People are egotistical and selfish.
We call them poachers...
So it's not part of the BC parks act yet, i was a little worng, sorry guys, but here is the working draft of the mountain bike trails policy for use of CROWN land. Land already owned by developers or companies with Logging rights already in place have say over trails that were built previous to this working draft and after their development or logging rights were approved.
www.mbta.ca/assets/pdfs/BACKGROUNDER.pdf
www.sitesandtrailsbc.ca/documents/mountain-bike-policy.pdf
Living in the south east of England we dont have many areas for riding anyway and the public land is inherently shared with walkers and horse riders who are the people mainly opposed to mountain bikers. Would it not make sense then for them to be happy about trail building as it would cut a completely different line through the land away from bridle paths and footpaths?
As for not wanting other people to ride the trails you build, it's a ridiculous notion. Be proud that what you've created is good enough for others to want to ride it and that your trail will remain and may be improved upon which in turn makes you a better rider, anyone who thinks that we are damaging the countryside let me tell you that moving a few logs and dirt will not make the slightest impact on mother nature who will claim those trails back as quickly as they're built. I'm on my way to Scotland.
Second - take care of nature when you are building trails, do not destroy natural habitat.
Third - trails are for everyone, not for "who built them", well you can take it to war with locals and that is a loosing battle. (they rode and walked those trails for ages and you come build or modify and its yours?)
Fourth - outdoor activities are good and healthy for everyone, unless you take it to extremes, not good for you not good for nature. ( im talking here about building huge - hospital jumps and destroing ridable trails for very few 9' travel bikes).
Fifth - make it safe for everyone, sometimes kids ride those trails, also mind other riders who might not be so extreme and fast.
Six - we are out there foran " experience" in a good, right way, not to demolish, destroy something or pollute.
Seven - People rule! Police are people too, some of them ride these very same trails.
Dont put a corporate price tag on peoples lifes, unique places and adventrues, unite and do what is GOOD for all, fight for it!
Gouvernment and corporate win when people are easy to dismiss and push around, but when it gets to court, corporates start to think, oh its not that easy or cheap, maybe its not that profitable to "come, see and conquer" whatever they like. Or show them that cooperation with public is profitable and good for everyone or less expencive than court wars.
Sadly, we're now investigating trail building techniques to keep motos off. We're using skinnies across gullies, sharp switchbacks, mandatory gaps, etc...
i think peabody said it all really just build your trail so you can't down it on a motobike or at least make it such hard work they won't want to bother
As stated by K-D-M, for the most part our various groups get along just fine, it is the "Cowboys" from all camps that cause the troubles.
Cheers
As far as one photographer sniping another guys stunt, that's a douchebag move that may not be illegal, but the industry ought to find or follow some sort of etiquette. I mean that's kind of like stealing intellectual property, even if the builder left it out in the open. Is there no honor among shooters?
Canadians are so blessed.
Should've closed it out with "'Nuff said."
f*ckng A!!!
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