Dear America,
We'd like the word "enduro" back, please. A couple of years ago it was kinda cute watching you call XC pedal-fests enduro races. It was like watching a baby deer take its first hesitant steps, trembling at the knees and struggling like hell, but at least you were trying. But watching you strap on fanny packs, ride short-travel bikes 'round Soquel Demo Forest and assume that, because it wasn't invented by an American, enduro is a new sport, was starting to grate. Sea Otter was the straw that broke the camel's back, though. It was the point when you jumped the proverbial shark and it's time to go our separate ways. Lycra? Really? On this side of the Atlantic that's an instant DQ from any reputable race. It's not "so enduro," it's really f*cking embarrassing and this needs to stop.
There are a few things you ought to understand:1. Enduro is not "new"If you search through the archives of the French website, 1001sentiers.fr there are records of rallye races, where the blueprint for the sport was set from as far back as 1989. Around the time you were listening to MC Hammer and wearing ridiculous, baggy trousers, the French were "
enduroing." In 2003 a very clever man called Fred Glo ran the first ever mountain bike race called an enduro. Half the field showed up on DH bikes. We could go on, but hopefully you get the point.
2. Enduro is a raceAlways has been, always will be. Outside a race we like to do what we call "
mountain biking." It involves pedalling up hills and riding fast down them. You should try it sometime, it's ace. Apparently some American fella thought of it, but you don't seem to talk about it much any more.
Not enduro (sorry, Josh).
3. "Enduro" helmets are full-faceVal D'Allos, where the first ever enduro race was held, is a 1,000m vertical lift network in the steep, unforgiving Alps. Wearing a full-face helmet to race there isn't a fashion statement, but the only sensible thing to do. This is how enduro was born and what the sport originally spread with. Every European cycling federation who officially recognises enduro says, very clearly, that full-face helmets are mandatory equipment. Open-face helmets have only been part of European enduro racing as something to make the transfers more comfortable when you have a long spell in the saddle. So no, your open-face helmet isn't "
enduro-specific." And if you only bought it for riding away from the races, see point 2.
4. Fanny packs?Why, just why?
5. There really are "enduro-specific" products, and some of them are rather usefulTake a look at Mavic's Crossmax wheelset, it's a great example. The narrower, lighter rear wheel was an idea pushed forwards by Fabien Barel and Jerome Clementz, who don't need to worry about destroying a wheel in a weekend. The latter won the Enduro World Series last year, so it clearly works very well for him, offering real advantages for racing because it is just strong enough and the light weight makes the bike easier to pedal. Out in the real world, if you ride hard, a lighter rear wheel isn't a great idea - you're far better off with something more durable as when you are laying down $1,000 on a wheelset you want it to last. Or, if you don't break stuff, get the lighter front wheel to match and make your bike even lighter. This is an enduro-specific product because it was born out of racing, designed for racing. Just writing the "
e" word on the side of something isn't the same thing.
6. Open-face helmets and gogglesSee points 3 and 4.
Very enduro.
7. Enduro has done great things for the bikes we rideOne of the best thing about enduro (
aside from the races being really fun) is that it has pushed manufacturers to create bicycles designed to pedal up the hill and descend aggressively. If you look at the early crop of 160mm trail bikes, for the most part they used similar geometry to 120mm XC-orientated bikes, but with more suspension so they were comfortable (
and, arguably, a bit pointless). Take the most recent crop of 160mm travel bikes, like the Orbea Rallon, the new Santa Cruz Nomad and the YT Capra as a comparison. They are utter monsters, out-descending most DH bikes from just a few years ago, while still being nice places to spend a few hours in the saddle on. Sure, this isn't all down to enduro, but it's been one of the driving factors. The same goes for the components. SRAM are a great example. They understood enduro well before most other companies and produced great components like the XX1 groupset and the new Pike fork, leaving their competitors to play catch-up.
So, like any adult breakup, let's keep this pleasant and simple. Just round up everything you have with the "
e" word written on it, put it a cardboard box and pop it in the post. No stress, no nastiness, no unnecessary unpleasantness. It's not you, it's us. We tried, but it just didn't work. Sorry.
Yours regretfully,
Europe
PS: None of this applies to Mark Weir. You can do whatever the f*ck you want as far as we're concerned, because, well... You're you.
Such a shame so many people here fail to understand the 'tongue in cheek' nature in which it is written. :p
Well done chap
That's what friends are for.
