It's not only the bikes that get a makeover for World Champs, kit and helmets are given equal treatment too. We've been for a lap of the pits and picked out some of the custom painted lids that'll be blasting their way down the Lenzerheide track on Sunday.
Glad someone else has the same opinion... add in the bulldog, the tribute on top... stunning. Brook's does it for me... but all are awesome. I had to pick my jaw up a few times lol.
Disagree with that ???? Depends who’s helmet it is. That’s what I used to love about racing Karts, saving up and getting a new custom lid. I blew 20% of an entire years budget on one, so worth it.
fern flag theme. I like! Feels like they got good roots in Kiwi land and they are proud of it. Not like we monkeys here in europe or us. All history is plastered with war and genocide and church and bullshit. We'd have to go back to our celtic roots. But thats already covered by the new ultra right wings. It's a mess over here. :-)
I like it too. Everyone has ugly events in their history, it’s just what you choose to focus on and celebrate. The biggest battle ever fought in New Zealand was between indigenous people before Europeans came. I’m not justifying ugly past behavior, but the idea that any particular group of people messed up an otherwise peaceful and tranquil existence around the globe isn’t accurate. There are things in US history I’m ashamed of and others that I’m very proud of. All We can do is try to make decisions that my descendants can be proud of too.
@BiNARYBiKE: well put. Nice to hear a bit of nuance and subtlety regarding one’s home country. No country is innocent, and no one has made no mistakes. Ignoring them makes it way harder to learn from them.
@BiNARYBiKE: The biggest battle fought in NZ was between Maori and European settlers when the European were forcibly taking land, look up the New Zealand wars
@HairyYeti: Thanks. I'm sure the New Zealand Wars were bigger overall and I will defer to a local on the history, but if you google it, the Battle of Hingakaka (between natives before the europeans arrived) is known as the biggest single battle (according to The Oxford companion to New Zealand military history). Anyway, my point is that indigenous people in various lands weren't free from tragic or ugly events prior to colonialism. Again not excusing the behavior of colonials. And side note, New Zealand is top of my list of places to visit someday. From what I can tell, it looks dang near perfection.
@HairyYeti: I think you are both wrong. The most casualties were in the so-called Musket Wars when iwis (tribes) that acquired the musket's first from the Europeans went off on Utu (revenge) inspired rampage's and supposedly killed around 20 000 other Maori in the process. 'Only' around 3-4000 died in the NZ wars and in the pre European wars no one really knows but its hard to kill too many, at one time, in thick bush with clubs and spears.
@45Sox: your point shows how hard it is to make broad historical claims. I said “biggest” battle, which can be measured in multiple ways, not just casualties. And the Musket Wars were a whole series of battles and skirmishes. In any case they prove my point as well. I’m suddenly learning a lot more NZ history than I ever planned!
If only Red Bull can tone down their branding placement a bit to give their riders more room to personalize their helmets. I know there are intricate differences in the details but watching live, it appears that Gee, Gwin, Loic and Brook are all wearing the same helmets.
Does anyone know how to get involved designing these lids? Are they done in-house at each of the helmet manufacturers?As a graphic designer I'd love to work on designing one of these one day... (My website's www.tombunney.com)
Hey man, most painters are small one or two man businesses. Some just paint, others design and paint. I started out as a graphic designer so I do both parts
Resse's helmet is so sick the same for bulldog!! Wyn's helmet is going to look great with his bike that as the same graphics; nice concept to have matching graphics on the helmet and bike. How about using the helmet as a microphone on the next Wyn tv????
@properp: isn't America all about "freedom". Meaning people should have the freedom to stand, or sit, or kneel during the anthem? You think it should be law to stand for the anthem? sounds like something a dictator would enforce.
@arrowheadrush: law and respect are two different things. Yes people have choices but people also need to learn respect when someone has given their life to ensure and protect your freedom. There's millions of ways to support your cause without slapping the rest of us in the face that gave you your ability to choose and freedom.
@properp: respect ideas like freedom and equal rights. It’s the ideas that people died to defend and its these ideas that athletes want to bring awareness too because some people forget. It’s these ideas that should be respected. Flags are just colorful logos for geographic boundaries.
@mtbikeaddict: right, so what's more important? honoring the ideas of freedom and equality for all humans ? or honoring the symbol over all even if it means to a abridge the very values you argue it stands for?
What some people do when the kneel down during the presentation of this symbol before a sporting event is trying to remind the public in these very values. Trying to remind you that all humans should be treated equal independent of race. but some other people think that no one should have the freedom to choose how to honor the idea of freedom and equality and that frankly is BS.
