6 New DH Forks For 2018 - Video

Apr 21, 2018
by Pinkbike Staff  

There's a lot of brand new bike products at Sea Otter, what better way to show them to you all than round them up in to one group? Perfect! We managed to find all the brand new DH forks for 2018 that were on show and here they are.


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150 Comments
  • 72 2
 MRP have created a new category of fork, downduro is official
  • 15 0
 Pretty cool insight that they can provide 15mm additional travel without actually changing a bike's geometry (compared to single crown fork).
  • 14 2
 The Fox '20 product is about to launch any day now, and I suspect we'll see a 36 dual crown.
  • 3 0
 @nuttypoolog: That would be the hype
  • 6 0
 As the owner of a Nicolai G16, I'm totally interested. Does it have a twin tube damper like the Ribbon?
  • 8 8
 I must say this bit about geometry is fkng interesting. Now I have to swallow the bit about the weight penalty for that...
  • 16 0
 AKA freeride
  • 14 0
 @MTB-Colada: Static geo doesn't change, but at bottom out you're gonna end up with a steeper head angle.
  • 6 0
 Freeride
  • 7 0
 They had me at pucks instead of tokens. XD
  • 2 0
 @IllestT: yup!
  • 1 2
 @MTB-Colada: that's not really a new thing most dual crowns have a shorter axle to crown for the amount of travel they have
  • 3 0
 Mrp is killing it!
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: weight penalty for dh/park set up..?
  • 3 1
 @nfontanella: Yeah, but I do think it is kind of an issue. Ideally, bikes have been designed so that when bottomed out (which typically is under demanding conditions), the bike is still controllable. So that relates to a certain head angle when the forks are bottomed out. Head angle when the fork is fully extended doesn't really matter that much. The only reason I can think of to do this is the rider thinks he/she wants more travel but the fork is already at max allowable axle to crown length and believes he/she can live with the steeper angle when bottomed out. Fair enough the head angle doesn't change much when the rear end bottoms out too but well, sometimes you don't have these perfect landings.

So yeah, there still are loads of reasons to appreciate this fork (and you can always slide the stanchions down in the crows) but I wouldn't do it for more travel at the same axle to crown length.
  • 2 2
 @vinay: so you wouldn't do this because the handling characteristics while bottomed out would be suboptimal? Do you ride completely bottomed out much? Do you really think one degree head angle change for that 100th of a second is sufficient to make a difference?
Sorry man. Your argument is kind of silly.
  • 1 0
 @taletotell: If the bottom out is due to a trail obstacle, it is typically short and doesn't matter much. Especially as the angle doesn't change dramatically with respect to the velocity. On hard landings it is different. The fork stays down for longer and yes I do think too steep there should be avoided. Does one degree matter that much? I don't know to be honest. In reviews they get all excited about progressive geometry and whatnot so yeah, I thought it does matter indeed.
  • 1 0
 @vinay: speed up your rebound a bit. You may find your bike stacks less.
  • 1 0
 @IllestT: On a MOJO G16 here. A dual crown 170-180mm travel with reduced offset 29er fork will likely be the end of my DH bike. I guess I could swap to 650b wheels too. @NoahColorado We want the reduced offset 29er forks!
  • 51 1
 The ______ with the _____ increases the ____ . The _____dampening is much improved this year. This is multiplied by my camo shorts, my tats, and my mirror sunglasses.
  • 12 0
 X-Fusion again seems to be the only no-nonsense option this year (well at least minimum nonsense).
  • 3 2
 @magiko9:
no-nonsense? xfusion guy said pretty much the same as others
  • 3 0
 @magiko9: The x fusion presenter was the only guy who said "hey man I got the good stuff out here behind the bus." Before the presentation. I just want to ask the camera man if he got touched by the bad man.
  • 1 0
 @Asmodai: Nope. It is not about the talk. I am saying it is the no-nonsense option. Let me clarify:

He said the fork is coil sprung and other than the RC damper it is exactly the same as last 2-3 years. I heard "we had a good one and not much has changed so keep your damn RV1" Smile
  • 1 0
 @magiko9: how thats different from other manufacturers?
  • 29 0
 ...and the real different ones, are not there: Formula.
  • 17 0
 BOS too...
  • 1 0
 DVO Onyx...
  • 22 2
 And the death of marzocchi is more or less a fact. Its just a rebranded fox product now. Positive is that the price is ok. But even so it doesnt feel right. Aspecially for me that is a true zocchi fan/user ever since the mid 90's. Witch means my 380ti is the last zocchi i will ever buy...... A surtain sadness overwelms me at this thought.
  • 3 0
 Man I bought three 380Ti's from clearance for the price of one F40. That was the only benefit of Fox buying Marzo.
  • 5 5
 Commercial bullshit, the illusion of choice
  • 3 1
 @RedBurn:
illusion of choice? its the opposite, now you can pick fox product for cheap or buy full fox fork
  • 4 3
 @Asmodai: but i dont want a fux product. I want a quality product that will not look like its going to die after two good seasons.
  • 2 1
 @mayhemsport: so pick something else if you think thats the case with fox, i dont see how thats a problem
  • 4 1
 Grip is Marzo technology. So rebranded Fox is incorrect. Your whole comment is incorrect. More like marzo tech in Fox. Lack of knowledge and tech history.
  • 2 5
 @pinkdog321: It is not the same old marzocchi tech. That works for years and years. Positive is i see fox finally are anodizing their internals. F...g lack of knowledge and history. I have had somewhere between 12-15 zocchi forks. Go .... yourself.
  • 2 0
 I can confirm the grip damper tech was taken from marz and refined. The grip 1 is closest to the 380cr, the grip 2 is a fair amount different esspecially on rebound, but you better believe it started with marz plushness. You are welcome to look at the marzocchi 380 tech forum here where i did 3 years of test and tuning. The 380c2r2 was never as good as the c.f. for plushness. The chassis is killer but the setup especially my2014 was shit, quality control was shit, customer service was shit. Im excited for the new marz and fox. F....or get your baseless opinion. I post content you posted nonsense.
  • 1 0
 @RedBurn: Rockshox and Fox in 27.5 and 29, MRP same, SR, etc. So what are you bitching about? Please name one non-'commercial' DH fork out there worth a damn. A fork with zero advertising and zero 'bullshit' in your terms? The crowd is eager for your response
  • 1 0
 @mayhemsport:
they dont see to be that good if you had to buy so many
maybe fox was better option all this time
  • 1 0
 @Asmodai: Have been downhill biking for 22 years now. So i have had a few. Several at the same time. On different bikes. People base their experience on local service witch obviously was laking. We had fantastic local service from the distributor. For either tuning or service. Nothing but good experience. All rs and fox has never come close. Had the last version of the fox 40 float. Total crap fork.
  • 1 0
 @mayhemsport: and my experience is the opposite
  • 1 0
 @Asmodai: Other than the CTD series of Fox 34's, nothing but great things to say about the Fox forks i have. I had a few Marzocchi's back in the day and they were also good. @mayhemsport , 'crap fork' ....is that why so many races have been won on them and so many people ride them without issues around the globe?
  • 1 1
 @bman33: What do you think the lifespan of a pro riders fork is? And do you really think they only have one? Come on... I ride in very wet weather conditions. And zocchi has allways been what has lasted the longest before needing service. But i guess a products is only as good as its local support is.
  • 1 0
 @mayhemsport: "local support'. So you can service your fork? So unless each company has a service location in your neighborhood, you say they are crap?
A pros fork is rebuilt often. However, many amateur rider/racers I know have zero issues with Fox & Rockshox after years of riding. To say they are 'crap' is laughable
  • 15 1
 so....5 New DH forks & 1 New Enduro Fork
  • 10 3
 Bummed not to see any carryover from the Marz 380 fork, from before fox bought them. They had some really cool stuff going and it was/is an amazing fork. Sure would have been nice to still have a different option available rather than what's basically a rebranded fox fork.
  • 9 1
 Marzo became 'cheaper Fox' thanks to that?
  • 2 0
 @djzatorze: Yeah I was looking forward for new Marzocchi but actually they look like redesign Fox 40 with different dials. Still I would give it a go but clearly you can see influence. From the other side I like the way they advertise new Fox 40 , not much talking , not much change in it. Simply, its just best fork out there so why bother Smile
  • 3 5
 Well cthorpe I have Fox 32 RL and trying to get a coil spring for it. Once I get it I’ll basically have a 2006 marzocchi, just better.
  • 2 0
 @djzatorze: Marzo was almost always cheaper and imo better. Now it is just cheaper.
  • 3 0
 The whole Idea of a 4 way adjustable Cartridge is carried over from the 380 Fork,just have a look at the old DBC Cartrifge from Marzocchi and compare it to the new Grip2 Cart.,the only difference is the one is semi open the other fully closed afaik
  • 3 6
 @Upstep: Fox taking ideas from Marzocchi? Don’t think so...
  • 1 0
 @WAKIdesigns: They will work better and you save some weight but they don't last long ! Smile
  • 2 3
 @allbiker: no worries I’m not in the mood to piss on sentiments today.
  • 2 0
 @WAKIdesigns: Ooooh , get outside to the sun - catch some vitamin D and be in better mood. Less depress ! Give your computer good rest. Big Grin
  • 2 4
 @allbiker: thank you but no.
  • 1 0
 I'm sure you could fit a Grip2 damper into the Marz 58.. With the Z1, pretty sure it's got the 36 Ebike upper which makes it 250g heavier than a Factory 36.
  • 2 0
 @Upstep: you are 100% correct. The rebound side looks different to me though
  • 11 2
 I am so sick of the Boxxer... I love my X-Fusion RV1!
  • 5 0
 Does the new Boxxer also come in black, or just the red? That red doesn't fit well with a lot of bikes...
  • 8 3
 @MTB-Colada: if it came in Titanium-ish or stainless steel-ish it would be the sexiest thing out there.
  • 1 0
 I agree, however the me chassis looks good and them crowns are nice!, and finally they have put a cable guide on the boxxer @MTB-Colada:
  • 1 0
 I loved my Metric HLR- now switched to a Vengeance HLR Coil... 200€ new and butter smooth- you cant really go wrong with this

