WTB Valcon Carbon Saddle Review

May 9, 2011
by Mike Levy  



WTB Valcon Carbon Saddle



What is it: WTB's saddle lineup is split into three distinct categories: recreation, performance and racing, with the carbon railed Valcon belonging to the latter. This, the lightest Valcon, also sports a carbon composite shell that further cuts weight, with final figure being an impressive 165 grams. That's light, but comfort should be the first priority when choosing a saddle - how will the airy Valcon Carbon treat my behind after some substantial early season epics? There are three versions of the Valcon, starting at $90 USD for the chromoly railed Pro model (270 grams) and topping out with the Cross Country racing inspired $250 USD Valcon Carbon tested here.


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WTB's Valcon Carbon is a lightweight, carbon railed saddle that is built for cross-country use.

Valcom Carbon details:

- Intended use: Road/cross-country
- Carbon rails
- Carbon composite shell
- Microfiber cover
- 133mm wide x 274mm long
- Color: black
- Weight: 165 grams
- MSRP $250 USD


The details:Just in case the $250 USD MSRP didn't give it away, the Valcon Carbon sits right at the top of WTB's saddle lineup (along with their other carbon railed saddles). There is a good amount of technology packed into the Valcon, with the most obvious being its carbon saddle rails. A close look reveals that they are not round as you would expect to see, but actually have an oval profile that gives them more strength without needing to add extra material. Gradient marks are provided as well to make fore and aft adjustments easier. The Valcon Carbon is a no holds barred racing saddle, and as such it has been built around WTB's carbon composite shell - the lightest and stiffest of the three shell options in their range. The center section of the shell features a relief, named the LuxZone, that WTB says helps to relieve soft tissue pressure where it matters most. It is all topped off with their thin, but dense, DNA padding and an easy to clean microfiber cover. All that adds up to a 165 gram saddle that is most certainly not for the causal rider.

It's light and is made of carbon, but that isn't enough to make any saddle a winner if it isn't comfortable. Your seat is by far the most important of the three contact points between yourself and your bike, and this is especially true if you spend a lot of time in the saddle. And people who spend a lot of time in the saddle are exactly who the Valcon Carbon is aimed at. Not only is it quite firm, but it also uses a flatter and longer profile (all of WTB's tend to be flatter than most) than many other saddles on the market, with it measuring up at 133mm wide and 274mm long.


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The Valcon Carbon gets its name from its carbon fiber rails (top) and carbon composite shell. The saddle rails are actually a one piece unit (bottom left) that come together at the saddle's nose. The LuxZone is a cutaway in the saddle's shell (bottom right) that relieves pressure to those sensitive soft tissue areas.


Performance: When talking about gear, it doesn't get any more personal than bike seats - just because someone finds a particular seat comfortable doesn't mean that everyone else will as well. Having said that, there are certainly saddles that are aimed for certain types of riders, and the Valcon Carbon is one of them. The firm shell and dense padding don't coddle your behind like a softer and more forgiving saddle would on shorter spins, but you also don't have that same surplus padding to sink into and create pressure where you don't want it during long rides. Yes, contrary to many rider's beliefs, having too much padding can be a very bad thing. The Valcon's flat shape and firm feel have been deigned to administer saddle pressure in the only place where your body can handle it - the sit bones. Whether or not your sit bones are in the right place, it varies from person to person, is what will make or break this saddle for you. After years spent on more rounded saddles I've found that the Valcon's flat profile has surprisingly suited me quite well, and that it doesn't require a downward saddle angle to keep the nose from making my twig and berries numb, unlike other saddles that I've spent time on recently. The neutral position on the Valcon is quite comfortable, but the nose and tail section are also usable as well when the trail demands it.

The microfiber cover has proven itself to be resilient to tearing, despite the saddles corner's meeting up with the ground on more than a few occasions during our very wet and slippery Spring riding season. While the cover has proven to be tough, the white WTB graphics quickly lost their luster after a few rides and have continued to fade from my shorts constantly rubbing on them during pedaling. Multiple furrows have shown up in the saddle's cover along both sides after about 30 hours of use. The carbon rails have demonstrated, without a doubt in my mind, that they are up to the task of cross-country use, despite some very hard use that WTB would most likely say that the Valcon Carbon wasn't designed for.


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The Valcon Carbon is a comfortable perch for those who have a seasoned rear end, but as advertised, it isn't an ideal option for casual riders.


Pinkbike's take: Is a $250 USD, carbon railed saddle a reasonable option for most riders? There is no arguing that it is spectacularly light and comfortable for my behind, but the answer is that it is most certainly not. There will surely be riders who decide on the Valcon Carbon based on those two facts, but a more realistic option, and one that I would wholly recommend to cross-country and all-mountain riders, would be the $90 USD Pro version. It uses the same shape, the LuxZone cutaway and the firm DNA padding, in a more reasonably priced package that will appeal to a broader range of riders. Do keep in mind that saddle preference is very personal - if you are considering the Valcon, or any other saddle, have your shop install it on your bike for a test fit before you head out into the bush. This is especially important if you are considering pulling the trigger on the Valcon Carbon.


Check out the WTB website to see their entire lineup.