And even if you think the symbol is more important than the idea, how is kneeling down in front of it disrespectful? you are supposed to kneel down in front of the queen of england, your are supposed to kneel down infront of the cross in the catholic church... kneeling down in general is something to show the uttermost respect.
@michibretz: My, my... a little triggered, aren't we? I'm not even gonna pretend to get into this mess. All I said was that the flag is not valueless. Nothing more.
The question is - are these athletes at the World Championships primarily to represent their countries, or are they there primarily to compete as individuals? Personally, I lean more toward them competing as individuals first, who are representing their countries second.
@jbravo: For sure. Individual first, country second. Just my opinion regarding color scheme, each to his own. Gotta love all the custom stuff to gaze regardless!
I think the bike/helmet combo is awesome, but I kinda agree it was an odd choice for world's. Still, when most of the riders have red/white/blue (in some combination) bikes it's a nice change
@Broth-Ratchurch: You could always start with the little flag you have next to your name. I mean, if you wanted to be consistent and all. Or you could just do what people like you do and complain about this country while enjoying all it’s benefits, and never have the courage to take your own advice and go find the greener pastures you think exist. But don’t worry, either way you still have a First Ammendment and Freedom of Speech, even if used against the country that provides it.
@dtm1: genuine question here, not trying to aggravate. Imagine this will get downvoted to oblivion, but here goes.
Is it really that bad to think one’s own country could be better? My country is generally looked upon with somewhat favourable opinions globally, but I can’t imagine thinking we were immune to or undeserving of criticism. While differing on politics of the day is expected, I can’t see how believeing one’s own country can be better than it currently is could be viewed as being against that country. The most patriotic thing I can imagine would be to fight and claw to be better, not to settle for what we have, but strive for more. We see this in a very visceral sense with some of the middle eastern uprising of a few years ago, or for that matter the tea party and occupy Wall Street groups in your own country (opposite ends of a spectrum many would argue, but rooted in the same establishment frustration. Was the shame implied in the OP’s comment the offending aspect? As a person who has studied social norms, I am intrigued by this. Sorry for rambling. I might have hit that koala bong that other dude posted about...
@VwHarman: no it's not. Anyways I don't see french people complaining about loic s bike (being gold/silver instead of blue white red), because they don't have this stupid mentality "my country's colors are the best and if you're not waving the flag you're a traitor". Another point isn't that the colors that symbolize one country are not mandatorily the ones on the flag. An Italian could have a blue bike and it would be official national colors.
The only thing that should be discussed in here is how mondraker didn't make a proper custom bike for brook and Laurie although they are some of the best riders out there. It's embarrassing for mondraker
We'd have to go back to our celtic roots. But thats already covered by the new ultra right wings. It's a mess over here. :-)
Flags are just colorful logos for geographic boundaries.
What some people do when the kneel down during the presentation of this symbol before a sporting event is trying to remind the public in these very values. Trying to remind you that all humans should be treated equal independent of race.
but some other people think that no one should have the freedom to choose how to honor the idea of freedom and equality and that frankly is BS.
And even if you think the symbol is more important than the idea, how is kneeling down in front of it disrespectful? you are supposed to kneel down in front of the queen of england, your are supposed to kneel down infront of the cross in the catholic church... kneeling down in general is something to show the uttermost respect.
I am just curious why some folks get upset if some practises the very right this symbol stands for?
I'll see myself out.
Maybe the second Scot to win a world champs
I especially like the ones without the ‘mark of the beast’ or red bulls on them
Who is on Brook Macdonald's lid?
*Most other years too, but that's another topic.
Is it really that bad to think one’s own country could be better? My country is generally looked upon with somewhat favourable opinions globally, but I can’t imagine thinking we were immune to or undeserving of criticism. While differing on politics of the day is expected, I can’t see how believeing one’s own country can be better than it currently is could be viewed as being against that country. The most patriotic thing I can imagine would be to fight and claw to be better, not to settle for what we have, but strive for more. We see this in a very visceral sense with some of the middle eastern uprising of a few years ago, or for that matter the tea party and occupy Wall Street groups in your own country (opposite ends of a spectrum many would argue, but rooted in the same establishment frustration. Was the shame implied in the OP’s comment the offending aspect? As a person who has studied social norms, I am intrigued by this. Sorry for rambling. I might have hit that koala bong that other dude posted about...
The only thing that should be discussed in here is how mondraker didn't make a proper custom bike for brook and Laurie although they are some of the best riders out there. It's embarrassing for mondraker