The commentators were horrible. What made it worse is the semi script they had to read from. Now after seeing the rampage for a few times...Norbs was definitely robbed
Jamie Bestwick commentating = drinking game. Used the same phrases over and over and shed zero "rider perspective" worth a damn. Thanks for the coverage NBC but maybe have a real mountain biker commentate on a mountain bike event and not a retired BMX rider. He was a good rider, and he's decent with X Games stuff... But come on!
I thought it was fine. I mean what do you really expect from a mainstream broadcast? I enjoyed it. Also, for the record, although I can see where you are coming from regarding Bestwick - he is ridiculous on a vert ramp. Much respect.
Yeah was fully thinking it was more a drinking game than what is supposed to be the pinnacle of Big Mountain Riding. The amount of times 'Judges, Big or Utah Fans' amongst others was said was ludicrous. I'm all for taking the sport mainstream but only if its exciting to watch and listen too. It would be like going to a Tool concert only to hear Bieber coming out of the speakers. Rob Warner should be the voice of Mountain Biking...Period!!!
Agreed with chyu the best rampage commentary was when Cam McCaul was injured and commentated in 2010. I thought Bestwick was good at calling the tricks at Joyride but, seemed out of his element here. Richie Schley was better but, miss called a few tricks. I am not for the sport going more mainstream. I don't want MTB in the xgames or more people on the trails cause it has become too popular. The only good thing I see about it going mainstream is that the riders get more money and used bike parts get cheaper.
norbs got robbed. first to say it! after watching that broad cast on saturday, and I watched the full 3 hour online thing when it first happened. I haven't commented on this before but damn, with all three angles and broad cast, each one showed how much the judging sucked more and more....hope that the next one is better (judged). the riding was SICK none the less! entertaining...on mute!
i really think the 3's were insane! but remember they judge on line choice too! i honestly think that the left ridge that Norbs rode [up top] was way easier and mellower than the other ridge...
they had a few months to script thier excuses and try to minimize his amazing run. What about Cam's low score being the ONLY guy to do the gap AND he recieved best trick for the huge flip that followed.
There's a definitely a different perspective watching this than there was being there and watching it as it happened... I feel as though this version captured the majesty and the massive scope of Rampage's location, but failed to communicate the spirit and the rush of the actual riding. To be completely honest, it almost felt like I was watching another fake reality show from NBC. It wasn't Jamie or his fellow commentator, but there was an element of 'overproduction' that I hate to see Rampage adopt.
I did find the POV riding footage incredibly sick and a little stomach-tossing. Thanks for posting this up for us, Pinkbike.
You two must have also missed the part where I said, "This version captured the majesty and the massive scope of Rampage's location, but failed to communicate the spirit and the rush of the actual riding...". I was there. I felt how amazing it was, and they failed to communicate that.
For example: Sal Masakela wasn't even there the day of the finals but they edited him into the post-production video as though he was; they also heavily commentated and voiced over the crowd cheers and failed to communicate to the public the extreme energy and stoke that goes on at Rampage. That's called 'overproduction', fellas. And the fellow doing the NBC voiceover? Guess what? He's the same voice from the Bachelor. So... Yes. 'Another fake reality show' fits because they used the same voice from one of their fake reality shows. But that comes with going mainstream, I suppose.
It's partly an opinion, guys... It also is partly fact. Everyone is allowed to voice theirs, so sarcastic replies (scott-townes) and arguing about "bad wording" (Konad) is really just pointless. I made a statement about how fake watching this felt, and that statement was pretty final... It still is.
it would be nice if NBC invested in the project before it was amazingly filmed. They just bought it and ruined the comentator. They should have used the original voices of Mtn. Biking and added their crappy EmCee's to cut away to comercials.
ambatt- I've been attending since they brought it back but also grew up watching since the first one and I've gotta say the only real way you can really get a feel for the energy the Rampage creates is to actually attend. Even the Rampage movies hardly show the excitement/intensity/epicness when you see it in person... plus it was a mainstream broadcast as just a competition, instead of a "documentary" style so it's expected for them to pull stuff like having an announcer from the Bachelor... haha. I guess what I'm trying to say is it's impossible for them to show an audience, where a good part probably have never mtb before, all the underlying things that goes on down there. Remember also that this TV series is a very new project for Red Bull and the first time ever this has been broadcasted to such a large audience so maybe if the ratings were good enough, they will do a better job next year... although that's probably very wishful thinking... haha.
