14 Bike Checks - Australian DH National Round 2, Thredbo

Feb 7, 2015
by Paul Aston  

We recently did a bike check for Round 1 of the Australian Nationals but most of the athletes were piloting 160mm bikes specced for DH racing. Round 2 at Thredbo and everyone is back on their full-on race rigs. SRAM are showing their dominance down-under with eleven from fourteen people riding Rockshox and SRAM heavy builds. Maxxis were winning the tire battle with eight riders, three on Schwalbe, two on Specialized's own rubber and one set of unknowns. Make sure to check out the full gallery at the bottom of the page.

Andrew Crimmins and his carbon Kona Operator
Plenty of people out today with custom name badges on their bikes, Andrew Crimmins is the first on his carbon Kona Operator.


Aiden Varley and his Giant Glory
  Aiden Varley and his standard-looking 2015 Giant Glory.


Ben Dengate and his anodized blue Bilt
Props for Ben Dengates haircut and his anodized blue Bilt. His team-mate Brendan Moon was one of the few riding a proper DH bike at Round 1.


Brent Smith and his Pivot Phoenix
  Brent Smith and his Pivot Phoenix.


Colleen Boyes and her alloy Mondraker Summum
I'm guessing that Waffles is Colleen Boyes nickname, plus the only rider rocking the flat pedals?


David Mcmillan and his carbon Specialized Demo
Is this a custom 7-speed cluster on David Mcmillan's Specialized Demo?


Dean Lucas and his Devinci Wilson
Dean Lucas has clearly been putting in the hours on his Devinci Wilson.


Ellie Wale and her Giant Glory
Ellie Wale took the pun right out of my mouth.


Graeme Mudd and his carbon Santa Cruz V10
Graeme Mudd knows where to get his suspension tuned, Nigels Supension Dynamics are the go-to service centre in Aus.


Kye Hore and his Banshee Legend
  Kye Hore dominates his Banshee Legend and wins the moustache competition hands down.


Sarah Booth and her alloy Kona Operator
  Sarah Booth and her alloy Kona Operator


Tegan Molloy and her Kona carbon Operator
Tegan Molloy seems to have downgraded her wheelset and no longer has her cool signature graphics since Round One


Troy Brosnan and his Specialized Demo 8

After a second place at last weeks Rockshox Enduro Challenge, Troy Brosnan is back onboard his Specialized Demo 8. Some interesting graphics on his Boxxer to commemorate his win at Fort William last year



Check out the additional high-res images and close-ups in the gallery




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116 Comments
  • 161 8
 haters kona hate...
  • 25 103
flag mnorris122 (Feb 7, 2015 at 19:41) (Below Threshold)
 The riders will be hating when they're on their face because of a snapped frame
  • 15 90
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 7, 2015 at 23:09) (Below Threshold)
 ^agree , dont know about the new ones but the old ones snap like dead treee branches, not to mention they dont put any money into theyre pivot system at all , #carbondontmeanitsgood
  • 35 6
 Stop trolling
  • 12 80
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 8, 2015 at 0:25) (Below Threshold)
 its not trolling , its fact
  • 35 5
 Fact according to what? Your blatantly incorrect assumption?
  • 23 3
 Every company has quality control issues. Do you really think they would have kept investing their time, money, and souls into launching a whole new product line without being 100% sure that they were shipping out quality product? Grow up
  • 5 3
 i see what you did there Big Grin
  • 4 1
 did Troy still have TLD pants?
  • 6 42
flag mnorris122 (Feb 8, 2015 at 5:39) (Below Threshold)
 Just type "broken kona" into google, you'll see
  • 70 2
 Just type "rainbow unicorn sex" into Google, you'll see...
  • 6 3
 Just type "broken dartmoor" into google, you'll see...
  • 69 3
 just type ''broken condom'' into google, you'll see...
  • 24 1
 I have hucked the shit out of my kona and she is still going strong. Luck? No. Good bike? Yes.
  • 3 1
 @adidasss yeah, hes still wearing his old TLD kits when hes racing.
  • 5 1
 I knew mom was lying to me.
  • 35 0
 Any manufacturer that can take a 76ft drop from aggy is good in my book.
  • 3 1
 Check my profile, I have hit decent drops on a "snap machine!"
  • 2 16
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 8, 2015 at 10:41) (Below Threshold)
 ive hit the m-series drop at cypress , my frame cracked in 3 places and it is handmade , its luck of the draw but i still wouldnt buy one , pivot system over weight anyday .
  • 11 0
 Guess you missed the 70 foot drop during Rampage done on one hey?
  • 1 23
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 8, 2015 at 11:07) (Below Threshold)
 gah no one is listening to what i actually said
  • 15 1
 I thought about ripping into you about your ignorant comment and use of a hash tag in a comment which you probably stole from someone else in a forum ; But you are 14 and know everything right now so I figured there was no point.
  • 5 1
 That Kona is probably not the last bike you are going to break. Everything breaks. Especially when you are going to be riding like a aspiring Rampage rider. And you are probably going to be more inclined to find "lemon" defects in products than riders who are not "rapidly" advancing their skill sets, because they got the technique figured out already. But hopefully it is just the bike that breaks and not you. That being said, try having as much warranty on the products you choose as possible. The more warranty a company has on a product the better the product to begin with IMO.
  • 1 1
 He was saying he wasn't sure about the new ones, Just forget about all this kona malarky. If you enjoy what you ride. Ride it. If others don't enjoy what you ride they ain't even worth your roost.
  • 3 33
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 8, 2015 at 14:43) (Below Threshold)
 15* worked at a shop for 2 years , now am sponsored by it and still vollunteer @brockfisher05 , so yea i dont know everything but i know a hell of alot .as i said anyone who would spend the amount of money on the carbon operater is doing it becasue of aggy not becasue of what a good bike it is.