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37 Comments
  • 23 0
 Quality photoshpping on the last pic there Wink

I'm liking PB reviews alot more now, they are giving reasonable advice rather than simply marketing something, so it seems.
  • 3 14
flag pierszdan (May 9, 2011 at 0:28) (Below Threshold)
 that wasnt photoshopped. thats what happens to dark features out of focus against a light background.
  • 3 0
 Yeah, no, it was photoshopped and then blurred.
  • 3 1
 Of course it was photoshopped. And baddly at that. Yeah the feature is out of focus but that doesn't explain why the feature is cut off at so many places Big Grin
  • 3 0
 you can tell it was photoshopped look at all the "natural" white lol
  • 5 1
 $250, pfffftttt, f*ck that....
  • 1 4
 250 for the seat alone? Im pretty sure you can get a seat post and a Pivotal seat that light for under 50 bucks
  • 3 1
 Yeah, and you can get a Geo metro for $100 bucks, but when youre on the market for a ferrari, that doesnt matter much.
  • 10 2
 Complete waste of money from a pragmatic point of view. So obviously roadies are going to buy them in droves.
  • 13 2
 $250 for a SADDLE? what the hell is wrong with the world?!
  • 6 0
 my first mountain bike cost £250...
  • 1 0
 or you could get an sdg i fly saddle with the same weight for only $90
  • 2 1
 Classic pinkbike kids right here: "If I don't want it or if I can't afford it, IT'S A STUPID PRODUCT! RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE."
  • 3 2
 Classic expensive bike part apologist: "The disposable income falling out of my ass has completely blinded me, I can no longer differentiate the actually useful parts from the useless wastes of money!"
  • 2 0
 Aww sweetie, I'm flattered you went through the trouble of making up stuff to insult me. Next time a simple "a*shole" or something will suffice.
  • 1 2
 Yep, pretty much what I expected - nothing to respond with, so you pull out the completely-out-of-place condescension. Too bad nobody's buying it.
  • 1 0
 My "condescension" is based on what people are actually saying. Yours however was based on nothing I've said or done, and is just a poor attempt at a passive aggressive insult for no reason whatsoever. There's nothing to respond to buddy-o-pal, other than to say your ridiculous assumptions and insults are pointless, which I in effect did already.
  • 1 1
 Your "condescension" is "completely out of place" and "hinges on the premise that only your opinion is correct", and my response was based exactly on that fact. It's hard to see the truth when your head is stuck so far up your own ass, but you can give it a try anyway. Acting like an elitist cockknob may get you far in the road bike world, but it won't help you win any arguments.
  • 1 0
 1. People are saying exactly what I said. 2. Therefore what I said is perfectly in line and in place. 3. I never implied or stated only my opinion is correct. Why you're flipping out like this, insulting me, and making these inane assumptions I just don't understand, not to mention it's totally uncalled for.
  • 2 1
 could you two shut the hell up? you're clogging up my news feed
  • 2 2
 Cry me a river, both of you.
  • 3 0
 I've got the regular version. One of the most comfortable saddles I've ever ridden, and about $120 CDN. It's not that much heavier than this carbon version. I recommend the cheaper one. After a crash, you won't be crying a loudly!
  • 5 1
 Solid review. I can't see the point of a railed saddle any more though, I-beam is just so good.
  • 5 0
 For those of us who dislike I beam. I myself can't stand it
  • 1 0
 The different I-beam saddle's shape doesn't always work for people. Most telescoping posts don't offer an I-beam option either (KS and Gravity Dropper being the two that do).
  • 2 0
 if silverado's came on i-beam posts, i would easily buy one, but saying that at sea otter there was the adapter so you could put railed seats on i-beam post but i'm not sure if you can buy it yet!
  • 2 1
 Valid points about gravity droppers and lack of selection. I have an I-fly on my downhill bike, which for my purpose is utterly perfect, however theres obviously those who'd rather have railed seats and may have legitimate reasons.

Edit: Also to seraph, who continually negatively props me because of an argument we had over fsa, grow up a little. Unless you coincidentally are opposed to every opinion I have it just makes you look immature to automatically be like this.
  • 1 0
 Like I said above, its completely personal preference. Its like someone telling someone else that fox is better than rockshox or vice versa, and someone else telling that person they are wrong. Its just what the rider thinks. Anyways, enough chit chat, see yea on the trails!
  • 2 0
 I got a carbon saddle off eBay for $75. It has no padding at all and weights only 65 grams. That thing hurts so bad that i had to swap back with my old 190gr Funn lite.. But still pretty light..
  • 1 1
 this saddle is sick and all but if you are in the market for a high end race saddle you might as well go with the carbon silverado, that saddle i feel is more of a full on race saddle and at the price this WTBs carbon saddles are marketed towards racers and wight weneys (my self being both). feather more these saddles are incredibly strong i'm running a carbon silverado on my 951 with a layed back master peace and i have came down on my saddle way too many times HARD, and there's no sines of stress at all.
  • 1 0
 P.S to all you i-fly-ers out there your i-fly dus not weigh less then a carbon silverado and boy O boy dus the silverado feel better on my fat ass.
  • 1 0
 Why spend all that money designing a saddle like this and put a logo in a position that will wear off.
  • 2 1
 I'd rather get the selle italia slr kit fibra which is have the price and only 135g
  • 1 0
 the only upside I can see is if WTB keep adding top-tier carbon saddles maybe the devo and silverado will go down in price
  • 3 1
 My SDG i Fly saddle already weighs 165 grams, it also cost way less.
  • 1 0
 its more of a DH/road race saddle, considering how little padding they have. Love mine to death though, seeing as I hardly ever sit on it.
  • 2 3
 That weight isn't impressive.







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