I think that would balance it out perfectly!
This model for the AM crowed and then a 160-180mm model with a 20mm option would really fit the bill for most riders!
However I would like to see it possible in one application.
The 36 or the durolux can be lowered from 180 down to 100mm keeping its burly structure with 20mm axel!
This fork is perfect for, as they state, people who climb and earn their downs. However for the lift crowd looking for a long travel SC for a mini DH or Free Ride (its not a dirty term to me) build, this comes up a little short. I would deffinately give this fork a go on a trail bike but I'll stick with a 36 180 or Totem for lift riding.
remember that there is a 34 mm stanchion too. this clearly is not a fork built for heavy duty freeride disciplines and as an all mountain fork it really shines because thats what its designed as. manitou however always seems to over build their stuff and the qr15 hexlock rivals the stiffness of any other axle on the market. I know personally that I will be running a mattock on my fr bike and until they come out with something truely designed for freeride, this will do and it will do damn good
Count me in for wishing there were more stout 180mm forks out there. Right now there is just the Fox 36 and the Suntour, the Totem is just too heavy) much for all-around riding. More 5.5 pound or under 180mm forks please! I want to be able to occasionally race DH and ride DH courses but I will never need a full-on DH bike!
The number of 180mm forks and trail bikes (like the Uzzi) on the market is bordering on extinction. It has me worried I must admit, I feel these are the best setups for me.
as a freerider I agree completely. But my opinion is that since manitou is known to have a super strong axle system, overly built lowers and crown setup and now with the dorado air too, the mattock will get the job done with the 170 that it has. i run a marzocchi 66 right now and yeah it is a bit heavy but to have a 180mm fork usually means thats the sacrafice your going to need to make. the mattock however seems like the right balance
i am sure a bigger fork will follow.
the best thing right now is that mannitou is back.
i am looking forward for this fork and will give it a try as soon as it is available.
It will take it!
The fork has 160-170mm options so, for most people it will rip the bike parks and your local DH trails with authority!
The 15mm is actually really stiff from most have to say!
My only gripe is that most dont own a 15mm axel so we have to purchase extra parts to get into a new fork!
Billy, that video was superb dude!
That guy was ripping it and yes that video was awesome FRing!
Remember the camera is deceiving, those trials were most likely super steep and very rocky but did you notice the speed he was thrashing those sections at!
Tons of skill!
RideOn!
agreed. 170 is what a lot of dudes ran at rampage actually. enduro forks are made to get beat up on. this thing has the strength where it needs it and the dorado air will replicate the amazing feel of the dorado in the jumps, drops and sketchy stuff. any skeptics are just overlooking the facts
off the top of my head messere and pilgrim. i also know garret robertson and paul genovese use 170 lyriks on their freeride bikes. lets be real here you think your gonna notice 10mm difference?
This was the straw that broke the camel's back. I registered an account just to like this and share my surprise. I was really hoping they would have kept the whole track in, but c'est la vie.
This fork has the coolest name for forks for sure! All the features look spectacular and I love that its unique to its own. This should be very fun, with high and low speed compression in correlation with the hydraulic bottom out it should be amazing.
However it looked as if he bottomed out the fork off the rock drop at 4:20! But Im very sure that can be tuned to compensate!
My one gripe is on a fork with 160-17-mm travel, having a 20mm axel option would be perfect. Not that 15 isn't strong but; Most people buying this fork will have to take in consideration to the price of the fork a new hub and maybe wheel set as well. However, Im very sure those who want it will purchase the fork with out a second notion!
Fantastic video and beautiful overview of the fork. it would have been cool to end with some more shots of Eric too! hahhhahah RideOn!
Man if you don't bottom out your suspension ever while riding, it is either not built well enough for it, causing you to have to run too much pressure, or it is improperly set up.