if you like your bike thats cool im just sayin you might have a lil more fun on something with a dw link per say....
  • 3 23
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 8, 2015 at 14:45) (Below Threshold)
 #imadethehastagmyself
  • 5 2
 A good buddy of mine cracked 2 carbon operator frames last summer riding whistler bike park. He couldn't ride most of the summer because he had to wait for replacement Kona frames. They look really nice though.
  • 5 1
 Didn't even know carbon could "crack" like alloy
  • 6 2
 All I know is my Kona is tough as fuck.
  • 2 15
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 8, 2015 at 21:24) (Below Threshold)
 yes they LOOK really nice
  • 3 7
flag Bird-Man FL (Feb 9, 2015 at 12:59) (Below Threshold)
 WOW PB users are a rank bunch sometimes, give the poor kid a break ( wuzuojosh) everything breaks I agree, I only know 2 guys with the carbon operator and they both broke within a month....the first one at bromont snapped the headtube clean off ( nosed into backside of a landing) and the other the shock mounts in the front triangle snapped (maybe operaters fault mabe owners fault) still broke. however they both were very happy with the warrenty and the time it took to have kona replace their frames.....
  • 6 1
 I tried to break a kona and it broke me! Tough as shit
  • 93 10
 Still want to know bar widths, stem lengths, spring weights, tire widths, and all that jazz. Top end bikes all rock, but setup effects how they ride the most.
  • 213 9
 Here you go: Wide, Short, at least 50lbs heavier than what a normal person would have, between 2.35 and 2.5, Miles Davis. Top end Bikes all rock but skill effects hoy they are ridden the most.
  • 46 0
 No soup for you!
  • 55 6
 But Troy Brosnan has no carbon rims - the superior material! The science, why shall he not praise the science! How dare he? Increased centrifugal force applies unwanted prressure on his tyres from the insie resulting in non-optimal tyre profile... what?! ONly 25mm internal width on the rims?! Heis wheels are not optimal, they are not superior!!!
  • 20 0
 waki but his rims have the "on fire without a tire" steeze
  • 3 2
 Skill effects how the pro rides. By his they ride I meant how the bike feels.
  • 3 0
 Love it Diego-B
  • 2 1
 Suspension setup: super stiff.
  • 1 24
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 7, 2015 at 23:11) (Below Threshold)
 carbon rims are deffinately better , more of a one rsce deal tho instead of something he can not worry about every week... im sure in the wc season hell have carbon and his bike will be a fair bit different ... its early season/off season and he probly dosnt have a full time mechanic as he does in the summer ....
  • 13 1
 I agree with @taletotell. This isn't a bike check, its a "pros posing with their bikes photo feature". Every photo should have a run down of everything that can be found out about the bike. I want to know what all the components are. What type and size of the rotors, the type of brake pad, the reach of their levers - and that's just the braking system. It's interesting that the Avid riders essentially created the Code R's years before they were available by mixing the Elixir levers with the Code calipers to shave grams. Maybe get a word from the bike's mech on what's special or what they do different for the rider, how their suspension is set up. Every top rider has their own quirks and no two are the same.
  • 4 0
 Am I the only one that noticed the Stans Flow rims on at least 3 bikes? I wonder how they hold up to a real beating.
I do remember reading about someone running them at Rampage so maybe that says enough. Correct me if I'm wrong.
  • 2 0
 Logan B ran them on his 27.5 KHS at the Rampage. If they can take a few of those drops Im sure they can take a season of pounding DH runs. No one wants to risk a wheel explosion there. www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Pro-Bike-Check-Logan-Binggelis-KHS-DH650b,6336/Slideshow,0/sspomer,2
  • 1 0
 He crashed his last Rampage sending the oakley sender.
  • 1 0
 stans flows took the rainbow stripes and a silver in the w champs this year. guess they hold up all right.
  • 37 9
 Troy's Demo 8 is porn on two wheels
  • 20 2
 Did Troys balls drop this yr or is he getting nutrition tips from Rennie
  • 5 1
 starting to get beef on those arms, no more roadie body for Troy.
  • 3 18
flag hollowing2000 (Feb 8, 2015 at 7:54) (Below Threshold)
 Getting bigger like Beiber.
  • 9 0
 It's not unknown for the tyres, just some Maxxis with a bit of black sharpie Smile

