First Look: Kali Shiva Prototype Helmet - Taipei Show

 I'm kind of regretting buying an all white Remedy now haha.. Might have to spray bomb it...

 Do it. Murdered out is the tightest color scheme. I'm a fan of those cone-shaped pads. Def. a step up from the usual flat foam padding in terms of cushioning impacts.

 If that helps I've been reading some full face helmet teesting lately in a german magazine (they didn't make the test themselves but outsourced it to local experts like TüV or something). The Kali and the Bell were not in the test, but best was considered the Specialized, then quite similar results for TLD D3 and Fox Rampage, then Giro Remedy. I think there was the other Kali helmet (the one currently on the market) which obtained one of the least good results mostly cause of too flexy chinguard.
Helmets have been tested according to MTB criteria AND MX criteria.
If that helps... Don't think I still have the pages, I could otherwise scan it for interested people (yeah it's in german but graphics are graphics and grades are grades!)

 Test from german Freeride magazine is linked as free PDF from here, see top right: www.freeride-magazine.com/test/pdf/helmtest/22/01/2013

 One of my friends that I ride with is at university for kinesology, and just spent close to 4 months doing exactly this. The findings are still in the early stages, but there will be some interesting data coming out of the study... The one thing that I can say about it is that fit is by far the most important thing to look for in a helmet.

 How about Urge helmets....

 if you actually look at the tests required by each, the astm downhill certification, the DOT requirements, and the snell foundation standards all require similar impact tests; astm DH and snell both dictate no more than 300g's from a 2m drop onto a flat anvil. The main difference is that the motocross helmets are required to meet other criteria such as penetration tests and faceguard testing.

I'm sick of this fear-mongering about how motocross helmets are dangerous.

 I am not saying DOT certified helmets are not safe. Read my comment and understand it

I just remember big article about DOT certified helmets being not suitable for mountain biking, where designer from Kali was saying that they do not certify mtb helmets, as DOT certification uses different tests and DOT certified helmets are not good in absorbing impact, that is typical on mountain biking

And they suddenly change the view.
Smells pure marketing for me
I like this helmet and I May buy it - it's just the whole situation that is funny for me.

 I know what you're saying.

But that article was 99% marketing BS. I don't recall it citing any facts about impact testing or standards whatsoever.

 I have no doubt that a DOT helmet would protect you on an MTB, it just might not be such a 'comfy' experience. Either way, you guys are all sensible enough to wear one. That's most important Now lets go ride!

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 And you are sponsored by them I see from your profile.

 Shameless plug right there eh? He may well be an incredible engineer and be able to make some incredibly safe helmets, but honestly there is not a worse looking helmet on the market right now. Or ever before. The actual shells of all Kali's helmets are bulbous and gross. The graphics are even more appalling. What are all these helmet manufacturers thinking? The only "good looking" full face bicycle helmets are the D3, the new Rampage, and the older v3r(obviously same shell as the dot v3). The new Bell isn't too bad either. And I would be much more willing to trust my brains in one of TLD, Fox, or Bell's helmets way before I do Kali. I mean come on? How many years of experience do said brands have making moto lids? Not only moto lids, but the best in the biz. How many years has Kali been around? Have any championships been won by a rider wearing a Kali? Based on looks alone I would forgo the Kali, but how you can choose not to go with a much more established brand is beyond me.

 I am sponsored by Kali, but anyone who knows me knows that I don't rep companies because they hook me up. I shoot down sponsorship opportunities all the time. Its not about getting free shit, I work in the industry, I already have hookups. I am all about supporting companies that I feel passionate about, that make the sport bigger and better, and that share the same goals as I do. Kali does one thing amazingly well and that is build safe helmets. There is plenty of data to back that up Kali is a pretty young company, they are learning as they go. I would never hesitate to point out their flaws, nor their greatness of course. . In fact, let me bash on my own sponsor right here. Nothing held back:

1. Kali's graphics are f*cking awful. They have definitely improved, but they have a long way to go. I hope that they end up with a designer like Richard Vye soon! But if looks are your number one concern, then I worry about you. I relay the feedback to them often, and make suggestions, but there is only so much I can do. Hopefully this thread will let them know what the people want!

2. Fit/Shape. One of the difficulties of making a safe helmet is shape. Some helmets are thinner in the forehead and rear sides, this is to make the helmet look more natural. Unfortunately, those parts of the head stick out and are most prone to impact. Kali puts safety before look there, but as you can see, they are getting more and more streamline as their technology develops. Ugly, sometimes, but safe.

3. Fit: Thank god they are better now, but for a while, fit was very inconsistent between different helmets. Im a large durgana, and a medium avatar, and some of the half shells dont even fit me. Like I said, much better now. Just pop one on your head before buying and you wont have any problems!

Now, I could list 5603284324045 things I love about them, but hey, this is pinkbike, people only care about the shit talking, so enjoy!

 you must be some great bad ass

 I see what you did there