If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the first incarnation of the Specialized Enduro arrived on the scene in 2000. Three years before the article claims some guy named Fred "Invented" the first Enduro Race.
So moral of the story, Specialized invented Enduro and they will probably sure this Fred Glo guy and any other snarky European's who claim otherwise.
'Merica.
'MERICA
"Tongue in Cheek or not, the Euro's certainly seem pretty butt hurt over us American's getting our Enduro on.
If I remember correctly, I'm pretty sure the first incarnation of the Specialized Enduro arrived on the scene in 2000. Three years before the article claims some guy named Fred "Invented" the first Enduro Race.
So moral of the story, Specialized invented Enduro and they will probably sure this Fred Glo guy and any other snarky European's who claim otherwise.
'Merica."
Have you ever wondered why some of your distant blood cousins (yep, us Euros) have a less than rosy view of some of the inhabitants of your federation?
No, if I believe the image portrayed of your country and its citizens, most of you you probably haven't.
See, 'Merica is not a country famed for it's introspection and self analysis outside of its borders. It tends instead to get depicted as a sink for cultural / political / ideological dogmatism where the entire population is tarred with the same brush that painted the necks of all its inhabitants a deeply conservative leather bound bible red.
We all know really that the good ol' US of A is nothing of the sort. We have all met and enjoy the company of countless millions of your countrymen and women who are true and trusted friends.
Yet there are so many voices, and very loud brash voices at that, emanating across the globe via its media from within your borders, that anyone from outside the US would be forgiven for thinking all of you are overly opinionated, loud mouthed bigots utterly incapable, even in the slightest, from ever being able to open your minds beyond its initial "USA! USA! USA!" knee jerk testosterone filled utterances.
And many of the possessors of those voices are here in this thread, unable to see their own reflection that is in the mirror Matt is holding up.
You want to try laughing at the image in the mirror more often some of you. I wet myself when I see the image I see in the mirror marked "British". Hell, Ricky Gervais has made millions holding a mirror up for us to look into.
Love y'all.
P.S. Your accents are silly.
Insults hurt dont they?
Its ok, we'll be friends again tomorrow.
Thankyou. You just made me laugh. As in actually laugh out loud, not this silly new fangled lolling rubbish all the kids are doing these days.
However, seeing as we invented the English language which we have kindly lent you, I think it is fair for me to say your accents are silly.
I mean seriously, we lent you it in good faith and now look at it! You've chopped the end off half our words, mis-spelled the other half, and generally not taken very good care of it. Remind me never to lend America my bike...
And sorry Somismtb, I quite like what you wrote. It amused me. Everyone here (possibly yourself included?) seems to think I was cussing you. Have re-read my comment and am still struggling to understand how they got that impression.
Also I love our women too, but I have (accidentally, honest) seen some dubious websites with short video clips of what Americans seem to imagine British women to be like and I must say you guys are waaaaaaaaaay off the mark.
They are much dirtier than that.
"seeing as we invented the English language"
"I love your accents and your women, Thanks for the language" followed by "Also I love our women too, but I have "seen some dubious websites with short video clips of what Americans seem to imagine British women to be like"
Ill give you a few mins to work it out...
I mean, XC and DH make sense. I still can understand "all-mountain" despite being a bit sketchy (AM is XC with more fork travel but don't tell it).
IMO, AM was introduced so that people felt more comfortable because in many people's mind XC was only =lycra + carbon (sure is, but just a so tiny minor part of it actually).
I think that if you consider the average ride of the average rider on PB, most people actually do XC. Having ridden trails with pro XCer also make me think that the frontier between DH and XC can somehow be blurred because those guys can litterally fly over steep rocky sections. Not so long ago (90s), some XC races parts where actually like some today’s DH tracks.
Of course a DH rig is just gonna blast it way faster but still.
Meanwhile, I still fail to understand what is enduro. And I think this is actually because Enduro is a somehow marketed construction, not an actual riding category contrary to XC or DH.
If you were living close to the mountains, you would understand what enduro (and mtb) is.
Here in Alsace, enduro is known as a sort of mtbracing for at least 6 years...
I spent 5 years in Grenoble and I live in Jura so I guess I know what is a mountain...
Ok, to be fair, as a race format I can get what is enduro.
What I find a bit irritating is that everybody now tries to sell it as if it was the only way of riding. Yeah bragging "I ride Enduro" sounds much cooler than XC I guess....