Also it's just the internet. Sarcasm is going to happen because without sarcasm there would be no internet or facebook! That's a scary fact!
Love to see the free ride exposure butt... Love even more that Sal acting as though he was there during event when he was obviously there a few days before. And as jsawatzky said above, love announcer saying: Norbraten over rotates to brake check (WTF).
Dear nerds, I would like to save this as I normally would to Vimeo or Youtube so that I can watch it full-size on Apple TV. How would you go about doing this with this video player?
There's lots wrong with this broadcast, but in being able to watch it a few times again, it just reaffirms my love for mountain biking....
my top 3: Norbs Sorge Cam McCaul
Like in any subjective sport, it's always tough going first cause everyone is supposed to measure up, and typically you get a low(ish) scorebut still....great run Kyle. Maybe in two years you'll draw a better starting number and have the benefit of that...
Wow, this is what happens when a big company broadcasts bike events. What a boost in image quality and camera angles. I'm completely stoked. Thanks NBC!!!
I'm just wondering, what would they show us on RB rampage movie? I mean that we have already seen so much different footages from this year rampage that it is almost impossible to show something more...
The commentators should be replaced with Rob Warner..!!! It would be so much better.. Riders put in so much level and effort into the competition, and commentators like that don't give them the attention deserved..
In Red Bull's Supernatural snowboard competition put on by Travis Rice, all the riders were riding with Contour camera's linked to a computer someplace because they were showing cam shots immediately afterwards, so although not "real-time" they're already processing the view's VERY quickly for us to see. Much like here. Only a matter of time! If there is one thing positive about the Red Bull broadcasts, they do cover all the camera angles amazingly well.
"the speed is building all the time" wish he would not say that as much yes the speed build but not all the time sometimes they are slowing down..... ass hole commentator
The Status isn't that far off from the Demo in terms of performance. Word is Martin S and The Claw choose the Status because of the higher bb height.
I was just shocked cause if I was hurling myself down cliffs I'd prob prefer Saints over the XT Trails but this looks good for the performance of XT Trail brakes
and what would your average american (or canadian or south african or .... you get the picture) do with a full-on DH bike? Probably spend 5 minutes in a parking lot and pronounce it crap, or suffer for coolness' sake.
Some of these commentators, I tell ya
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Don't you ever hack a hacker, you hack. That's worse than trying to snake a snaker.
But comparing Rampage to this
it almost felt like I was watching another fake reality show from NBC
Where is the eyeroll?
Ok I do get the point ambatt, but you can't deny that was simply bad choice of wording!
For example: Sal Masakela wasn't even there the day of the finals but they edited him into the post-production video as though he was; they also heavily commentated and voiced over the crowd cheers and failed to communicate to the public the extreme energy and stoke that goes on at Rampage. That's called 'overproduction', fellas. And the fellow doing the NBC voiceover? Guess what? He's the same voice from the Bachelor. So... Yes. 'Another fake reality show' fits because they used the same voice from one of their fake reality shows. But that comes with going mainstream, I suppose.
It's partly an opinion, guys... It also is partly fact. Everyone is allowed to voice theirs, so sarcastic replies (scott-townes) and arguing about "bad wording" (Konad) is really just pointless. I made a statement about how fake watching this felt, and that statement was pretty final... It still is.
Oh, and Konad - the eyeroll was at the top.
Also it's just the internet. Sarcasm is going to happen because without sarcasm there would be no internet or facebook! That's a scary fact!
my top 3:
Norbs
Sorge
Cam McCaul
Like in any subjective sport, it's always tough going first cause everyone is supposed to measure up, and typically you get a low(ish) scorebut still....great run Kyle. Maybe in two years you'll draw a better starting number and have the benefit of that...
Jamie said nothing but the same stuff over and over. FAIL