I had a 7 spd (modded from 9 spd cassette) set up working perfectly with a x7 hifter and zee derailleur with no shims. I upgraded to a saint shifter (9 spd) yesterday and now I can't get it to work. Is the spacing different from sram 9spd and shimano 9 spd cassettes or something? Do I need to shim the cable? any one else running this I would appreciate the input . . .
I had a 7 spd (modded from 9 spd cassette) set up working perfectly with a x7 hifter and zee derailleur with no shims. I upgraded to a saint shifter (9 spd) yesterday and now I can't get it to work. Is the spacing different from sram 9spd and shimano 9 spd cassettes or something? Do I need to shim the cable? any one else running this I would appreciate the input . . .
Yes you are correct, the pull ratio is different between Shimano and SRAM. Hence the reason why a SRAM 9 spd shifter works with a Shimano 10 speed derailleur. You will need to go back to SRAM in order for it to work.
Can I just change the cassette spacing to get this to work?
You could try, but I imagine that will take a lot of work. We're talking mm differences (+/-) so I can't really see that being a viable option. Just to clarify, the differences in pull ratio is in the shifters. Shimano is something like 2:1 and SRAM is 1:1. So it's not quite as simple as swapping a cassette or trying to space things differently. Unfortunately it looks like you'll have to go back to your X7 or upgrade to a 10 spd system. Well I guess upgrading to a X9 or X0 would work as well.
Well I will try to tweek the spacing and see what I get but looks like I might be getting that 10 speed going. Sucks cause that saint looks real nice on there.
Decided to go with a SLX for my all mountain build. To be honest I had my doubts about all the reports of people getting this to work without any spacers, but I can successfully report that I paired it with a SRAM X9 shifter without any issues. No spacers were needed.
@craigyboi - I'm not entirely sure what your asking but to take a stab at your question that I think your asking, yes the mod will work with a XT derailleur. It is no different than a Zee or SLX in regards to pull ratio, so you are good.
Regarding the shifter I would go with a SRAM if you are planning on sticking with a 9 speed system. If you want to eventually move to a 10 speed than just save up and wait. I'd say this is more of a bandaid fix for all of us who don't want to dish out the cash for 10 speed.
the basic science means a shimano 10spd mech are extremely close to a sram 9spd mech. so thats the only straight swap component. if you have a sram 9spd x 5 7 9 0 shifter & 9 spd cassette already then you can bang on a saint or zee or any shimano 10spd clutch mech & away you go - straight swap & the ONLY 9spd clutch option i think?? at a later date you could upgrade to 10 spd system by buying a saint shifter or other shimano 10spd shifter & 10spd cassette.
Perhaps this is a silly question, but I can't see it mentioned anywhere... What chains are you guys running for this? Will a 9 speed chain not be too wide to sit within the cages of a 10 speed mech?
Perhaps this is a silly question, but I can't see it mentioned anywhere... What chains are you guys running for this? Will a 9 speed chain not be too wide to sit within the cages of a 10 speed mech?
Normal 9 speed chain works just find and so does an 8 speed (I run 8 speed cassette, 8 speed sram x4 shifter with a 10 speed shimano zee 10speed deraileur with a small spacer).