Now MD Ripper got it right from the beginning, I'm out, discussing this further is pointless whether I'm right or not.
But i think you miss the point is that "enduro racing" (not talking about big events as EWS) is the best way to race :
1 when you're not pro
2 having fun
3 with your friends
That's why lots of people talk and write about it.
And again, i concur that writing "enduro riding" in every video title (to catch more views) is pointless
I did race an Enduro event with a friend and we did not really like the format. I prefer continuous chrono from start to finish and more balanced uphill/downhill stuff, but this is just a personal choice.
Interesting that you mention it as the best way to race with friends though, I did not see it like that.
"That's why lots of people talk and write about it."
^ Well here you made a good point.
"And again, i concur that writing "enduro riding" in every video title (to catch more views) is pointless"
^ Couldn't agree more
youtu.be/om7O0MFkmpw
"enduro is the best way to race"???
I personally think the best way to race is to start at point "A" and see who can get to point "B" fastest. Enduro only times the down bits, meaning the up bits aren't even a race. In my head something that isn't even a race, cannot be "the best way to race" and the other bit is just DH. But slower on smaller bikes
learn to read the whole sentence.
I said it was the best way to race with friends
(and it was just my opinion)
(what i said was also just my opinion)
But in the end, it's all Mountain biking people! Just get out and ride.
Dear America, nobody likes you, sincerely, the Earth and it's inhabitants. Ha.
P.s. you brought all upon yourself.
It's a common geopolitical analogy used to describe the US because of its relative infancy. And it fits in context of the self-deprecating comment that I was replying to since most teenagers aren't secure enough to be able to make fun of themselves or laugh when others make fun of them.
Try reading as "light-heartedly" as you write and tone down the defensiveness (usually the first indicator of some form of guilt, but we won't go there, in interest of keeping things light)
I'm sorry. I'll show myself out...
And i think the former city of Budweis is in todays czech repblik. But your right, the should know how to brew beer, i dont know what was wrong with him
We will happily trade the "E" word for the availability of the YT Capra in North America. Please and thanks.
Put the Balls on the mountain and remove the purse from your spokes! Kill Trail!
www.KillTrail.com
For the Sea To Sky Series this year we've had to dial it back a bit from Gargamel level, but still proper challenging tracks. Heck our weekly Toonie enduro series is more challenging than that Sea Otter enduro.
@MattWragg: Not sure how this is appropriate in an international forum. Maybe it would be funny if we knew and liked each other, but taking a swing at millions of people you don't know? Good lesson for my kids though on how not to behave on the internet or anywhere else.
Pinkebike loves this article because we are all taking the bait, with the exception of @franzzz.
George Orwell wrote a thing or two about how beneficial is to think like that, so keep up the good work champ!
0/10 would not read.
This article was abusrd purest BS.
Otherwise its just a stage race/rally.
This was even before Gary Fisher was born.
But after the Americans had completely bombed down the cities and the Soviets came up with their comunism the germans had other things to do than going out for a ride.
Ah and those Crossmax wheels are waste of money and technology, I admire those guys greatly for being able to win on those narrow things. Mavic MTB products, heh, their feel and styling are synonymous with cheap logo stamped lycra and fanny packs. Mavic just cannot shake off the bound to road racing - Irony is a bitch
It's going to be fine Matt, we cannot save people from themselves...
Seriously though - WAKI - you're the man. Spot on. Always look forward to your comments....
p.s. If you are interested, the most surprising thing I found out whilst measuring rim width vs tyre width was that the rim width seems to have almost no effect on the resultant tyre width.
Minion DHF 2.5 dh on an ex729 = 55mm wide
Minion DHF 2.5 dh on a 5mm narrower DT swiss something or other = 55mm wide
Yes high profile rims are always vertically too stiff. Good for track bikes, not much else.
Your experience with the carbon rim highlights exactly why i love mavic.
Would write more (much more probably, i am prone to rambling) but funnily enough i must finish a wheel build before customer arrives in a few hours
Any hub with easy access to the pawls can be made quiet if you open it up and add liberal amounts of "groil" (grease plus oil) not enough oil and the pawls will become sticky and not engage reliably. too much oil and you will experience more noise, more wear and if your sealing isn't great it will all pour out. find the perfect ratio and your hub will be quiet and well lubed.