Guess the UR team still doesn't have an official tyre sponsor...
  • 14 0
 The shirt says "Kenda." I guess the nevergrips weren't cutting it.
  • 1 11
flag wuzupjosh (Feb 7, 2015 at 23:11) (Below Threshold)
 nexcavator is life
  • 7 0
 "Is this a custom 7-speed cluster on David Mcmillan's Specialized Demo?"
Why nope? All 2015 Demos come with 7sp. Except the lower end ones are 11-24 and no XD driver.
  • 2 0
 And they've got the 9-speed XO shifter and derailleur with the 7cog-custom-setup since the first s-works demo (replica) in 2013.
  • 8 0
 Why does the spring on the Pivot look massive?
  • 40 0
 he took it off his mazda?
  • 4 0
 Hahaha, maybe he did.
  • 9 0
 Where's Fearon?
  • 1 0
 North America pre-season training
  • 8 3
 According to bike radar 26's are the fastest on descents.
www.bikeradar.com/mtb/gear/article/how-does-mountain-bike-wheel-size-really-affect-performance-43481

How many are still running 26's?
  • 6 2
 that result was for an XC circuit, on XC bikes, ridden by XC riders. This is DH race, on DH bikes, ridden by DH riders. The results of that test might not be applicable to this race.
  • 7 1
 It probably depends in the dh course. The contact patch for all tire sizes is the same for any given tire pressure. 26's have a fatter oval patch while 29s have a long n narrow one. If the course is steep and has tight unbermed corners where you need max braking traction, a 26 will allow you to brake later into the corner. It'll get traction better on an uneven surface. If the course is smooth n wide where the obstacles are all small enough to steamroll over without braking, a 29 or 33'er would be fastest.
  • 8 3
 We must wait until some Germans do a research in that subject to confirm the results, to be sure that everything was thought through. We need to eliminate potential bias.
  • 7 5
 What British research isn't good enough? They invented...,ahh... Someone's going to have to help me..., all I can think of is whiskey right now.
  • 14 5
 @fatenduro
The Top 10 British inventions are

Telephone
Television
Jet engine
Steam engine
Light bulb
Electric motor
Cats eyes
Bicycle
ATM/cashpoint machine
Hypodermic syringe