The HLR damper is on par with the competition...the Roughcut is even better
  • 1 0
 Gotta agree, my rv1 was tops.
  • 5 0
 It never occurred to me you can run more travel with a dual crown without altering the geo. Here I was thinking people like Graves (a couple seasons back) were willing to suffer on the climbs with a way slack bike just to have a dual crown.

. . .the more you now . . .
  • 8 0
 Most shocking article in 2018!
  • 7 0
 I bet they had to travel a lot while making this list.
  • 14 0
 Spring is in the air!
  • 2 4
 Some of them are forking sexy looking
  • 4 5
 If I was a female that MRP would probably cause some dampening in my downtube area.
  • 1 0
 I know I'm just bouncing up and down in excitement
  • 6 0
 The "niche" between enduro and dh? seriously???

That said... kinda neat. 5.5 lbs. But why not just go 200mm? This is like the boost of forks.
  • 7 1
 If you have a 160mm travel bike, and wanna go hit the bike park laps with the boys, going up only 20mm in travel is much safer and smarter to do than going up a whole 40mm
  • 6 0
 Either they're justifying the use of their existing Ribbon lowers, pretending there's a need for short-travel, 15x110mm DH to justify not spending the $ to make new, real, 20mm, w/ 200mm, DH lowers, OR, they're onto something and there's about to be a HUGE demand for dual-crown enduro forks.
  • 2 0
 @nuttypoolog: Well, with the media's recent hard on for short travel bikes as of late (not that I have problem with them, just noticing), I suppose that could be the next thing. In that context, it sorta makes sense Wink
  • 2 0
 @treymotleyDH: Fair point :thumbsup:
  • 4 0
 @treymotleyDH: I would expect a market for this. If you buy a Nomad, Supreme SX, Canyon Torque or Capra, why not get one of these forks for the bike park days?
  • 1 0
 @jerryhazard:

Its hard to make something better on nowadays bikes. So you have to make something up to sell your stuff. There are alot of smart people thinking everyday how to make money out of the customer Smile
  • 2 3
 I changed my Lyrik from 160 o 180 To check how it rides. I had this memory of drooling at a white Nomad with 180 Vanilla that I saw like 5 years ago. I wanted a bit of that and finally had a chance to get my own one. I was so pumped to point it down a dh track only to find that bike turned into a cow. But he is talking about 15mm reduction in axle to crown being converted into fork travel. Anyhoo, 180 rod for Lyrik anyone?
  • 2 1
 @nuttypoolog: just seems pointless you either ride an Enduro or you ride a dh, why blur the lines?
  • 1 0
 @Madmanspencer: free ride
  • 2 1
 @Madmanspencer: enduro was born as a blured line. Am with dh elements. The whole thing is a spectrum.
  • 1 0
 @Madmanspencer: i ride some really gnarly DH tracks that drop you a good XC ride away from
the up lift. I have been running full range cassettes and 32 tooth chainrings for 20 years now.
  • 1 0
 @taletotell: don't discuss with a madman!
  • 6 0
 I assume you need to worry about wheel-downtube clearance if the MRP has 15mm more travel with the same a-c.
  • 2 0
 lower crown can be flatter, could be where they find that extra 15mm. Fox 40 (26) 200mm and Fox 36 180mm(26) axle to crown are 570mm and 565mm respectively !
  • 4 0
 @justincs: *downtube* ... that thing your wheel could hit before your fork stops moving? You must not be old enough to remember the ProFlex/Girvin days.
  • 1 3
 @nuttypoolog: huh, I had a Manitou Nixon elite with “tyre clearance upgrade installes sticker”. How surprised I’ve been after I heard wrrrrt at every bottom out with 2.5” Minion. I can imagine without it the fork was making wrrr and you never heard rrrrt since your head hitting the ground was next thing you heard.
  • 1 0
 @nuttypoolog: I have up-forked four of my bikes over the last 8 years and so far no issues, mind you the smooth flat terrain here in the west coast could be the culprit!
  • 2 0
 So anything with less than 15mm of clearance may be at risk... Someone go check normal clearance on a Nomad or something. I bet MRP is tested this and found it's OK.
  • 3 0
 I am pumped on the new fox, pumped on the new marz, pumped on the price point for a proven reliable chassis.