Also have you tried Halo Superdrive hubs? 120point engagement and very noisy, but if you do the old add groil trick they become extremely quiet. Very rapid pick up, clever pawl design means they really won't skip and the hubs appear to be made to good tolerances. Also excellent bearings. So far I am impressed with them, although time will tell if that remains the case.
I'm not sure who is responsible, but they don't want anyone getting injured in Ft. Ord. They could have a lot more exciting trails.
Toro Park is difficult for events because of accessibility. Pipeline/Airplane are great trails, but I doubt any insurance would cover it. It's too easy to get injured there, and I doubt the trails could stand heavy use.
@drivereight totally. It takes all types.. some people love fun parties like SOC. I have been to it enough times that the novelty has worn off, but to each his own! That being said, if I still lived near there, I would still go to race the DS. It's so fun... and top it off with some expo fun party and an air bag makes for a pretty good time... as long as if you are camping your neighbors don't suck Haha
But I guess the original Enduro was around before Enduro was a thing, so I'll let it fly ;-)
I know I had alotta beers last night but did I really pass out for a whole year??
But it sounds like the usual instinctive, primitive, "us vs. them" commentary in the mtb community.
Yeah, let's battle about Lyrca, helmets, fanny packs and other material goods, because that's definitely not the exact superficiality that the majority of this community stands opposed to. Oh, and let's back up our arguments with the race results of professionals we don't know and will never compare to.
The mtb community is already incredibly small. In many ways it's comparably tiny to some of the characters that compose the community. Ahem, that's directed at your attitude in the post, author. I bet you can probably come up with something better to say.
If we keep aimlessly bantering about useless topics, we'll never grow to be a noteworthy community. Why would anyone want to join a community that can't even respect its own members?
As seductive as his middle-school level rhetoric is and how cute his regurgitation from his 10-minute background-information search is, this post is laughable.
The author did entirely and exactly what he didn't mean to do. He sounds like the anti-spirit of mountain biking.
BOOOOOO.
Post something nicer next time that doesn't offend my eyes. I could go on, but hopefully you get the point.
BTW, for a nation that's so sure we're Number 1!!!, we sure are insecure. One little humorously-styled bit of criticism of one tiny facet of Our Great Nation, and we're all furiously upset. Pathetic.
How many people race? Modern mountain bikes are fun to ride. That is the reason why we ride the bikes we ride.
Enduro is a marketing word. It is used so often that it is becoming a swear word.
Go Enduro your self.
I remember when the term "Freeride" first came up when I was a kid back in France... we all made fun of it saying it was all marketing... bla bla... a new segment created to make money... bla bla... we've been doing that on our bikes forever, they just put a name on it... it's lame etc etc etc... well in the end it might be dead... but it brought a lot of people to the sport that wouldn't have if it was for DH or XC... and Rampage is still huge.
Now just come and check people's faces at a local "enduro" race here in BC... it's just a new (yes, for people here), fun format that brings everyone together... the XC guys have their climbs, the dh guys have their steep sections, everyone competes, there is no stress, more riding, beers at the bottom, more people building/maintaining trails: everyone is happy... yes there are people following trends, yes there are people dissing these. Some come with XC bikes, some with DH bikes, some with full-face, some with DJ lids, some with 650B, some with 26", some with fanny packs.... but yes it brings more pople to mtb and racing, they enjoy it and it is good for the sport so stop this crap.
Now, my argument is just that PEOPLE ARE HAVING FUN ON THEIR BIKE, who cares why?
Those are the parameters if it was up to me. And i understand that for the most part you NEED a sizeable mountain with the proper trails to run a true enduro that fulfills all of the above criteria. Obviously if you live in a certain region of the US, this may be geographically impossible.
p.s. hide your daughters europe. i'll be coming over sans-mtb in june to sell those pretty faces on my being a rich lawyer who wants to give them a shot at 'the land of opportunity' (my dong) when in reality i'm just a mtb-obsessed enduro loving marketing schmuck who eats big macs and nearly shits his lycra on a daily basis! no fresh herbs veggies or mountain air for them for the rest of their lives! muahahaha!!
Who's there?
"America"
America who?
Bill Baird, Dick Burleson and Terry Cunningham. Dirt biking wants their word back and I dare you to tell them no. But, hey, France-we'll give you the word "enduro" and quit wearing Lycra as soon as we stop laughing at what European men wear at the beach. As far as enduro at Sea Otter, well, we all knew that would be ridiculous.