True story. I like to feel one or two VERY subtle bottoms per riding trip just so I know my fork is set up right and I'm using all the travel on big hits, I ease in the high speed untill I achieve that.
the name refers to a tool for digging. Sounds cool, but taking a digger is what happens when your Travis breaks. I'd prefer a name that suggested a smooth floating ride, like nimbus, stratos, or zephyr
The are showcasing the HBO system, he bottoms out the fork but it doesn't feel harsh break his wrists or ping him off the bike. The HBO system provides a bottomless feel.
Yes, but the Durolux is fantastic at a lower price!
So, it would be a winner!
It rides smooth and handles the big stuff without a flinch!
However the Mattoc too has a low tag price with some interesting technology!
At the very least I love the name, mattock is my weapon of choice next to my saw for building, I don't even bring a shovel or a rake, just use the mattock. Cool, stoked to see Manitou back in the game, looks good, and for a fraction the price the Dorado, I hope it lasts and can take a beating!!
This is ridiculous; if any other, larger company [like Fox or Spesh or Trek] had a video posted on PB that was essentially an advert, half the comments on here would be like: "Ar it's just marketing bullshit hype! Don't listen to the hype Bra! 26 til I die!" As it is, half the comments on here are like: "Ar yer, love the name!" How ironic.
Sorry for the 20 mm users and followers, but 15 mm will be the new standard, its not what is best it is what is new and can be sold more expensive!. Nice AM fork!
the only thing I can think of is after the graphic at the end is how many sticker sheets you will get if you buy the fork (joke at the Manitou circus's expense)
I've had two warranties in two months and I'm about to call again on my tower pro. I hope this fork has better luck because when it's fresh it's by far one of the smoothest actuating forks I've ever owned.
they really designed this as a all mountain fork. the tower pro is a killer xc and trail fork but beefing it up like they did here was definetly a good call by manitou
Sounds like a slightly stiffer, burlier Revelation.. And with the Manitou feel... Damn. I need more money. I love my Rev.. But I'd get a 44 or this if I could..
I'm beginning to believe that this depends on the fork, I had a fox talas 36 160mm fork with 20mm axle now I have a xfusion slant with 34mm stancions 15mm bolt through and 160mm travel (same axle to crown). The xfusion is 300+ grams lighter and a f*cking shitload (yes that is a standardised unit of measure) stiffer than the fox!!! And for less than half the price!! However comparing the two forks the xfusion has a burlier brace and burlier dropouts than the fox, put the material where it counts and it seems doesn't matter what axle size (15/20mm) you run.
Hexlock really does make a difference with torsional stiffness. The 15mm axle has a bigger 20mm size hex shape on one end. The fork cant slip/flex around the axle like conventional round types.
A simple image search of "mattock" and "pulaski" and you'll see that Manitou is correct.....except for their spelling of course. Kind of a huge fail there. "Mattoc" is apparently a German band though.
Cutter mattocks have a small axe opposite the larger adze head, which is what is in the video. A pulaski is primarily an axe, with a smaller adze head on the back.
I know companies seem to change spelling of words at will to suit their logos, graphics, etc all the time. OK, maybe not a fail if they sell a lot of product, but wouldn't call it winning either.
If anyone looking into the mattock for freeride is still questioning it heres a good edit with it
All the features look spectacular and I love that its unique to its own.
This should be very fun, with high and low speed compression in correlation with the hydraulic bottom out it should be amazing.
However it looked as if he bottomed out the fork off the rock drop at 4:20! But Im very sure that can be tuned to compensate!
My one gripe is on a fork with 160-17-mm travel, having a 20mm axel option would be perfect.
Not that 15 isn't strong but;
Most people buying this fork will have to take in consideration to the price of the fork a new hub and maybe wheel set as well.
However, Im very sure those who want it will purchase the fork with out a second notion!
Fantastic video and beautiful overview of the fork. it would have been cool to end with some more shots of Eric too! hahhhahah
RideOn!
As far as the spelling goes, "Mattoc" makes for a more symmetrical logo. Can't see how that's "a huge fail".
As far as the spelling goes, "Mattoc" makes for a more symmetrical logo. Can't see how that's "a huge fail".
How long does it take to realize how gay your backwards arch is?
Manipoo...
Sincerely EVERYBODY