If you have worked inside the dampers of the marzocchi cr and c2r2 and the 40 fit4 dampers its pretty obvious that fox is managing the acquisition of Marz well, not just trashing the Marz tech and name with a patent dump. Evaluating and refining the Marz dampers and not being too proud to dump fit4!!!

Marz never recovered from their decline in 06-09 and the rollout of the 380 and 350 had subpar setup. Mostly because the awesome folks at DVO had left after all the heavy lifting.

The dbc damper was never supposed to be run with a coil according to a reliable source.

So I don't know what the bitching is about. Marz folded and fox brings them back with quality control and new product development and people complain. What would you prefer? If someone bought them to use their branding on Wal-Mart bikes?

The internet experts are insufferable.
  • 1 0
 PB commentors lover to cry/whine about everything. They all want WC cutting edge tech at Deore level prices, but want to sell them at 90% value two years after riding it.
  • 2 0
 Goddammit it just doesn't feel MZ anymore
  • 7 2
 Guy with fusion wearing gloves... he's afraid that fork is going to blow on him right there! Hehe Wink
  • 6 3
 Doesn't want his fingerprints on it in case someone actually rides it someday. Forensic Liability...
  • 13 1
 hes the actual mechanic working on the forks, rather than a market man
  • 7 0
 @krazieghost: stop being reasonable
  • 5 0
 The marzocchi rep tried really hard not to say fox's evol... mpla mpla and fox cardridge mpla mpla ...
  • 2 0
 Well, OK. If you want a cheaper Fox fork, buy a Marzocchi and put some Fox stickers on it.
If you want an X-Fusion, it is because you are probably someone original.
If you want an MRP, you are probably following the right way.
The new RS Boxxer kills, for sure.
And probably you can have a cheaper Boxxer if you buy a SR Suntour.
I know: Suntour sucks because you do not dare to put that on your bike, but they forks are great and AFFORDABLE.
  • 1 0
 I like seeing Marzocchi's coming back, But if I was to ride that 58 I'd have to start a pole as to when that dangling rebound knob would get a rock garden assisted extraction. Having said that, I think Fox has only gotten better since aquiring Marzocchi's as their lab rats.
  • 1 0
 The rebound knob on my '07 888s lasted one run before never being seen again so it'll be nothing unusual to Marzocchi!
  • 1 0
 you mean Fox
  • 5 0
 no DVO no care!!
  • 2 0
 All these new forks and high tech engineering but I'm still running my 2013 fox 40. The thing is still just as plush and responsive since day 1 Big Grin
  • 6 4
 Serious question tho... why the hell haven’t all dual crowns gone to a tapered steertube??? Sr suntour is the only one !
  • 3 0
 DVO Emerald always has been.
  • 25 0
 Stiffness isn't an issue with a dual crown and an 1 1/8 steerer tube allows much more room for reach and head angle adjustments via different headset cups. If you want to use a tapered headset, you can always use a different crown race so there are minimal compatibility issues. I for one appreciate the options!
  • 6 0
 A dual crown steerer is primarily loaded in shear, while a single crown is mostly dealing with bending forces.
  • 5 0
 The steerer tube deals with minimal forces, just setting the initial amount of preload on the headset, and then the crown bolts are tightened down to the stanchions. After that it is useless, really. Intend’s downhill fork doesn’t even have a solid steerer, to cut down on weight
  • 1 0
 @e-loop: ^^ This.
  • 3 0
 @e-loop: interesting guys thanks for the info haha i never actually thought about it like that!
  • 1 0
 @qman11: No problem!
  • 3 0
 No more 26” boxxers ....
  • 1 0
 SR Suntour- Right Side R2C2-PCS.................So they're not advertising their best damper because they literally don't even care? Lol.
  • 2 0
 "I'm Mike D and I get respect. Your cash and your jewelry is what I expect."
  • 4 1
 I just can’t take a man with tattoos on his head seriously
  • 2 0
 maybe you're new around here.. that's Duncan Riffle dude!
  • 6 4
 WHAT THE f*ck IS "110 NON BOOST" UGHHHH
  • 14 0
 20mm hubs have been 110mm front spacing for a long time."110 NON BOOST" is regular 20mm spacing. The same that's been around on DH forks for years. You're getting angry at a standard that's been around for years because you didn't happen to know the technical aspects of it.