When did mountain biking pick up as a sport in Europe? Where did it get invented?
Who is the egocentric, narcissistic clown who wrote this? I may need to unsubscribe if this is the caliber of articles that are posted. One word "misused" is worth a whole lame article? Here is a word you are undoubtedly familiar with "merde"!
End
You
Row
Is that like the opposite end of some boat that the toffs race in Oxford.
The opposite end than where the Cox sits?
Never thought of enduro in that way before.
Long live mountain biking.
You made my day bro - so true
BTW, this article, while attempting to be satirical, seems to have failed. Seems like anymore PB is trying to fill advertiser impression guarantees with pageviews/clicks though and they know fake controversy will get 'em there so expect to see more crap like this and pictorials of Emily Batty.
Anyways, who cares what someone thinks about what you ride, wear, etc. You want to rock a fanny pack? f*cking rock it son! Open face helmet with googles? Do it. What you look like, how you ride, etc. are of no importanc eto my day. Mountain biking is already close enough to the color coordinated fashion shit show that snowboarding has become, let's not let it go that last 1%.
Additionally I ride backwards up the hills so I can stay in the downhill mindset. (the enduro specific hub that allows me to do this is still in proto so don't look for it, you won't find it)
Matt Wrag I thought you had better things to do than get your lycra in such a twist.
ALSO; Sometimes, just sometimes, its how you ride and not the clothes that you wear that pigeonholes you as a any one sort of cyclist.
In exchange for getting "enduro" back we'll lend them a sense of humour... (I'd like to see them strap a fanny pack to that!)
Never heard of this, may be fun though. I'll have to check it out one day...
It's only been in the last year or so that us Brits have been using the word correctly, with UK "Enduros" such as the strathpuffer being very XC oriented affairs.
The fannypacks are a different issue altogether. There can be no excuses for that.
the whole enduro scene here made me puke when everything went crazy. that's what the marketing people brought, put a name on it & sell it even if you stole it. take it back Euro & your goofy mustaches too.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enduro
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Six_Days_Enduro
he ISDT was first held in 1913 at Carlisle, England. It has occurred annually, apart from interruptions due to World War I and World War II, at various locations throughout the world. The early events were a true test of machine, rider skill, and reliability. Held on the 'roads' of that era, today most of the routes are truly 'off road'. Originally titled the International Six Day Trial, in 1981 the FIM decided to update the name to International Six Days Enduro
Everyone on PB, and most everyone else in the modern recreational bike riding world - rides a bike that is massively over-produced for them. Marketing, hype, whatever... if you'll buy new equipment because it's now all about "flow" riding, they'll call it 'flow' and put an "f" on everything...
Give me a bike, call it whatever the hell you want - and point towards an awesome trail... if you've been riding long enough, at some point in your past you had an amazing time on a POS bike -- it was called something, and categorized as something, and you had a blast...
There's no such thing as the right definition of any term in biking except "ride"... ride what you like, like what you ride... cheer others for doing whatever the hell they want...
en·duro
Definition of ENDURO
: a long race (as for automobiles or motorcycles) stressing endurance rather than speed
Origin of ENDURO
endurance + -o (Italian or Spanish masculine noun ending)
First Known Use: 1935
So we need a know buzzword Matt, UpDown staged racing
Or call it MTB racing
Okay, lifts are awesome.
I've never used the word "enduro" in my life, nobody i know, or ride with has used that word in my company.
The two local bike shops i use don't use that word.
The only place i see the "enduro" word is on Pinkbike.
Shouldn't this "open letter" to addressed to pinkbike, instead of a Country of 350 million people?
Also, who the hell wears a fanny pack?
"Enduro??? Hahaha wtf is enduro??? Its called mountain bike , my parents where doing it 20 years ago. Get f*cked mtb industry"
- Andeu Lacondeguy
enduro-mtb.com/en/enduro-asia-mtb-malaysias-first-enduro-event
Agree its humor with base truths!
Still many great things, places, people and mtb in the US
But many things not so good really highlighted by social media, USA u doing this to yourself, not others.
Where r the US heros real people, Tomac, Cullinan, Giove, fav April Lawyer, Palmer, he must be thankful hes not fighting the ghey lycra wars these days, seriously cross dressing and riding a bike is not cool.