Better luck next time old chap
  • 19 1
 Ah! And they invented Canada. How could I have missed that!
  • 3 1
 Hungarians and scientists of Hungarian origin received a Nobel Prize on more than 20 occasions, Hungarian inventions and inventors include the safety match (János Irinyi), Dynamo (Ányos Jedlik), the Ford Model T (József Galamb), the ballpoint pen (László Bíró), Vitamin-C (Albert Szent-Györgyi), the hydrogen and atomic bomb (Ede Teller), the binocular (József Petzvál), digital computing (János Neumann), Helicopter (Oszkár Asbóth) and Electric locomotive (Kálmán Kandó) just to mention only the most famous creations.
  • 11 3
 Brits also discovered worldwide known German lack of sense of humor. Those posts, like many of my latest observations Make me believe that it does not exist in reality, at least it is not any worse than one in Britain. Monthy Python was not a reflection of society it comes from, rather a desperate cry of natural evolution to put things straight... I was laughing at German accuracy damn it, and you felt that I am attacking British scientific heritage - go sit under a tree, maybe an apple will fall on your head! Beans with bacon and toast with Jam hurray!
  • 2 0
 Perhaps we need some Hungarian rider to discover the formula used by motocross. Big wheel up front for rollover and smaller fat wheel out back for traction.
  • 2 0
 you won't believe it, but there are several riders in hungary use a 26 wheel up front and a 24 out back for the same reasons
  • 3 0
 I know a guy who rides DH with 24" front and back but he's a midget!
  • 5 0
 Is it just my monitor,or is there a giant whomping flat spot on the rear wheel of Andrews Kona?
  • 1 0
 I was scrolling the comments to see if anyone else noticed that. I thought my eyes were fooling me. Looks pretty flat to me!!!
  • 1 0
 Yep I agree.
  • 2 0
 Wow. I do this every time there is a bike check... Fox tended to show up the most in the past... but this time weve got; 11-RS, 1-Fox, 1-Marz, 1-BOS. I guess it's not the entire field, but an interesting sample nonetheless.
  • 1 0
 I am not surprised, if a Sram cassette can be a whopping MSRP: $425, I am shure they can be the most generous sponsors of the riders.
  • 1 0
 the issue is SRAM sponsorship. all or nothing there, so you are really unlikely to get shimano rockshox other than in rare cases... only the privateers choose what they want to ride, the rest are just told what!
  • 6 2
 Fackin oath!! Troy's bike is cock snot enducing!!!
  • 4 0
 Graeme Mudd needs a world cup ride. Absolute shredder.
  • 2 0
 I think its pretty interesting, that most of them are not running the 2015 top models( pivot, devinci, specialized, kona....)
  • 2 0
 It's because even when our dollar was strong, the Australian distributors bent us over backwards and added ridiculous mark ups. I hate to think what 2016 prices will be, but hopefully the emergence of YT in Aus markets will change how things work.
  • 4 0
 Remy running Maxxis tyres with blacked out logo not Kenda
  • 3 0
 All I want to know is, where is Craig Kirkpatrick???
  • 7 0
 or Connor?
  • 1 0
 He's on the west coast I assume prepping for some of the national events in the states??
  • 2 0
 those new boxxer decals make them look some kind of "bend" or something... Big Grin
  • 1 0
 something's wrong with the pivot...isn't the 2015 frame with a different shock mount? isn't the vertica shock mount frame from 2011?
  • 4 1
 No sam hill again?
  • 4 2
 Sam is all Enduro tight now haha
  • 2 0
 only one using fox fork! seems shox rocks!
  • 1 0
 Troy still wearing TLD pants? How dare he do such a thing.
  • 1 0
 because special ed has no long dh pants until now?
  • 2 0
 Where is Jack Moir??
  • 1 0
 sic as Mondraker Summun, go gurl
  • 1 0
 Kye's moustache. Nuff said.
  • 1 0
 best bike too
  • 1 0
 Only thing specific......frame and fork..the rest could and would fit
  • 1 0
 Clips for the win in aus by the look of it.
  • 1 0
 first bike as warped rear rim
  • 1 0
 Kye Hore with the dirtiest Moustache! Keep you girlfriends away.
  • 1 0
 Untuck your jersey, it's not the 1950s
  • 2 1
 SAM HILL
  • 1 1
 jak zawsze komentarze na różowym rowerze nie zawodzą xD
  • 2 4
 I find it amazing that so many bikes,giant,pivot,mondraker even the banshee are essentially modern Sunday's! That bike from 05 really was well ahead of the game.
  • 3 1
 Wasn't the giant maestro link available on the giant range before 2005?
  • 1 0
 The wilson is a very similar design to the early sun dh bikes but i doubt very much that their comparable. We all know the difference a few mil here and the odd degree there can make. No doubting the sunday though. I still see a few about
  • 1 0
 Nuh Clint
  • 1 3
 the west aussies are gonna show were back !!!
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