You should be mad at 20mm boost, because just like the old standard (20x110mm), 20mm boost is also 20x110 spacing just to f*ck your shit up.
  • 2 0
 @j-t-g: So there is no difference between 'standard' and 'boost' in this instance, right (i.e. they are both 20x110mm)?
  • 6 0
 @MTB-Colada: 5mm disc offset.
  • 2 0
 @sethius: Thanks. And the benefits are?
  • 2 0
 @sethius: Plus (as in closer to fork lowers) or minus (as in closer to hub flange)?
  • 4 0
 @MTB-Colada: 28.99% stiffer
  • 2 0
 Propped every comment in this little discussion Smile
  • 2 0
 @MTB-Colada:

Our wallets get lighter.
  • 4 2
 All that and the Dorado is still the best DH fork by miles....
  • 1 5
flag lukeisdumb (Apr 22, 2018 at 6:55) (Below Threshold)
 I'd rather t-bag a bear trap than ride a manitou
  • 4 1
 @LukeBurgie: What a stupid thing to say... You must be a teenager, and must also have not ridden one.
  • 2 1
 @deadmeat25: I've rebuilt enough manitous to know the product is subpar. I've even seen the crown bend on a manitou fork while riding a foam pit. Couple that with abysmal customer service and you have a brand I won't touch.
  • 1 0
 @LukeBurgie: I know Manitou used to have an awful reputation and I unfortunately had the misfortune of owning a 6-way swinger once. But after bending the stanchions on two pairs of boxxers and having multiple issues with build quality particularly machining tolerances, I got a pair of Dorados. After 4 years I haven't been able to kill them! Iv trouble with some oil weeping from the damper side seal, (I just top up the oil level to the correct height when needed) and the axel can be a bit of a pain to torque up. Otherwise I'v hammed them every year from Morzine, Chatel, Champery, Lousã without problem. Iv twisted them multiple times in bad crashes but just re-torque the crowns and axle and you're good to go again. Only done 1 full rebuild (all seals/o-rings). If I had to buy new forks in the morning I'd get another set of Dorados, Iv also Pikes and Mattocs currently and tbh prefer the Mattocs.
  • 1 0
 MRP already has a DH fork. Since they still make the Groove DH Fork.

www.mrpbike.com/groove
  • 1 0
 Dual crown on an enduro bike: didnt specialized already do that years ago. It looked shit and rode like a dog.
  • 1 0
 No one ever mentioned the DVO onyx fork which is a 180 travel dual crown or single crown fork.
  • 1 0
 uuuh.marzochi, uhhh uhhhh uhhhh
  • 1 0
 These are forking awesome!
  • 1 0
 wha..whatt!!! a RAD damper that won a world cup last year?!?!
  • 1 1
 Hope rockshox have managed to make the anodizing stay on that new fork for more than 6 months. ????
  • 1 0
 1:34 This is universal new fork mrp)))))
I loved new Rock Shox boxxer
  • 2 1
 That Marz fork made me sad.
  • 1 0
 Why? It lpoks sick af.
  • 2 2
 @onemanarmy: When I started riding Marz was the cream of the crop and now they are owned by what was once their comp and a lesser product.
  • 3 0
 @robito: I think marz lost that crown in 2006. Its time to let go.

The new marzocchi is going to be killer, get on the boat!
  • 1 0
 @robito: Have you ridden it and compared it to any of their previous forks?
  • 1 0
 @onemanarmy: No. I am sure it's pretty good. Just me living in the past, my mtb heyday, when the industry was different.
  • 1 0
 @robito: I feel you. I still have a hard tail with a Jr.T hanging in my garage.
  • 1 0
 Show me the new Formula and Öhlins shock !!!!!
  • 1 0
 @1:34 The what?
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