Unless female on appropriate XC or road bike!
Europe understands cycling except the UCI ah who's president or was?
dear europe:
1) you arent that cool
2) you never can finish what you start so we'll take it from here...
3) that ever-present air of moral superiority and resentment of American Awesomeness looks good on you, keep it up!
AYHSMB,
AMERICA!
Who cares what it's called? Just ride your bike, where you want, wear what you want, call it what you want.
Enjoy it regardless!
(He does not speak for all of 'Europe'!)
Dear Europe,
Yes you can have your ENDURO crap back! while we are at can we please have back:
Cocoa
tomatoes
potatoes
With love,
All of the Americas!
-greasy KFC Bullshit
-that stuff you put your hotdogs in, for some reason you call it bread
-all the chemical weapons you dumped in alle oceans across the world
-all the microphones your NATIONAL security agency installed al over europe
-as well as the thousends of soldiers you left all over the world.
If you want back more, to get even, just contact me.
RELAX!!! if you are taking this op-ed to heart you kinda missed the point of it, as well as what I wrote. RELAX!!!
what country are you from???
RELAX!
That aside, from my perspective the article is a thinly-veiled attempt to denigrate American (not just US) mountain bikers and espouses the supposed superiority of a European viewpoint. The fact that so many feel insulted is not a sign of overwhelming insecurity, but a sign that the "poke" is inappropriate. I lived in Australia for a long time and enjoy sarcasm. However, making fun of strangers is simply not funny. Matt may be a bit young and lack the maturity to recognize what is appropriate, but the editors at Pinkbike should have taken a closer look.
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Here is a broader definition of Xenophobia from Wikipedia: Xenophobia is the irrational or unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange.[1][2] It comes from the Greek words ÎľÎνος (xenos), meaning "strange," "foreigner," and φόβος (phobos), meaning "fear."[3] Xenophobia can manifest itself in many ways involving the relations and perceptions of an ingroup towards an outgroup, including a fear of losing identity, suspicion of its activities, aggression, and desire to eliminate its presence to secure a presumed purity.[4] Xenophobia can also be exhibited in the form of an "uncritical exaltation of another culture" in which a culture is ascribed "an unreal, stereotyped and exotic quality". As you can see, the irrahional hatred and fear can "manifest itself in the relations of an ingroup towards and outgroup.
It is painfully obvious that you can only see the world in black and white. I feel sorry for you in that regard. Xenophobia, like racism, is not a black or white proposition. You don't have to say that you hate people of all other races to be a racist. And, you don't have to say you hate all foreigners to be a xenophobe. Thus, I stand by my opinion that this post is borderline xenophobic for denigrating Americans.
Let's try a little thought game, shall we? Imagine one could quantify everything that is "America." Now, what incredibly tiny, fractional percentage of that is comprised of MTB-Enduro in any way, shape or form? 0.00001%? Perhaps something far smaller than that. Have you followed me so far? No? Ok, please reread what I just wrote. Good now? OK, now let's consider the definition of xenophobia: "The irrational fear or hatred of foreigners." (That's FEAR or HATRED of ALL foreigners, IdiotinSF, regardless of your personal, shifting and self-serving definition). Are you really so perversely stubborn, petty or stupid (or some toxic mix of all three) that you can't see that humorously criticizing 0.00001% of the US can't possibly constitute xenophobia? Unfortunately, it would appear the answer is "yes," though I would believe your uninformed, uncurious American colleagues think you're "really smart."
Also, calling you a clown or, say, a dumbf*ck is not mutually exclusive with also making a substantive argument. Then again, I shouldn't expect someone of your hyper-sensitivity and obvious intellectual limitations to grasp that. Further, you write things like, "They don't deserve you, but then again I don't believe anyone does," and then try to take the moral high-road because you didn't swear. Just more evidence of your ready sense of victimhood and inability to think clearly.
But seriously, if you have such dainty sensibilities that you're deeply hurt by being called a clown, maybe you should refrain from commenting on the internets. A crude vulgarity is the coin of the realm.
Now, please do go f*ck off.
You can kiss my #$%. Not on z left side and not on z right side. BUT RIGHT IN Z MIDDLE!
'Uh yes there is'
We wouldn't have what we now call bikes if it weren't for the Germans (at least one German).
Heard that one so many times.
There wouldn't even be "USA" (as you kow it) if it weren't for the Europeans, so, move on.